Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by Gee Willikers Batman!, Mar 21, 2008.
he is not good either..pusher.
Yeah, go ahead and insult others on your high-horse since your so good. Looky here Slappano is a 6.0 playing ITF's. He is almost a professional player. He is WAY too good to show any of his videos online so he contributes to the forum by making fun of teenagers.
You make yourself vulnerable by babbling on too much. The time has come to be quiet. If you think you are the best, so be it.
I think you have me confused with Slappano. Since he said "Oh I can play.."
but won't man-up and post a video. People often say, posting a video on here is brave since there are so many flamers & such.
The more he talks the less credibility he has. He has no clue. Now he wants other people to post their video. This just keeps getting better.
I went to the Jerk store today, and they were all out of you. Let the thread die.
LOL...being stupid and lying about a video is not brave. Have another med Butchie.
LOL...YESSSS!! You mean it?? You will let it die? I would have so much respect for you if you never post on this thread and never show us another video. No one cares. Get a girlfriend instead of posting.
Somehow I think the ADHD Butchie does not take meds for will post again.
Lol? I recall you saying that you wouldn't "bring up the subject" anymore. Good job. Think what you want. Bringing others down because they seem better then you for playing a shorter amount of time doesn't make you look bad-ass.
He even screwed up a Seinfeld line...pathetic.
Maybe you just don't get enough attention at home, but why is it you think others are jelous of you? I could care less about you. I have seen other posters video and most don't act like you do. They actually get a wake up call when others don't think they are as good as they think. How many posters have to tell you how much work you need. You are good at hitting with a ball machine and playing your little friend Anthony...
I believe TonLars was picked apart and people called him a 3.5 player...but what I saw was an excellent player with solid strokes, so who knows. I do know this, your name should be Butchie.
I thought we agreed to let the thread die since "nobody cares."
Yes..lets see if you can just not post on this thread. let it die. go play tennis, take meds and ask the prettiest girl in you grade out for a date.
Good luck Butchie.
Sorry I don't watch Seinfeld lol.
He would make me look like Roddick simply because I don't think he's ever seen a 100 mph serve up the T x_X
He was supposed to say the "The Jerk Store called and they are running out of you"
Its line from a famous Seinfeld episode. George was eating a bunch of shrimp and a co-worker said "Geroge, the ocean called..they're runnin' out of shrimp"...great line. So George thinks up the Jerk Store line but messes it up. Ends up telling the guy he slept with his wife..who we find out has cancer or is dead (can't remember). A classic Seinfeld episode.
I am in a weekly clinic. Guys range from 4.0 to 5.0. There is a huge difference between Ed the 4.0 and Tom the 5.0. If Tom played Ed, he would make him look like a 5.5 easy. Only way to tell how good someone is to play someone at or slightly above your level. But it seems as if GWB is done with the nonsense..good. This thread needs to end.
You're getting some tough criticsm but when you put up what appears to be an "ain't I good" video you can expect a harsh response. Just let your racquet do the talking.
I assume you want criticism in an effort to improve-if not then ignore this post.
I'm not a teaching pro but I have a son that will play D-1 next fall so I think I know some of what it takes to play at a higher level. BTW, he started at 15.
The good: I do like your footwork, your split step is good and you seem to maintain balance during your shots. I think balance is to key to tennis and you seem to have a good start with it. Make an effort to get stronger in your legs as it will add an explosive element to your movement that is now lacking. Good footwork can take you a long way in tennis.
I like your technique on return of serve, you move forward, find balance and strike the ball. Your ability to maintian that technique while facing a quality serve is yet to be determined.
I like your serving motion but on occassion you don't go forward enough-no big deal right now. Your current serve would get pounded by most any state ranked junior in the boys 16 division. More pace is required.
Your groundstrokes are fine with regard to technique. Whether they have the necessary depth and pace is hard to determine-but I doubt it. You will eventually need to be able to take the ball earlier which can help make up for an inherent lack of power.
Volleys need work but that is a technical correction you can make.
The bad: It appears that the quality of your competetion is not good. Even if they are beating you now they won't help you get better. Its almost impossible to improve without real quality competetion.
High school tennis is notorious for taking good players and reducing them to mediocre at best. If you are serious about tennis then I would forget about school tennis and get into USTA tournament play. That is the only way to identify the weaknesses in your game that you won't see playing school players. Many or even most good players opt of high school tennis-its a black hole that many find hard to crawl out of.
Apparently you are working hard at tennis several hours a day. I would guess that most of that time is a waste. You really can't understand that until you actually put yourself in the hands of a true professional to be trained. If high school tennis is your goal then you should do fine. If you want something better then start a real training regimen with real coaches and real hitting opponents.
actually... I am a coach
EDIT : I went see the video again and just watched your opponent and I have to agree to slappano he is very weak compared to you... he is lazy with his feet, his form is ok, he doesn't have much of a shoulder turn, and those slices are just mid court sitters just waiting to be smacked, and those slices he hit gave you a lot of points, everytime he hit a slice you were able to come up and hit a winner or a winning point, so I agree when he says find better opponents
As far as criticism for you to get better I already posted comments on youtube, same screename...
Seinfeld is the greatest show ever
Nice post. The criticism was fair and just. A little easy on him, but I understand where you are coming from, you have a young son yourself. But you hit the nail on the head in your first sentence....the kid has the wrong attitude and is posting for all the wrong reasons.
Where is your son going to play? Good luck to him!!
The issue here is he takes everything personal. He has been told he has a nice game, good sound mechanics. But the tough love he gets he just fights back and does not understand the point. He plays with low avg, players and if he wants to get better, gotta play more tourneys and stop goofing off.
I told him in a post long ago. If he really is a player with only 9 months playing then he has tremendous upside, lots of skills. But his attitude is all wrong (at least on the forum). Coming out of the gate and telling people how great you are and claiming how great you are through video and then finding out he is playing hacks is something he did not bargain for. Lessoin learned.
It seems like you are getting a lot of harsh criticism compared to some of the other threads showing the OP’s strokes. This might be because you are pretty cocky, especially since you have to realize that you are, what 15?, talking to highly experienced tennis players, some of whom have been playing the game for how long you have been alive. When you are that brash and defensive at the same time, it’s pretty hard to critique your game. On the other hand, there are a couple posters who are pretty tough on the OP. I see no reason why this thread should die, all it is, is a thread asking for advice on tennis strokes. GWB: Your strokes are pretty good fundamentally. On your serve, you might want to go into the court more to get more pace. There is good spin/action but not enough power. Your forehand is a little bit too wristy and rushed. A loose wrist is good, but yours is almost floppy...you want to accelerate through your stroke without rushing and going almost full-out. You might also want to lay your wrist back longer and hit a little bit flatter and lower into the court. Your backhand is really good, considering that it is one-handed and you have been playing (according to what you have said, no reason to think otherwise...) less than a year. Although you might want to open up your chest and shoulders so that your non-dominant/free arm goes in the opposite direction like a whip snapping at the end by pulling back at the handle. Check out Gasquet’s backhand and Federer’s on youtube. Your volleys are the stroke, which needs the most work. Way to much swinging is going on, and on some of them, your racket face is opening up too much. You either want to punch your volleys – minimizing wrist action – low and deep into the court or hit a drop volley or a soft volley off to the side for a winner. Overheads look pretty good though you need to try to hit them in the air, even if the feeds are not optimal.
Your opponents look like they are all below your level. If you want to get better, get proper instruction and or hit with tennis players who are better than you.
totally agreed...he's too defensive and from my experience when someone's defensive something's up. It looks like he has to explain everything to the last detail (I mean reading through the thread I almost had the feel I was reading a diary or something - of so descriptive everything was...nonetheless).
This kid is 15 he sure does look good and he has some bases to get better and better, but as of now I don't think he's that good compared to the discussion around this thread, if he really wants to achieve a scholarship for tennis I say go for it but you need to get a coach... and keep practicing with QUALITY don't get mislead by the quantity sometimes it's counterproductive...
I wish I'd be your age now and try my luck with tennis for a college in United States (i'm not american as most of you probably already noticed) since it is my dream to attend a US College it still is... I didn't think of all my options back in senior year and now regret it, cuz I think I may have get a scholarship for Div 2 or maybe Div 1 (I say this because one of my partners got a scholarship from a college there Div I and is now playing there and we were about the same level).
Just curious by the way if I do an exchange year to some college and then try to aplly some kind of scholarship (scholastic or sports) is it possible in the middle of my degree and then I could transfer? I'm from Portugal actually...
"The zoo called, you're due back by six!" :lol:
so i was just wondering cos im not from the us, what ranking or rating would he be in the US?
I just think it's funny how he posted up a video of their "best" points and he only lost one of them...lol
Nice strokes, needs some work but good regardless...get some better practice partners...
Stop practicing with wimps and play with guys who are better than you, that's how you REALLY get better.
All your strokes are too long and too wristy - when I first saw the groundstroke video, I thought "Why is he playing on a hard court, looks like clay court strokes?" They will break down if you are put under any pressure. You don't have time to swing like that in a real match. You have excellent hand-eye coordination to hit them like that, but long term, you will have to smooth them out quite a bit if you want to be successful at all in junior tennis. You need major help on your volleys - above all, you must eliminate the big backswing and control your wrist. Also, you didn't hit any overheads in the air, and were given only short sitters to hit, so I can't judge the effectiveness of your overheads, but since you weren't aggressive, it didn't show me much. Your first serve has some good points, good slice and OK body movement. You need to get your lower body more stretched and again, reduce the wrist in the stroke (you want to snap it at impact, but moving it all around in the rest of the stroke just leads to inconsistancy). I do like your second serve much more than the first. Your serve will improve just with getting older and stronger, so that is a part of your game you can build on.
As others have said, you must play better competition. In none of the videos did your opponent ever hit a forcing shot at you. Right now you are at lower level high school tennis. This isn't bad for 15 years old, as you have three more years to get better. However, in order for you to reach your potential, you need to significantly improve your groundstrokes (as well as, of course, get some kind of net game) as their current incarnation will hold you back from getting past a certain point. To see what you need to do, it would be best to go to a good pro. In order to try to work it out yourself, without a pro, you will have to play matches where you are pressured by strong opponents, and learn how to make the adjustments you find are necessary. Right now you can rally when people hit the ball in the middle of the court, but that is about it.
I'm a borderline 4.0 (confirmed by teaching pros), but your hitting partner is at best a very weak 3.5...more likely a 3. He reacts about 2 seconds too late to every shot and put no pressure on you what-so-ever. The best thing you can do is find players who is at least slightly better than you to play matches against.
I spent about 10 years playing friends who were weak 3.0's during summers and beating them badly, because my serve and forehand were out of their league. I thought I was pretty good, and so did they.
Then I put ads on Craig's list and started playing real tennis players....good 3.5's, 4.0's, and even 4.5's, and I realized how weak my game really is. I spent about the last 2 years losing 80% of my matches. Now I'm at about 50%, and hoping to do better this summer. Bottom line, the videos you posted are against a weak player that any decent 3.5 will beat. Not an insult, you're better than I was at your age...I probably was the guy on the other side of the net at 15.
out of curiosity, what animal am I?
at the very least, the kid giot to hear some tough nose criticism. His game is not at the level he thinks and hopefully he learns from this. Biggest issue is overconfidence. Good luck to the young man!
Yea, I'd love to see Drak wipe the floor with him. He'd be like "oh this old guy is probably just a pusher" then Drak throws a 100 mph serve up the T on him x_X.
yeah, that western grip on your forehand is a real problem.I noticed that your hitting partner managed to get one ball deep and you had to run 10 feet behind the baseline to deal with it.
I advise you to very gradually rotate the handle in your hand over the next months to a less extreme grip, other wise a flat hitting player capable of hitting with depth, even one with no real power, will kill you.
It depends, some players can deal with the flat ball with the western grip, some can't. For example Djokovic and Nadal.
Why are you saying this? The Western grip is capable of handling low balls and certainly flat balls. Although I agree that the Western grip is not the "best" grip in the world and prefer a SW, the implications of your words above are much to finite regarding the Western grip.
I think it's a common grip among juniors, as the western grip's higher contact point coincides with their lower height. I remember when I was younger I used to hit western grip, and pretty much haven't changed that much, I have a semi-western, but it's leaning towards more western (strong semi western, similar to Roddick and Robredo).
groundstrokes are alright.... I mean its pretty slow paced. You have a lot of time to set up I don't see why anyone should miss and of those perfectly placed balls.
Yes, but he cannot handle low balls with a western grip.It was kind of a white lie, seeing as he hasn't been playing for that long I reasoned that it isn't too late for him to gradually transition to something more reasonable, like a strong semiwestern.
The problem I have with the full western is that when the ball is low, deep and skidding, if you are forced to hit it slightly late you will be forced to hit quite a weak shot.
You're pretty good but you use your excuses too much.
Regardless of whether i play a year or 50 years of tennis, if i am good, i am good. Saying that just shows a viable excuse to fall on if you get hit with harsh criticism.
Secondly, your hitting partners, as others have mentioned, are pretty sub-par compared to you. THey don't make any effort to get to the ball, or back to the center of the court.
Lastly, why do you bobble your head? I found it quite distracting the whole time i watched a video.
No complaints. One comment: I don't know your height, but if it is what I think it is from the video, I would consider standing a bit farther from the net when playing the net as you will be lob fodder for anyone with a hint of touch.
just me... or does his second serve look better than his first?
Massive joke you've only played for 1 year, amazing. Too good mate too good.
Your serve looks a lot like Baghdatis.
Actually, I'm about the same as this guy. He probably hit around with his friends for about a year (As I did, no instruction, just played for fun), and then picked up private lessons and got to this level.
Side note- I saw your tag said Cy-Fair, as in Cy-Fair Texas? If so we're pretty close, and prepared to get killed by Clear Lake.
After watching all your videos and reading most of your comments/replies, are you sure you're actually looking for critiques here and not just compliments?
Well, truth is truth, you have an amazing forehand. Even though your backhand is different, since there's really no "right" way in my book, as long as it works for you then it's good.
I would add that it seems you are rushing a bit too much on your strokes and your serves. Maybe this is just your playing style but it just seems to me like you should take your time on shots more.
Ok, after rewatching your matchplay video one more time, I notice that you also use an open stance a lot. Being a lefty, you should step into the ball with your right leg and transfer all your weight to your right foot on the shot. I didn't notice this before since I was looking at your strokes and you have a fast enough racquet-head speed that your shots look good. It's just something i noticed; I'm not telling you to change your stance or anything since it's working for you.
It's just that stepping in would result in more power and consistency because your whole body is providing power naturally when you step in as well as guiding the ball. An open stance would mean that you're providing most of the energy with your arm and guiding the ball with your wrist.
I did not take private lessons. And, Clear Lake? The only school that would "kill us" would be Katy Taylor. They have like 3 superchamps on JV T_T.
Others would beat us but not "kill us" And we only have district left, and clear lake is not in our district. Who revived this thread anyway? I thought I left it to rot.
Hey, don't listen to these folks that say get back further from the net. Maybe a half step at most, that you can use as u close in on the volley. Most people make the mistake of being further back like they tell u to do and they can't volley well at all in matches. They are so scared of being lobbed, but you can hit at their feet. That's also why they say u swing too much on the volley, because they can't when standing back in first volley position, but u can when you are tight to net like you were. 1st volley position is just a transition shot, but most players never finish the transition and get on into net where the are supposed to finish.
With your speed and quickness you want to invite the lob, as you can just get back and pound that nice overhead of yours! Most people miss or leave their lobs short anyway.
I did like the suggestion for you to think of hitting thru 4 balls to hit thru the ball more.
good job and keep it up!
Yeah, I took the "imagine hitting through 4 balls instead of 1" to heart and I have been hitting a whole lot better. It took awhile because I use the WW forehand technique, but i'm hitting alot more flat, despite my semi-western ALMOST full western grip
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