Versions of Boris Beckers Puma/estusa mold

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  1. Hankenstein

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    I have always been very interested in the classic Boris Becker racket with the nice red and blue paint.

    I see that there are many different names and versions out on the net, but can anyone give me the full history of that mold and what versions that is to be found out there.

    THANKS in advance! :)
     
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  2. Rorsach

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    (Pics courtesy of 80's tennis)

    Puma G. Vilas
    Puma Boris Becker Winner
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    Puma Boris Becker Super
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    Puma Boris Becker Pro
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    Puma Davis Cup Competition (the ones on the right)
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    Puma Top Flex
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    Boris Becker World Champion racket Limited Edition (Produced by Head, on special order for BB)
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    Estusa Boris Becker ProVantech PB Limited Edition
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    Estusa Boris Becker ProVantech PB
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    As far as I remember, he used the Puma Super. Red and Blue racquet. Did he use the others and when did he use them?

    I had the Puma Super and liked it so-so back in the mid 80s before I bought my POG 90. I was a huge Becker fan after watching him serve his way through Wimbledon. However, that goofy screw thing became loose and worn as I would mess with the length on occassion and I got a POG because I couldn't stand feeling that popping slide of the racquet and the looseness of the screw.

    I wish I still had it from a collector standpoint but I'm not a collector. It was the coolest looking racquet I had. It had a horrible cover that wasn't full length and was clear plastic on one side. You'll see them on the bay w/ that cover. The price is driven up by collectors as I can't imagine anyone actually plays with the Super. It has no headguard. It was cheaply made. It slips/slides.

    ^^^^Nice collection of pics.
    I'd play one of those if I liked a really flexy racquet and it didn't have the screw and had some type of headguard and replaceable grommets that you could still get. Am I asking for too much?
     
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    He started with an Adidas GTX Pro until mid 84. After this he played with the Puma G. Vilas. After Wimbledon he "switched" to a Puma BB Winner (different version from retail, with 50/50 graphite/fiberglass). This racquet became the BB Super. After this he pj'ed his BB Super with the Estusa Logo (he only played a real Estusa for about 4 months). After Estusa he went to Head with his mold and had them produce 500 racquets for his personal stash and they also produced 3100 pieces for sale under the Boris Backer brand name.
     
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    Thanks a lot for the pics and info about the rackets. So if i want an actual racket to use in competition it would be the Becker Super that would perform best? The "winner" version seems to have to much fiberglass in it.

    It would be killer-cool to go out on court in a real tournament with this old icon racket in my hand :)
     
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    Becker won his first Wimbledon in 1985 with a G. Vilas frame...
     
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    Time to revive a very old thread.

    I have a Puma Boris Becker Winner, and the opportunity to acquire a Boris Becker Pro. Can anyone tell me what, if anything, is the difference between the two frames?
     
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    The pro contains ceramic and kevlar fibers whereas the winner is mostly fiberglass which makes it softer and a little easier to play. The pro is a pretty hefty stick.
     
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    Many thanks for your prompt reply.
     
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    The Boris Becker Pro was my favorite version.....:)
     
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    I seem to recall a claim on these boards that the blue/red Becker Winner he made famous was actually the same silver/red Vilas frame with which he won Wimbledon 1985 with a blue/red paint job. But I don't remember if the claim seemed credible. Anyone know?
     
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    Has anyone compared the Puma BB Super to the Estusa Power Beam Pro? Which stick is better?
     
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    Just strung a BB Pro, oldest racquet i've ever strung! wow that string pattern was confusing :?
     
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    Somebody is selling a pile of the Boris Becker Worldchampion Rackets (Retail & Pro Stock Versions) on the big auction site... I wonder where they all came from...all new and shiny...
     
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    maybe BB ran out of money again? :D
     
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    After Puma stopped making racquets Becker tried some others and was about to sign a deal with HEAD. He backed out of the deal at the last instant and it turned out the deciding factor was he was so used to the unique way the somewhat narrow open throat on the Puma and the head came together creating, for lack of a better word, a sort of 'shoulder'. Since he liked to cradle his racquet with his left hand high on the throat with 1 finger on the strings he just felt he could not feel comfortable with another frame that didn't have that same 'shoulder'. It's been mentioned on this site that HEAD actually manufactured frames for him using the old Puma mold for awhile.

    I hit with the Puma Vilas and Becker models and liked them. Never hit with the Estusas so I wonder how they compare.
     
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    here are mine - the one on the right arrived today :)
    i know exactly what you mean about the shoulder - feels great. seriously considering using these full time.

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    Anyone know anything about the Puma Dynamic 90?
     
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    I found the BB Super much stiffer than the Winner. And much prefer the Winner. In fact even with 60 or so vintage classics in my collection and obviously access to all the modern racquets I would choose the Winner if I had to play for my life .
     
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    »Becker Power«? Never heard of, never seen! Thanks for the picture.
     
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    Proracketeer is that rep bow tie covering up a plastic or graphite bridge ??????
     
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    :D
     
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    You little devil !!!! This is interesting!!!
    Wow I've never seen this one my friend .. Tell me about her ! Is she more flexible or stiffer than the puma winner ? Thad my MO .. Always interested in the Pumas and always looking for something more flexy in their lineage :)
    Than you for posting this pic.. Great now I won't be able to sleep tonite...
     
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    Everyone said this but it is not correct! Estusa/Sanhosun did not sell any Mold! The Mold of the Heads was a new one (saw it in real) and the frame also was (looking above) slightly wider at 5+8°clock and the beam was thicker (+1mm).
     
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    From your words I seem to understand that Estusa/Sanhosun bought Puma mold, and so Puma and Estusa both share the same mold.
    So the only differences were in the handles (PCS system on Puma and standard pallets on Estusa) and maybe layup ?
    Is it correct?

    Thanks
     
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