[VIDEOS] All of GWB's Tennis Game [VIDEOS]

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  1. Mansewerz

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    Being that close to the net and having a full on followthrough similar to an overhead decreases your timing at a position already tight on time.

    Look at Sampras' volleys

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=N6E3vPigzxI
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=9kGLfAaun_E

    Brief and concise follow throughs. Smash volleying it only decreases control, increased the chance of hitting/swinging over the net giving your opponent the point, and decreasing reaction time for the next shot.
     
  2. Bundey

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    GWB, did you model your serve off of Baghdatis?
     
  3. junbumkim

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    Unless your volley / overhead drills were meant to just knock off volleys while standing right in front of the net and ripping ground overhead one after another, it's unproductive.

    You should look to hit volleys from service line or look to close in from the baseline. Also, you should try to take overheads out of the air, not letting them bounce. But as I said, I am not sure what the purpose was, so..

    Everything looks pretty good. But I would recommend reducing backswing size on the volleys. Maybe you were just working on hammering the slow balls? But you should work on shortening the backswing and work on using your feet.

    Groundies look fine. Maybe make your 1 bh backswing more compact?
     
  4. Gee Willikers Batman!

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  5. 5263

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    You see these comments on volleys. That's one reason no one can volley these days. These guys are just saying what their pros tell them everyday (or what they overhear from a teaching pro somewhere) as they blow volleys in practice and matches. The Pro never gets to the real attacking volley, cause most students never get the 1st volley position down, therefore the pro mistakenly never even teaches the REAL volley.

    After a generation of this, we now have coaches that don't even realize that they don't teach anything past the 1st volley cause that is so much the norm! It's like trying to teach Roddicks 140 mph serve and never working on the second serve till you get the 1st serve down. Well guess what, the second serve is much more important than the first, so work on it more. Not only will the second serve get better, but the first will improve along with a quality second serve! Volleying is the same way. Yes, work on the first volley some, but work more on the attacking volleys much more and at least know they exist and what the difference is! These folks talk as though the 1st volley is the only volley!

    I have to deal with this bad info daily with students and doubles partners who just don't understand the fundamentals of the volley sequence.

    The First volley is just one subset of volleying and not even truly a volley as it is part of the transition game, therefore a dumbed down volley to try and get into TRUE volley position which is tighter to the net! Mansewerz throws out those 2 serve and volley vids where Pete never gets past 1st volley position and close into the net.

    He needs to watch a REAL volleyer like Rafter who serves slower and gets closer to the net for the first volley, which is more aggressive, then then comes on in tight and busts some AGGRESSIVE volleys and overheads.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=P69MpNKQ2ZA not perfect sequences, but the 1st i looked at and they make my point I think.

    I loved Sampras too, but without the best 2ond serve in the game, he would never have survived as a volleyer without great improvement in that area. I think he would have gotten better if he had to, but face it, much of his game lagged since he did not have to get better.
     
  6. 5263

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    Big Tennis Myth
    Everyone keeps telling you to play better players. YES and NO!

    Yes you have to play better players to expose certain weakness, but you should spend part of your time with weaker players, as well as most of your time with players about your level.

    With the weaker player you must have tons of work ethic to focus on things you need to work on, like footwork, balance and control, but this is a great chance to improve while focusing on you and not your opp. If you are lazy and can't work against them, you won't ever be very good.

    Most of your work with peers about your level, is again a chance to work on what u do, but with good challenge from your opponents. Work on dominating these matches so that they become your new group of weaker opps.

    You must need to play about 20-30% of your time against better players, but with purpose in mind again. You must learn to bring YOUR game to bear against this player and NOT develop a bunch of bad habits due to being under the gun when you are over your head and not going to win. You need to learn to get on balance and prepare your racket earlier as well as construct points. You need to see how consistant you can be with your rally, mid court attacks and volleys, even if this only gets you a game or 2, or to a rare duce.

    I see so many adults and Jrs who can't hardly beat anybody, but they think they look pretty good losing to real good players. They don't really look that good, but it's better than how bad they look losing to weak players so they avoid that for sure and think the weak player is bringing them down. I guess the weaker player is coming around and grabbing their stick.

    These are the people who futher the Myth of trying to play so often against better players, as this is the only way they can feel good about their tennis (or their childs) outing. Sorry for you who the shoe fits on this one, but that's how it is.
    How many people do you hear crying about how they can't beat pushers??
    See, you know what I mean.
     
  7. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Nice post(s) 5263.
     
  8. Gee Willikers Batman!

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  9. Djokovicfan4life

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    This proves nothing other than the fact that there are other people besides you who feel the need to lie about how long they've been playing.
     
  10. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Lol? Okay buddy.
     
  11. mmeyer1

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    Dude thats that taco guy from youtube. He is insanely good for 3 years, but he's had coaching judging from the videos, so I wouldn't doubt him.
     
  12. Hot Sauce

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    Looks pretty solid. I can believe that you've only been playing for for a year. And take it as a compliment if someone doesn't believe it.
    I love how you have your own cameraman who chews chips very loudly :)
     
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    love scrambled eggs !!

    I hate walking over to Daniel's house though.


    keep up the good work !
     
  14. zapvor

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    pretty good. only saw the tiebreak though. where is this? nice courts
     
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    Here are some things I noticed from your matchplay. Hard to tell what level you are at as you are not given any competition. I would like to see you play someone who can hit the ball harder to take time away from you, force you to hit on the run and hit defensively. At the moment he is just giving you balls you can tee off on all day long. You take huge rips at the ball and playing someone who hits heavier balls you may need to shorten your swing or you will struggle. It has been mentioned already but your strokes look quite rushed instead of looking really fluid. This is where I can see signs that you have only been playing for a year or so. Your footwork is quite bouncy and hyperactive looking and can be smoother. It looks like it takes more energy than it should and you may tire in a long match but good job on keeping on your toes. Your hitting partner really needs to work on this for his recovery.

    As I said before I would like to see you play someone who challenges you and see how you react to that. At the moment you don't need to think strategically at all or mix up your shots.

    On the issue of lobbing. At your level you can probably get away with standing so close to the net but in college you can't. People rip the ball very hard where you have no time to react and can quickly lob you and follow up to the net and close. I play for D3 and the only players who stand close to the net are the bottom of the team, the ones that don't play but just practice. You can get close to the net by closing on volleys meaning that you start further back and gradually move in as you hit volleys though.

    On the issue of how long you have played, well if you have played for a year then all the power to you and congratulations on your hard work paying off. To me though it doesn't matter how long you have played but where you are at now and where you need to be. That is pretty much the purpose of these kinds of threads.

    Anyways good job on what you have so far. You have a good foundation and solid mechanics to build from. Good luck on your improvement and I hope you can get a college scholarship. You have a long way to go. Keep us posted on your progress.
     
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  16. vince916

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    Very nice. You would probably be top 5 varsity at my old hs.
     
  17. chopstxnrice

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    hey i noticed the "cy-fair" tag in the youtube video. Interesting because i graduated from cy-fair high school 3 years ago, and played varsity tennis there :)
     
  18. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    That's cool. Mind giving me your name? What position did you play?




    Sorry I have not been replying to everyone. I thought the thread died.

    As for improvement, I have changed so much.

    1. Serve is much more relaxed and I take my time. The dropping of the racket isn't so close to my body.

    2. Semi-Western leaning to Full Western is now a stationary Semi-Western for good. I hit alot more flat when I want to but can generate alot of topspin.
    (Forehand of course)

    3. THE BIGGEST THING! I have changed back to a 2HBH after my district tournament which the #1 seed RIPPED apart. I realized it is good to rally with and play 3.5's and below, but when it gets too competitive it falls apart. My 2H'er shanks alot more but I am working on it every day.

    4. Forehand is not so.. "whippy". It's not really whippy to begin with, but it's much more fluent.

    5. Kind of same as #4, but my overall game I am much more relaxed, with active footwork mind you, but I feel it helped my game.

    6. And most importantly - I look at the ball ALOT longer. (All the way until the ball LEAVES my racket)


    I would post more videos but apparently no one wants to see them. :-?

    - GWB
     
  19. hyogen

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    post more videos so we can RIP them apart :D

    j/k. so your #1 seed ripped apart your 1hbh?

    lets' see the vids
     
  20. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Yeah, the #1 seed not at my school, but in the whole district ripped apart my 1h'er. The score was 2-6 2-6. I don't have videos of district, I just have new videos of my serve, my 2H'er and volleys. And I don't think you guys want to see them.. Well if you do, i'll try and post them tomorrow night. The camera is at daniels house and I am going to his house tomorrow to play.
     
  21. mmeyer1

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    dude your 1hbh was good, it just needed to be simplified a little bit. But hey if your 2hbh is more solid then theres nothing I can say to keep you from switching back
     
  22. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    That's what I thought, but when it kept getting picked on, it got blown away and I couldn't hit anything. Maybe it was the player (The #1 seed was incredible) but still.

    Maybe I should get a video of both my 2h and 1h and see what you guys think I should pick..
     
  23. mmeyer1

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    My forehand is the same way, I have a long complex motion and I frame a lot and hit late, so people tend to pick on it, but its only helped my forehand get slightly better over time so its a blessing in disguise. You know sampras used to get his ass handed to him in his junior days when he made the switch to the 1hbh, so these things take time before it can become a reliable shot.
     
  24. TennisProdigy

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    I wanna see some 2hers.
     
  25. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I'll try to get a video up tomorrow night. It is scheduled to rain tomorrow though :/
     
  26. chopstxnrice

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    Justin. Coach McClure still there right? See if she remembers me. I played #1 doubles and #2 or 3 singles, can't remember.
     
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    justin pham
     
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    What if you play someone rips apart your 2h bh just like that guy did to your 1h bh?
     
  31. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    My new 2h'er is pretty solid. It just doesn't feel natural to me.


    That 2h bh video i posted last night is about 3 months old. BEFORE I switched to 1H.
     
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    That first backhand was very nice, the rest were just OK.
     
  34. 35ft6

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    Nah, he's been playing for longer. GWB isn't the only guy that does this. Most of the people who post here talk about how they were tired, hadn't touched a racket in 20 years, or was getting used to their new artificial heart or something when they post, so in that regard, he's no worse than most people (although he's going for the double excuse of 6 hours of practice and less than one year of playing). But this is GWB's first post:
    Pretty opinionated for somebody who only first touched a racket a couple of months previous.

    I'd say he's been playing with this family since he was a kid. But rationalizes the one year comment by telling himself he's only taken it "seriously", like told himself he wants to play in college, for about a year.

    Anyway, everything looks fine except for maybe the backhand. It's looking shaky, and against stronger hitters, it looks like it could easily break down. Create a more stable base. And like most juniors, your footwork looks a bit sloppy, so really work hard on the footwork because unless you hit a growth spurt, your game, especially in college (and you should be able to make most non-top 25 D-3 teams even if you see no action for the first year or two) is going to have to be predicated on consistency and speed.
     
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  35. 35ft6

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    Your two hander looks more stable and less likely to break down than your one-hander. Obviously, you'll need to work on it to make it perform well in a real match against a decent opponent, so it's a matter of if you're willing to take some nasty losses in order to be better in a year or so.
     
  36. counter_puncher

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    just had to watch your old strokes again. like it how your serves are linked to "the gayest tennis serve"
     
  37. njjohan

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    any idea how fast your serve is?
     
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    Don't bother posting here anymore. The guy ran off cause he couldn't handle the people here.
     
  40. baselinerT

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    Cool we're both lefties. But yeah, your serve and volleys are very simple, at least your serve is which is good. I also notice you like to kick your foot up after you do your split-step to get to a ball and that you like to flip your raquet a lot when you bring your raquet back which I think will just make things more complicated because if someone hits the ball deep, by the time you start swinging you push the ball back by flipping your wrist since you'll be hitting late. These are only minor things, please don't change your strokes because of this.
     
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    this guy is a wanker. note... Last Activity... Today.
     

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