vibration dampener - necessary?

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  1. HeeK_ILRF

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    it's much time i ask myself this thing..
    i see players in tv using these objects and so i give me a reason of that, i mean i understand thay have somewhat utility but...someone that uses them can tell me if he feels difference and benefit using vs. not using a dampener?
    thanks in advance
     
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  2. Andyroo10567

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    Another question from you to answer...
    It alters the feel so its more muted. Some claim to prevent tennis elbow and other injuries caused by vibration. I usually dont like to use a dampener because i want to hear me hit the sweetspot. Dampeners sort of hide that sound.
     
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    Is it possible to try playing with and without a dampener, so you can decide for yourself?
     
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  4. Andyroo10567

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    Honestly, you dont even need to play tennis to decide. Bouncing a ball on a racquet was good enough for me..
     
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  5. struggle

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    it's mostly about feel
     
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    I have always played with a dampener. When it pops out, I can feel and hear the difference. Perhaps it's more habit, but I prefer to play with one.
     
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  7. Stefanm

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    Certainly not necessary for me. I tend to like the more damped feel with one, but do seem to get more feedback on a centered hit vs not without one.

    I tend to practice without one to get more feedback, and often play matches with one . But in reality , when I'm playing a match, I don't even care about the difference.

    It's strictly personal preference
     
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  8. Devil_dog

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    I can hear a big difference in sound with and without a dampener. I prefer the dampened sound. Feel? I can't really tell much of a difference, TBH.
     
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  9. WhereIsMacMac

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    Couldn't feel the difference with versus without dampener. But for some reason I prefer the sound with dampener. Plus it looks cool.
     
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    I also didn't find any significant difference in feel without a dampener. I use one because I like the look and it helps me differentiate my primary racket from my backup since they are both otherwise the same.
     
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  11. Shroud

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    My 2 cents is that it is personal. I use one and have to. I hate the ping sound and the "feel". Dampeners help remove that.

    Recently I just had one racket and the dampener broke. I was forced to play without one and it sucked. I did adapt and was able to play OK. The feel was different and I didnt like it. Dampeners are a must for me. YMMV.
     
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  12. GlenK

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    ^^Me too.. But it is totally personal preference. I can't stand playing without one and those that don't can't stand it with one.

    Also, most dampeners feel different too. My suggestion would be get a few from friends extra racquets and put a few in your pocket. Then just switch them around while you're playing and see if you find one that you like.
     
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  13. mikeler

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    I think they help slightly increase arm comfort. Nothing major though.
     
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    If I want to replicate the feel of 'w/damp' as much as possible, would I want to increase string tension or decrease it? I use the white oval TW damps on a poly/multi hybrid, 95" head. I realize this question is probably an over-simplification and there may be more factors at play in a stringbed/damp system than is readily apparent. So please go as far in-depth as much as you'd like.
     
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  15. Bdarb

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    sounds twangy or pingy when I hit without dampener. Also, the racquet seems more unstable in my hand without one on impact. This may be in my head just and the change is just the noise I hear (people have said this) but to me there is definitely a difference. I prefer to hit with one.
     
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  16. struggle

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    damps don't change the tension (if they do, it's very little and usually on the two center mains unless its a worm type damp), so I don't see how this could be achieved through doing such.
     
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  17. gmatheis

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    All dampeners do is get rid of the "pingy" noise.

    Everything else is in people's heads.

    That said, I don't like the noise so I use one.
     
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  18. SpinToWin

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    How much the dampener changes your hitting experience depends on the damper you use. From my personal experience the Donut dampeners (round with hole in the middle)are the 'strongest', blocking out nearly all vibrations thus giving a very muted feel and slightly decreasing power on impact and the size of the sweetspot. They also provide a very different feel when playing spin. In the end though, all you can do is try it out for yourself (at most about 7$ for two dampeners, so it won't hurt your wallet ;) ), some people love it while others hate it.
     
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  19. JW10S

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    Vibration dampeners are little pieces of rubber, that cost only a few cents to manufacture, yet it is amazing the almost magical properties people will attribute to them. They dampen the sound vibrations of the strings, they take the 'ping' out, nothing more. They do not cure/prevent tennis elbow or any other injuries, they do not give more control, they do not give more/less power, they don't change the size of the sweet spot, they don't give you more/less spin, and they have no effect on the flight of the ball. All they do is change the feedback you get from the strings, some people like more feedback while some like less. They are certainly NOT 'necessary'.
     
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  20. Knife

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    Necessary in most racquets.
     
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    It depends on me racquet, strings and your arm, really.
    Carplal tunnel syndrome bothered me to the point of having surgury, so no Iallways use something on my racquets, but it isn't really neccesary to BUY one. Many pro's, Venus williams being one, just use a rubber band tied around a couple strings at the bottom of their racq's!
    If you find something you like, they are cheap and look cool, tho. I look for chunks of rubber on the sidewalk and the rubber that is used on car hood latch pins, make GREAT vibe dampeners!

    Say..your sig. says you use incredibly low tension strings. I like to string in the low 40's, myself, but yours seem to be ridiculously loose!
     
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  22. Attila_the_gorilla

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    I stopped using them, I get better sound feedback of the kind of contact I make with the ball.
     
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  23. GBplayer

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    If you use lead wieghts on your racquet, surely that acts in much the same way as a vibration dampener?
     
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    I use dampeners to stop the vibration that causes tennis elbow, to each his or her own.


    Cheers
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  25. struggle

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    yeah, you got that part right!!
     
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    It is crazy. But the strings are kevlar mains and the racket is only 85" so it plays firmer. Also I use a constant pull machine and prestretch the strings. So its firmer than it sounds.

    Also I just played with a 110" and I strung it at 42/30lbs. My tournagrip string meter measured it at 52lbs.

    Though I NEED a dampner at those low tensions. Rubber bands have never seemed to provide enough dampening.
     
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  27. eelhc

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    Really depends on the person. I am cursed (for tennis anyways) with a hyper sensitive arm. Without a dampener, I swear that I can feel the vibration travel up my forearm to my elbow. I can also tell a difference between different dampener types. I don't find this to be a benefit. I play with guys who have bionic elbow/arms who can hack at the ball for months with a dead poly stringbed and never feel a thing or get elbow pain. I rather have their arm.
     
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    me too. what's with these guys? makes me wish i didn't know so much......maybe the TE would go away!!
     
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  29. fiachratennis

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    I find a huge difference but also depending on the weight aswell as the string tension I use sometimes I can play without one but 90% of the time I use one
     
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  30. Bartelby

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    Dampeners are more muted but I still notice a clear difference between weil struck and not so well struck balls.

    Without dampeners it is as if someone turned up the volume/distortion level on poorly struck balls.

    It's mainly a case of getting your ears accustomed to a sound and although I can nearly get my ear accustomed to not using a dampener, I prefer a rubber band.
     
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    It won't reduce any vibrations.
    It just reduces noise for better feel.
     
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  32. crash1929

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    i have better feel w/o a dampener (wilson tour 90). I have more of a sense of pushing and feeling the ball, whereas with a dampener the shot feels more like a dead slap.
     
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    I don't use one because they have been proven to do nothing to reduce shock, and therefore arm pain. I don't really care how my racket sounds. The other reason is the fact that if the ball happens to hit it, you're pretty much guaranteed to lose the point.
     
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    I had one in my current racket, because I felt i needed one on my previous. But since it chose to fly away during one of my shots I discovered i better do without it on this one. Result: Better feel and feedback.
     
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  35. newpball

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    A vibration dampener changes 'ping' into 'pop'.

    If your ears find that more pleasant then go for it!

    :grin:
     
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    100% correct :smile:
     
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    Agreed -- it only takes out the pinging sound. Nothing else. They realy ought to advertise them as "ping dampeners."
     
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    I found that the feedback from a poly/multi hybrid wears my wrist and shoulder out after 1.5 hours of playing. This even with a rubber band dampener. The strings were Cyberflash 1.25/Hexy Fiber 16. I'm looking for another setup, but I'll stick with the rubber band.
     
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    The idiocy has apparently not left the world.

    :grin:
     
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    +1. my 2 year old ripped the rubber band off of one of my sticks. i didn't notice it until i started hitting and the sound was off putting. i didn't notice any change in the feel but the sound was definitely distracting! (like i need the help! :evil:)
     
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  41. hugo

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    Not unless you hate that piny sound!
    If you can't hear the difference, get your hearing checked :)

    I don't believe this little piece of rubber is going to help with less vibration.
    I was more convinced that dampeners in the handle were a more effective way for controlling vibration.
     
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    I feel a slight vibration on the handle without the dampner(Like the vibrate on cellphone feeling)

    It goes aways when i put a dampner on
     
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    Definetly less buzz in the handle with a dampener. Whether it helps fighting TE and GE(I have both) I rest my case... :neutral:
     
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    The sound with the dampener on is by a large margin more smooth and comforting to the ears.

    I however used a dampener on my 98 and 100+ head size racquets because you pretty much have to until I started playing with smaller racquets such as the 6.0, PS90 and Blade 93.

    I love playing with those racquets and because of the smaller head size I just don't bother with the dampener.

    I have the Wilson Four and Head Youtek Extreme MP and they are 105 and 100 head size that require a dampener because I can feel discomfort in my elbow after 30 minutes. I don't use those racquets much so therefore a dampener is not a mainstay of my game.
     
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  45. Bartelby

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    Dampeners dampen string vibration.

    Pluck a guitar's strings and hear how the noise and vibration last.

    Then pluck it again and then clamp your hand somewhere on the neck.

    A dampener has the same effect.

    I like it with a rubber band dampener as the string vibration is annoying, but sometimes I've almost switched to nothing.
     
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  46. Muppet

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    If I want to get similar string bed stiffness for a synthetic gut full bed without a rubber band dampener, approximately how many lbs. should I increase the tension in my signature racquet? I will be ignoring the ping and vibration sound for the sake of the experiment. I'm going for a better quality of shot (i.e. depth control, spin, and accuracy.)

    Thank you
     
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  47. FedLIKEnot

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    As people have said for me the feel is only slightly better. But the sound that is why I dont use it I like knowing and having that feedback of my strokes.
     
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  48. Mementi

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    No dampener for me. I like the pure sound and feel much more.
     
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    Best dampener is the wilson W type. Failing that elastic band. Bab ones and other oval type ones always pop out or fly out mid rally. Others like Head ones are like not having one.
     
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  50. V1_Classic

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    I'm continually amazed by those who think a dampener does more than suppress string vibration. Just goes to show you the power of the mind. ;-)
     
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