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  1. airdupont

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    He seems to be using a blacked out racket in Madrid.
     
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  2. Jmon99

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    Hmm, that's true. I watched a video of him practising, and judging by the racket's headshape I'd say it's either a Head Radical or a Graphene Speed. I may be wrong though :-?
     
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  3. THESEXPISTOL

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    You're right.

    Maybe he's back to his majors (racquets), or he was already using them under the dunlop paintjob and now his contract reached the end.

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  4. Power Player

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    Looks like the pt965 with tecnifibre paint rubbed off.
     
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  5. THESEXPISTOL

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    Power Player this is an old picture from the 2010 USOPEN.
     
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    Saw the match "in situ" yesterday and his stick looks like a Head mid.

    Funny his racquet bag is still a Dunlop...
     
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  8. THESEXPISTOL

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    Same leadtape placement of his majors. Maybe he's back with them.

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  9. Power Player

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    I still think he is using the same stick he always has though - the PT965
     
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  10. THESEXPISTOL

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    I still that too. But i not sure about what he used under the Dunlop paintjob in these recent years.
     
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  11. ART ART

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    It's the old Major/Tecnifibre racket that he used in the last years, before the Dunlop ...
     
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  12. Power Player

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    Yes.

    Thank you.
     
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    What shoes is he wearing right now?
    During the Raonic match, it looks like there's lots of green in them.....or is hat just my tv?
     
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  14. cluckcluck

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    Is that Lux 4g?
     
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  15. THESEXPISTOL

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    Nop. Old reliable Luxilon Original 1.30mm
     
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  16. dgoran

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    didn't one of the posters who lives in Houston confirm that Verdasco racquet looked identical to 315ltd. He saw it up close since his buddy was a stringer at Houston clay court championship where Verdasco was just few weeks ago
     
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  17. vsbabolat

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    Yes.......
     
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  18. ProStringing

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    Photos of Fernando's rackets

    Here are a few photos of Fernando's rackets taken in June 2012.

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    If anyone has any queries on his stringing requirements, then let me know.

    ProStringing
     
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  19. robbo1970

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    Nice PJ. The real 300 has a matt finish.

    Has anyone confirmed what is underneath?
     
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  20. vsbabolat

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    Thats definitely not a Dunlop 300. Looks like Dunlop copied his Major/Tecnifibre frame.
     
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  21. robbo1970

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    The throat angle sections are different too, just like the pj.

    The Almagro 500T pj is wrong too. His has a standard 500 pj. You would think if the sponsors wanted buyers to think the pro's used a particular model they would at least get the pj's right lol.
     
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  22. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I'm pretty sure 95% of the public can't tell the difference between the standard and tour pj from a distance...
     
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  23. Power Player

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    LOL..exactly.

    Verdasco's racquet is the Tec 315 16 mains. We can't verify if the layup is the same, but everything else says it is. It's the Major/Bullitt Tec pro stock frame.
     
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  24. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Seriously, I think some people invest WAY too much into the lives and happenings of these pros.

    Can you tell the difference between the two by looking at the thumbnails of the racquets on TW? That's effectively what you're looking at if you were at the live event or on TV. Even worse, the racquets are moving...
     
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  25. Power Player

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    Before I joined this forum I didnt even know what racquet anyone used. Literally no current players.
     
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  26. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Wasn't life much simpler back then? Now, people can't use Pro Staffs without wearing Vapors... :)
     
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  27. robbo1970

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    I agree totally. My point was just that if a manufacturer was going to pretend that a pro used their racket, they would at least go to the effort of getting the paint job right.
     
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  28. topspin18

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    What tension was he using then and is that a ATW pattern that was strung?
     
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    In the first pic on the stringer, do you see the location of that tie off hole? It is exactly the same as the tec 315. I believe this is the major/bullit frame under the dunlop pj.
     
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  30. Gasolina

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    PP - you made the switch to the 315 right? Do you know your current specs? On the other thread you mentioned you put some lead at the 10&2. Did you counterbalance? I thought it was weird for an 11.5 ounce racquet w/ 6-7 HL balance to have such a low swingweight
     
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  31. Power Player

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    Yeah, I have the same setup as Verdasco basically. Same lead placement, just less.

    He probably counterbalances in the handle too. I don't really need to since the balance is right where I want it after lead.

    The lower SW is not an issue for me. It is more of a bonus as I get plenty of power and a ton of head speed. I would guess my SW is around 320 after lead, and the stick weighs in at 342.

    12 ounces plus 320 SW will give you a heavy ball if you have the technique.
     
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  32. Gasolina

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    Cool - where do you think your balance is right now?
     
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  33. Power Player

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    Looks 5-6 pts.
     
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    I had one of Verdasco's old 320 PJ frame (pre-Kabuki) for a while (name in the throat). It weighed in at 12.4 (I think) strung with hybrid, L2 + OG (not leather), 7-8pts HL, 60-61 RA. Extremely flexible/arm friendly, 16x19 string pattern. I also had one of the original Major Bullits -- they were the same mold but the Bullits were very boardy, felt higher than 65RA and were uncontrollable.

    Since it was a hairpin, it had silicon in the handle and lead at 3 and 9 only, none under the bumper, which was a distinctive Major Elite bumper.

    Haven't tried the Limited, but the Verdasco frame had 19 crosses. He may have switched, I don't know.
     
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  35. Power Player

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    The limited has 19 crosses as well. Sounds like your Verdasco stick basically, just comes a little lighter.
     
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  36. ProStringing

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    Hi Topspin,

    Fernando's string setup (in June 2012) was a full bed of Luxilon Big Banger Original, at 23/21 KGS:

    It was strung one-piece, around the world. As seen in the photos, he also uses power pads in the throat for the centre six mains.

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  37. tlimster

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    It very well might then. Probably the same mold at least. If I have a chance to demo then I'll let you know. If it really is then I'll be switching to it. The personal Verdasco sticks are too expensive to put into actual play.
     
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  38. ProStringing

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    Here are a couple of pictures of my old Major Bullit Elite for comparison purposes:

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    What is interesting is that Fernando Verdasco's frame has enlarged tie-off holes at 4T and 6T, and that the Major Bullit Elite's enlarged tie-off holes are at 6T and 11T.

    Hope this can be of help,

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  39. Power Player

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    Interesting...Pro, did you find any issue with the tie off holes being so far from the last main? I made a thread about it - lost some tension on my first attempt to string the stick due to slack, but some posters offered some good suggestions for next time.
     
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  40. gavna

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    Verdasco's racquet is the Tec 315 16 mains. We can't verify if the layup is the same, but everything else says it is. It's the Major/Bullitt Tec pro stock frame.[/QUOTE]

    Verdasco using the PT965 under the Dunlop paint.....which IS the current Tecnifibre 315 16M.
    I even posted on another thread the specs on the hairpin of the Tec 315 16m that shows its the PT965 layup.
    I replaced all my 315 16M pallets with TK82s ones and all the new Tec 315 frames have that sticker in green or white with the layup info.

    I would not be shocked go see him back with Tecnifibre soon - the end of 2012 and this season had been a disaster for him and this is the kind of easy mental fix.
     
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  41. Gasolina

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    Lol Dasco's frame is indeed the 315 Ltd., then kudos to Tecnifibre for not putting any garbage technology marketing in there to make it appear "new". Just said it has silicone in the handle :)

    Of course, i'm assuming the same materials were used on the racquet as it has the same feel/flex as the others mentioned. Maybe just a sprinke of Basalt?
     
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  42. ProStringing

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    If you are stringing two-piece on a racket like this, and the main string tie-offs are at 6T, then what I would do, is tension the strings as follows:

    Tension all strings in normal order, including to the 6th main.
    Tension the 8th main.
    Tension the 7th main and then tie-off.

    This leaves a shorter gap between the last main and the tie-off at 6T.

    Regarding the cross tie-offs at 4T on Fernando's racket (and from what I have heard these are the same on the Tecnifibre 315 Ltd 16 Mains), the distance between the last cross and the tie-off is certainly longer than the majority of rackets.

    I personally would string the mains and crosses at the tension requested, use the knot function as I normally do (see below), and tie-off the mains on 6T and the crosses on 7H and 4T.

    I use the knot function for all my tie-offs; if your machine doesn't have this function, then it is up to you whether you increase tension on the final string.

    I feel that the most important thing is to be consistent in technique with the same racket. Even though there will be more tension loss in the last cross on this particular racket, if I strung multiple rackets, the key would be that they all feel the same.

    One way to achieve a shorter distance between the last main/cross string and the tie-off holes would be to enlarge holes nearby to facilitate this.

    With regard to the practice on enlargement of single grommets to enable new tie-off positions, I know that there are many stringers that practice this as much as possible, and there are many others that completely disagree with this practice; I would leave it up to the individual to weigh up the pros and cons of this.

    Hope this can be of help,

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    He was using a blacked-out Head frame for his doubles match this afternoon. It was clear to see the clear Head bumper and Head butt cap from where we were sitting. I took some pics with my iPhone, but they dont really show what we saw with our eyes. The frame shape also looked Head like.

    Regards

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  44. ra1337

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    now he is playing with the new aero pro drive GT 2013 like nadal, obviously a pj ;D
     
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