Vibration Dampeners -- My experience with this dozen +

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  1. corbind

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    Over the past two weeks I've been assembling my orders list for TW. Although those are likely very similar to the round Babolat ones I reviewed and they're $6 a pop, I'm still gonna buy them as well as some others. I figure if my test & review save some guys $ from buying bad damps then I've done my good deed for the day.
     
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    ^^^

    Speaking for myself and other TW posters, we appreciate your efforts for starting and maintaining this great thread. Thanks again.
     
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    +1 wilson smile is the best (or anything from wilson shaped like :( )
     
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    I find them better because they literally never pop out of the string bed.
     
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    Does anybody have experinces on Head Perfect Damp?
     
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    Quote: Vibration dampeners do very little to lessen the low frequency frame shock that goes up the arm.


    Dampeners do nothing to reduce frame shock to the arm.
     
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    tho I can feel in some frames that it matters. Some sticks are uncomfortble without nasty big dampener. I have big prince "P" dampeners for this case http://************.com/images/medium/prince_p_damp_os_dampener.jpg
     
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    Sorry but you can only hear a difference so that makes you think that you feel the difference. Dampeners do absolutely nothing to prevent vibration to the arm, they only change sound.
     
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    I firmly believe that the GOAT dampener is now the new Babolat square dampener. Super soft, never comes out of the racquet due to the locking tabs that hug the cross..the option to mute it even further with the middle insert..just very very quality dampener.
     
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    Granted the new square version is an upgrade to their previous round version. Yet for my money it's still not nearly as effective as my favorite worm style damp.
     
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    Ahhh, the worm style for me is too much dampening. I like the happy medium.
     
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    Thank you for posting this!
     
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    I prefer the grommet style dampers - those worm damps mute the feedback too much for my liking. Of the grommet types, I tend to select them for the specific racquet / string pattern. For an open pattern, I tend to go for something firmer. For a closed pattern, something softer.

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    Pro's Pro Vibra Stop - very, very soft, squidgy, material. Doesn't provide major dampening - tends to filter the minor vibrations only. Blue is a darker royal blue rather than a lighter blue in the photos. Good if you want only minimal interference from the dampener. 2g

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    Tourna Sampras 'O' damp - not too stiff, not too soft. Like baby bear's porridge, just right. Good dampener without losing feedback. Just a shame it doesn't come in different colors. 1.6g

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    The comments above are for the red/black ones. Tourna have recently released some white colored O rings. Exactly the same design but the white ones are MUCH stiffer than the red (softest) and black (soft).

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    Babolat Custom Damp - stiffer material than the Sampras O damp, and provides a bit more dampening, firming up of the strings. Good dampener without losing too much feedback. 2g

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    Pacific 'Vibra-Damper' - larger size O ring which you have to force into any denser stringing pattern. Feels quite brittle and doesn't feel like it filtering much vibration due to its brittleness. Disappointing.

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    Wilson ProFeel Plus - not to be confused with the ProFeel which is different. The Plus is made from a very, very, soft, squidy silcone material - the softest I've ever seen. The problem is because its so soft, it doesn't seem to press against the strings sufficiently. Absolutely minimal vibration dampening. Disappointing. 2g

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    I bought some more dampeners and added my thoughts and the weights to the original thread .....


    Babolat Custom II (square)
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_Custom_Damp_II_Yellow_Black/descpageBAB-BCD2YB.html
    It is an improvement over the circular ones they used to sell as this square one stays in better. It’s soft rubber, medium weight, expensive but good.

    Dunlop (square)
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Dunlop_Vibration_Dampener/descpageDUNLOP-DVIBE.html
    Looks cool and the rubber is soft but still harder than most other damps I’ve tested so not recommended.

    Gamma TNT Core (2.5")
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Gamma_TNT_Core_Dampener_Black/descpageGAMMA-GTVTDBK.html
    Only seeing it online I was prejudiced against this from the start figuring the name is a joke. When I got it in on the strings I liked its soft rubber as it is the softest of all I’ve ever tested. It applies to the racquet nicely and looks good. Yea Gamma.

    Head Smartsorb (4.25")
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Head_Smartsorb_Vibration_Dampener/descpageACHEAD-HSZVIB.html
    I swap back and forth with this and the generic TW damp. The Head is flatter, shorter and has very short “fingers” to grip the strings. This one compares much to the TW generic damp and, between the two, I still like the TW damp slightly better.
     
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    Huge fan of the Tourna Sampras 'O' damp in red on my K90s. Softer than the black one, doesn't really interfere with the feel, and plus, it matches the racquet.
     
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  17. ArliHawk

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    My favorite 2 dampeners right now are the Prince Beast dampener and Babolat loony damp goldfish. Using the Beast Dampener.
     
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    I also used the "black tennis balls" that came with Wilson Ultra Wrap, had 8 of them that lasted me many years, now my last one is about to die, does anyone know where can I get these or something VERY similar?

    Thanks
     
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    I like the babolat O style ones. They don't over dampen and seem light.

    have any of you guys used power pads?
     
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  20. corbind

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    Tested this one a few months now -- fantastic damp

    I've added my review to the original thread after testing this for a few months....

    McMaster-Carr ½” Grommet (item 9600K22 )
    A buddy gave me some to try and I was hooked. They’re taller, fatter, and weight more than other “O” ring damps and remarkably flexible. That squishiness coupled with being gummy (not sticky though) grips the strings so well.

    I don’t understand why this one works so well but it’s now on all my racquets. Although only crazy people use more than one, I've experimented quite a bit using 1 to 5 at once. For some reason using 3 seems to feel best. Just put me in the looney bin. :shock:
     
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    Using the volkl and the big pacific "o" damps in some dense pattern rackets I have. I noticed now they are fitted, two of the mains are pushed noticeably out to the left and the right just to squeeze them in. Is this a big no-no? Should I swap them for a smaller damp so the mains/crosses sit flush?
     
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    dampeners are kind of a strange thing. I don't feel that they do anything other than remove that ping sound. It's not like you hit harder or get more spin, or preserved your elbow so you can use stiffer string.

    However, in my short experience, my favourite dampeners are the Yonex triangle and the round Babolat custom (haven't tried the square). I like the Yonex in my Prestige MP and the Bab in my IG Rad Pro. Don't know why, but not in love with them switched.
     
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  23. ArliHawk

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    I have a new dampener that I like. Bought some Karakal Button dampeners for nostalgic reasons; they look a lot like some Tecnifibre dampener I used when I was younger. They are very solid. Not sure they trump my Babolat Loony Damps, but they are worth a try.
     
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    Just bought the Wilson Shock Shield dampeners. You are correct, the string bed feels VERY muted with them.
     
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    Question: has someone tried the Pro's pro VIB Control? Because I was planning to get Babolat's Custom 2, but a bit expensive. EDIT: What are the advantages of "O" shaped dampeners? Seems very popular. EDIT2: Well we'll see for the Pro's Pro VIB Control. Ordered it along an awesome steal (http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=7380186&postcount=2866). Although an answer for the "O" shaped dampener question definitely still interests me.
     
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    In my experience, the smaller the better in terms of dampeners. The tiny "Prince - EXO 3" ones are great, as are the small opaque "W" Wilson damps (not the big ones). The small Yonex worms are pretty good. I like the worms as there's little chance of them falling off as you know you will NEVER find it once it comes off!
     
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    I lost my Prince Exo dampeners which is why I switched.
     
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    And then I go up the page and realise someone has tried the Pro's Pro...
     
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    Haven't tried the Shock Shield, but I did try the Shock Trap. Didn't like it - too muted for me.

    I prefer just the normal ones that go on the two center strings. I guess some people like smaller ones to retain more 'feel'. I honestly can't tell a huge difference from one dampener to the next - my main criteria is one that is durable and won't come off easily. I have a favorite, but I can use different ones if necessary.
     
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    Well, here they are, Pro's Pro VIB Control. Click for full view.
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    No blue dampener in my pack. It's indeed very soft. I only could hit on my knee :)lol:) with the stringbed (rained this night), and it got rid of most if not all the nasty vibrations throughout the handle that I used to think it was due to a crack. Going to put one, then two in the same racquet to see if I can notice a difference. That would cost less than a pack of 2 Babolat dampener anyway: 2 Bab cost a little less than 6€, 5 Pro's Pro for less than 3€... Multiply by two to have an even number of damps. Rather put two Pro's Pro than one Bab given the price.
     
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    NEW DAMP REVIEWED

    I was skeptical but figured I'd spend some money to find out if it's any good. So my short review (also added to the O):

    Serpent Dampener (4”)
    This is a tennis specific giant rubberband. It’s extremely soft which is good and it seems to do a nice job dampening. Still it is the heaviest of all worms at 3.1g but it's really quite nice and my favorite for the category. Comes in a pack of two for just $2 so icing on the cake.

    Some may not like the weight but for me it's quite welcome. I like how they made these go on easy and legally (compared to the Prince Silencer).
     
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    What the deal with the little o-rings you used inbetween strings? How did those work out?
     
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    The tiny ones on the left side (post #2) really do little. Then again it's been a LONG time since I used only the tiny ones all across the bottom cross/mains to damp. I'll have to try that one again this week when I restring.
     
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    I have tried many dampeners, but I find the Dunlop Bio ones (green/black) the best. They are very soft, so they fit between the strings very easily. I have tried some that were so hard I could hardly fit them.
     
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    I hope you don't mind me adding to your thread, but I've been inspired by the mega grip thread and I have some weights for some I've tried:
    - Yonex dampener - 3.9g (very damp, stays put, nice)
    - Gamma Red Eye - 3.5g (latest version, very damp, my fave)
    - Sampras O dampener - 1.5g (lightest, medium dampening)
    - Prince exo3 dampener - 2.2g (little dampening)
    - Wilson emotisorbs - 2.9g (med damp, ok)
    - technifibre tiny dampener - 1.7g (little dampening, seems like it'll fly if hit, looks good, i think tsonga is currently using it)
    - gamma red dot damp - 2.4g (med dampening, ugly, stays put, pretty good)
     
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    I notice we're dead on with all but one weight. So good weighing. Amazing how we get a different feeling from different damps. I can't play without 'em. ;)
     
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    Switched to the TW worm with the little hooks on each end. For a buck each, I really like them. They don't kill touch like the one I was previously using and much lighter. Only "complaint" is that they tend to slide up the strings and I have to readjust at every few points.
     
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    Yonex dampener put on dense string pattern?
    thanks
     
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    I have to have the Shockbuster II, double wormy LOL

    I know it dampens way too much and feel is super muted but it makes every string job sound awesome. SCHWACK!
     
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    I've always preferred to call them a damper, as that is the noun that describes an object that subdues or deadens.
    Dampen being the verb regarding elimination of vibration. Dampener is the noun form of the word, something that dampens. Both correct, dampener just reminds me of being something that increases moisture.
     
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    Stopped by the hardware store and picked up a handful of cable grommets for a couple bucks. My favorite (at least for a while).
     
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    Me too. Shockbuster II is the best one I have tried. It really does mute things and like it all dead. SCHWACK indeed.

    The only issue occurred recently when moving to the PS85. The dampener is just too LONG. It doesnt get tight enough in such a small racket. I actually had to loop it around the 2 center mains and then pull it out to the other mains to make it taught enough.

    All other dampeners just dont do enough for my taste.
     
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    How does the Yonex damp compare to the Babolat Custom Damp II (Square, with or without barbell)?
     
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    To those who prefer a completely dampened feel I've used the Gamma Shockbuster for a number of years. Felt the unattractive design had to be dealt with and sometimes it'd be just a tad too dead so I ended up trying many smaller dampeners. None of them could compare until I came across OwnTheZone rubber bands. They are pretty much glorified rubber bands but seem more durable and are absolutely perfect.
     
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    Didn't like the Dunlop (transparent square, black/green penta, orange round one), and didn't like the Wilson Shock Trap. Not enough dampening to my taste, and didn't like the feel of them.

    I did like the soft old black Head one, and the soft W-shape Wilson one a bit better. And I would like to try the TW-worm, but it is unavailable in Europe.

    Up to now I preferred the Pacific black worm (looked like the gamma shockbuster). Great dampening, easy on the elbow, and low impact visually. Quite durable as well, when not overstreched, as they broke only after a year or so. Sadly I can't buy them anymore.

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    I am now testing the Pacific VibSnake :

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    I think it replaces the previous Pacific worm, and it is a combination of a classic damper and a snake. It dampens pretty good, never will come off (2 side hooks + 2 attached to middle strings), and looks quite durable.

    They come in black and orange, but the orange one, which I have from a friend for testing, is just to flashy for me. I would like tho buy some blacks ones, but they are a bit pricy for me (ordering one online would cost me about 9 to 12 euro), so I'm going to search for some cheaper ones.

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    @corbind, is this the Serpent Dampener you like most ?

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    Any thoughts or comments on these Pro's Pro dampeners ?

    Pro's Pro Serpent dampener :

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    Pro's Pro Scorpion dampener :

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    I'm going to test the PP serpent dampener now.

    Only after one match, my pacific vibsnabe took a hit on a big serve, and off went one hook. The dampener didn't fall of, and still dampened, but it doesn't look good any more.

    The PP serpent dampener does not have hooks, so it should be more durable and resistant, plus it costs 60% to 75% less then the pacific vibsnake.
     
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    @corbind, sorry I got confused a bit, and mixed up worms and serpents (but I can't edit my messages here, so can't rectify it).

    Now, what I found interesting, when comparing the dampening of some worms and snakes, is that you can increase the dampening slightly, by decreasing the tension of the worm or snake.

    Either by decreasing the number of strings covered, or by weaving it losely around 2 strings instead of 1 string every time.

    The more lose it is woven, the more mushy the feeling, which I like.

    This way I was able to get the same feeling from two different dampeners (a worm and a snake), and maybe this will also increase durability a bit.

    If you haven't tried this yourself, give it a try, and see if you can confirm my findings.
     

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