Discussion in 'Other Equipment' started by K!ck5w3rvE, May 22, 2004.
Do you use them?
yep a rubber band
Depends if my strings are alive or dead... I use it on my hammers thoughout the life of them, but on the triad... just when the strings are new... sometimes I use a rubberband... they all are diffrent levels of dapening for me
How do you tie a rubber band to the strings for just the right dampening effect?
I'm not convinced that using a rubber band makes much of a difference other than trying to make your racquet look like Agassi's.. does he still even use an elastic???
Rubberbands work really well if tied properly.
Rubberband. They don't fall off, feel great, and I get them free.
I use a cable grommet (round black rubber doughnuts). 4 for a buck at my local hardware store.
Here you go mate, a tutorial on how to tie it for best effect!
http://www.tenniswizard.com/dynamic...kies&AUTHOR=Andre Agassi and Andy Roddick
Man those pictures are small.. hard to follow the directions. I guess if it works for you, then more power to ya.
Me, I'll do without.
The sweetspot is my vibration damper.
I use them though I'm not sure whether I'd be able to tell the difference with/without.
I definetely use a dampener. I use a cable grommet. I can't stand all that vibration without the dampener.
Whether a dampner really takes vibration out of frame I don't know . I do know that with one all my shots "feel" solid & that breeds confidence which leads to success.
I use the Pete Sampras "O" dampeners. Every once in a while I will hear one of my teammates hitting and I hear that tell-tale "PING!" that says they don't have a dampener. I'm like, "Man, you should get a vibration dampener." I don't like the sound or feel w/o them. Tryed rubber bands, didn't like them.
The best virbration dampeners to user is a rubber band. It doesn't cost anything but it is one of best virbration there is. it easy to use and it work the best.
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Sometimes I smack the ball where the dampener is and produce that god awful flat feel
Nah I no longer use them. I used rubberbands for years, and I got tired tieing them to my racquet.
From what I have read, it's mostly a noise thing, the frame weight and other factors actually dissipate the shock. But I use them for the sound and at times if I need more "pop" that day, I will go to a different, smaller dampener, like a quarter sized "peace sign", and if I need to take some of power off my strings, will use the longer "worm" style that contacts more strings. Works for me.
I can't play Luxilon ACE without a damper. Most other strings work fine though.
i sweat by the gamma worm. kim clijsters uses one. it takes all that nasty vibration and ping sound out of your strings. i wont play with anything else.
how in the hell can you play without one of any kind? i can hear the ping and feel the pain in my elboy a mile away...
I just realized why we didn't use them 30 years ago when I was growing up and learning to play.... wooden racquets, THE ULTIMATE DAMPENER! I hit with one about 2 years ago and you can't believe the flex in the throat, quite a contrast from todays power (and stiff) racquets.
The Pacific Vibra-Damper is pretty good. They come in packs of 2, and various colours. They look a bit like the Sampras "O", but chunkier, and stays more snugs in the strings.
Bab's High Damp for me, with some Wilson W's still lying about the place. I have some unique rattling Sampras O's if anybody wants them!
I personally threw away all dampeners and switched to rubber bands, and I think they are by far the better thing:
1) They are cheap;
2) Easy to put;
3) Stay on and don't fly away if you hit bad;
4) Can put them in several places to control vibration/softness.
I personally use 2 of them, one near the head and one near the base of the racquet. Vibration I would say 0. I have put them 1 year ago and they are still there and never moved. Actually need to replace them like once a year.
don't need 'em, don't want 'em. i just don't like hitting with a board.
Simple physics dictates that they can't have much of an impact: a 2gram dampener on a 300+ gram racket hitting a 60gram ball. Still I used to have the Sampras O dampeners on my rackets for a couple of months. Never really saw the difference.
Not to be mean, but this is pointless. Physics studies the effects, not the pure mass/weight. So 2 grams on 300 grams on 60 grams says nothing. That's the vibration deriving on impatcing masses that counts...and physics says anything you put on moderating this vibration slows the vibration itself...
I meant to say that dampeners have no effect on frame shock or vibration. The 300g racket hitting the 60g ball was the about frame shock/vibration not the string vibration. String dampers can reduce string vibration, but they don't have an effect on many rackets and even when they do it is extremly minimal because of physics.
Now as far as the string vibration very little vibration goes down the string toward the throat area where the dampener is. This happens because the vibration radiates out at all angles into the frame (physics), then down the frame into the handle, and then into your arm if there's enough of it. The fact that they change the sound of the racket doesn't mean a reduction in harmful vibration. Vibration absorbers do not minimize shock; they just change the sensation and sound of the post impact vibration. Dampeners also deaden the feel of the racket, and this is not good because the feedback you get from your racket is very important.
I was only justifying why I don't use them and why I feel they don't help me. To me the effects of dampeners are mostly psychological. I'm not arguing that they might not help some people.
i have to use it..because i hate the "PING" sound w/o the dampener....i use gamma shockbuster by the way
I don't use a vibration dampener
I don't use one because I like the extra feel and the sound lets me know if I am hitting the sweet spot. A vibration dampaner doesn't change the amount of vibration that much it mainly seems to get rid of the ping sound many people find annoying.
That's why I use 2 "dampeners" (rubberband) located 1 at the throat and 1 at the head of the racquet...the result is amazing. Never had elbow pains in my life and wrist problems.
Don't agree at all on this: "The fact that they change the sound of the racket doesn't mean a reduction in harmful vibration. Vibration absorbers do not minimize shock; they just change the sensation and sound of the post impact vibration". I don't think (and we could prove it phisically) that a dampener only changes sound and sensation...but we have different point of view here so won't help going deep onto this I guess. Cheers.
Placing a dampener (or rubberband or whatsoever) in places other than the usual location at the throat is basically 'illegal' according to the USTA rulebook. If the tournament officials are professional enough, they wouldn't let you play with a racquet that has a dampener at the top/head of the strings. However, place 2 damperner at the throat is okay.
But I suppose it doesn't matter if you're just playing for fun.
its been proven that shock dampeners dont take any vibration out of the racket. I personally feel that the racket is a little less twangy with out one.
Hello all from Greece!
A new member here and I am really glad that I am here!
My 1st question is about the vibration dampeners.
Let me be clear (I always respect the TW’s replies but I would like to hear yours as well)
1)Do the dampeners that weave in and out of the strings offer more damp than the dampeners that cover only 2 strings?
2)Do the dampeners that have hooks on the side are less durable than the ones that don’t (but both weaving in and out of the strings)
3)which ones do you suggest to damp more and be really durable? (too far to order too often!!!!)
1) There is no difference.
2) I've never seen a dampener break.
3) A rubberband is the best. (Even though they don't make a difference.)
1.I thought that it should have a difference as it gets in touch with more strings
2)Me 2, but some people says that on the TW feedbacks
3)Regarding the dampeners anyone that somebody suggests?
you guys know all they do is affect the sound, right? If they actually absorbed the real shock from hitting they'd heat up...
Used one until re-started using my Prestige. Now I think that if I don't like the racquet without a vibdamp, then the racquet is not ok for me.
I use a Head Smartsorb Vibration Dampener and it works very well for me. [/url]
I prefer the feel without the dampener but I have to use one because I hate the ping sound.
I use Wilson Ws. I'm gonna try the Sampras Os because I heard they don't absorb as much.
I want all feel and no ping.
The Sampras 0 is the best dampener I've tried so far. I recommend u tie it with a tie wrap around a main or the bottom cross to avoid losing it.
The 0's are not all the same. The purple Luxilon one has a diffrent feel as do the hardware store cable grommets.
No, I've never liked using a vibration dampener. I feel like using one takes away all of the feel on my shots, and I've just gotten used to the ping sound, so it doesn't bother me at all.
i use a Volkl VibraStop Vibe Dampener. It works really well and looks good with a prince shark.
first i try for a while the original vib. dampener that the brand provides if i like it i stay with it if not i tie the best vib. damp ever made!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 the rubber band.....
I am going to try and use a rubberband the next few times I hit as one of my teammates swears by them. I'll give them a shot, but I'm making no promises lol.
I've used the rubber band the last few days, and I just can't get used to it. I just plain don't like dampeners lol. So, no dampener for me, not even a rubber band.
Rubber band for me.
I've been using rubberbands over a year now and they work better than any dampeners out there.
i think it has to do with the racquet as much as the person when it comes to dampeners. i can't play Head TiS2 without at least two dampeners, but with my Yonex R-27 i play it without any dampeners fine. so i think there is a racqet factor to think of when it comes to the dampeners
Actually, I think he is allowed to have the dampener at the top of the racquet. The USTA rules state that vibration damping devices "may only be placed outside the pattern of the crossed strings." So the top row should be fine.
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