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  1. OTMPut

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    QF at WO was the highest, losing to the winner Kodes.

    I am told it was a depleted field due to a boycott or strike.
     
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    Nice thread. Thanks to Krosero for uploading that video in the OP. In 1974, Amritraj was viewed as a possible future star, along with players such as Borg and Connors (Connors and Borg less so were already at the top of the game by 1974). Vijay Amritraj was probably the best Indian player ever. India has also produced the Krishnans, Paes, and Bhupathi through the years. He's very nice in person. I got a chance to meet him when I was about 10 at a WCT event many years ago and then just a couple of years ago, I got his autograph again at a exhibition here in Houston. I was glad to be able to tell him that I thought he was the greatest Indian player ever. He was very cordial and it was an honor to meet him. He was a crowd favorite due to his style of play. All the players respected his sportsmanship and how he carried himself on court. He was a gentleman out there.
     
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    He played twice the USO QF, in 73 and 74 and twice the Wimbledon QF, 73 and 81.This last year, lost in a memorable five setter against Jimmy Connors.

    Played a few WCT Finals but never got beyond his first match.

    One of the three guys to beat Mc Enroe in 1984, the others being Lendl and Wilander.
     
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    My my! Sounds like a GOAT contender to me, based on h2h :D
     
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    What a difference rackets make! The serves in the video are like my serves on a good day, and my strokes have more top spin and power. I think as I am today, I could have given both these guys a hard time (if I could have used my modern racket).
     
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    I don´t think so.They´d beat you up and down and left and right.I had the same feeling watching the test pilots driving a Bugatti Veyron.Those guys were pros and among the best .
     
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    He beat all the great names of the Golden Era at least once ( bar Lendl).Connors,Mc Enroe,Borg,Newcombe,Ashe,Rosewall,Laver,Nastase...
     
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    I don't know about the analogy so I cannot comment on it.

    And I don't find it heroic to come in on every serve and be passed half the time. Seems like a fail strategy to me.
     
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    He beat Borg though! Seems like a good strategy.
     
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    Did you see Borg serving in the clip? He was crushing the ball.

    Court level cameras will give you a different perspective.
     
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    You clearly are underrated. You should go pro.

    You'll never know if you don't try, as they say.
     
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    Amritraj was being passed because he was leaving his serves and groundies short, not because he was coming in. You should know this if you play tennis and ever stray from the baseline.
     
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    Vijay's acting career was mercifully brief, after giving one of the most wooden performances in cinema history, in the Bond film "Octo*****."
     
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    To get passed, you have to come in, by definition. What else you do or don't do is a different matter.
     
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    Hopefully, Leander Paes' acting career will be mercifully brief as well, going by his performance in a movie that I watched.
     
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    what a cruel death whatsoever
     
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    yes, the ATP ordered people to boycott it.But had it happened 5 yrs later, I am positively sure there would have been AT MOST 10% of defections.

    Not nice to admit it but guys such as Ashe,Newcombe and Drysdale, who are very decent and likeable people, just had such a totalitarian vision those days...

    ATP became such a joke with each passing day, you know.
     
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    didn't sundstrom beat mac in davis cup?
     
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    right, my mistake.Not Wilander, but Henrik Sundstrom.
     
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    You probably could play 3 sets against either of these guys and never succeed at actually hitting the ball in the center of the strings.

    I don't think the racket would help you return the clean aces, the amount and variation of the spin on the ball would confuse you (Borg groundies, Vijay's serve), you would have little time to even swing at the ball with the ball coming at you so quickly from close to the net, the placement deep near the lines or short drop volleys would have you not knowing which way to run - which you couldn't do well anyway on the slick grass, and a very big factor is that if you tried to take your normal full swing on that chewed up grass, you would probably whiff a lot of balls and be lucky to hit the frame.

    Remember, for good serve and volley play you only serve at 3/4 pace with a lot of spin so you can get closer to the net.

    Guys played that way because it was optimal for the conditions. They moved gradually to graphite rackets since it did help their games, but changing rackets didn't make anyone leap over the other pros in the rankings.
     
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    In a way, Vijay reminded me of Victor Pecci, both so smooth and inspired, prone to mistakes and a rare combination of raw power and uncanny finesse and touch.They belong to the league of the Mecir, Panatta and others
     
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    I used to watch Armitraj work out at the club I worked at in the 1980s. He was a big, powerful guy. That video shows his touch, but what I remember watching him was how he crushed the ball with his ground strokes.
     
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