Violence used on the court! Can't believe it!

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  1. NadalDramaQueen

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    True, what is the point of spending hours and hours at the gym if you can't lay out a jerk every now and then. :)

    Unfortunately, you have to sit there and take it and your only retaliation is to call the police if you want to stay out of trouble yourself.

    Sorry that everyone doesn't live in the hood and that the police in our area care about light assault situations. This is the world we live in, adults shouldn't hit other adults.

    Big talk. From what I see the people who are so quick to fly off their rockers are the same people who wouldn't last very long if law and order were to break down. They do things like throw around water bottles knowing that they are relatively safe from getting severely beaten in retaliation.
     
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  2. scotus

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    Prince Exo3 Tour: a great weapon for those with tennis elbow. After all, it's only a tad stiffer than a water bottle.
     
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  4. NLBwell

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    The OP wasn't hit. He was impacted by a plastic water bottle.
    A punch would be different.
     
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  5. NadalDramaQueen

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    I disagree that a punch would be different. From what I read in the OP the bottle was full of water. Getting hit in the right area with about a pound of water could hurt, at the very least.

    Anyway, I will amend my statement to read that adults shouldn't attack other adults with their fists or otherwise. I hope that is general enough for you. :) If the police are too busy fighting serious crime, I'm sure they will put the water bottle attacks off until they finish.
     
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  6. Big_Dangerous

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    Yeah I can understand being a little upset about getting pegged with an errant ball when you are just unpacking your bag, but to charge randomly at someone you think did it and to throw your water bottle at them is beyond ridiculous.
     
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  9. NLBwell

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    A water bottle thrown at the body is not going to break your jaw, smash in your eye socket, give you a concussion, knock you out, or give you permanent brain damage (especially if your head hits the floor while you are unconcious), all of which a good punch could do.
     
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  10. martini1

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    That is NOT true at all. The force was equal to a punch - not a jab, but a punch. The bottle is made of hard plastic and full of water. It will break your nose if it is throw right at your face with some force.

    You do not seem to understand what the common law addresses. Unless you are a little kid, if you think using an object to attack somebody is far less serious than a fist attack, you are in some serious misconception.

    Permanent injuries are only justified in a civil court when damages are measured. An mere attack in force, no matter how small, is still an attack in a criminal court.
     
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  11. max

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    This is all starting to devolve into kindergarten.
     
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  12. NLBwell

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    So how many years in jail is appropriate? How many hours of police time, prosecutor time, judges time, clerk's time, etc. is appropriate to be spent on this?
    Should the kid who hit him with a tennis ball be prosecuted also? Maybe assault, criminal negligence, or some such thing? I assume that you think at least a civil suit is appropriate. It is certainly more likely that someone could have a serious injury from getting hit by a tennis ball hit by a racket than a water bottle thrown at the body (I've seen someone lose a significant portion of his sight in one eye permanently from a THROWN tennis ball). Do you believe the guy hit by the tennis ball should have called the police on the kid? It is possibly more serious than being hit by a water bottle.

    Having the guy thrown out of the group is appropriate.

    Geez, not every little thing should be a criminal matter.
     
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  13. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    How come you didn't tell him to chill out? Not like the ball was going all that fast...
     
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    You're quite the odd fellow. You will admit that permanent damage can be done by a thrown tennis ball but not by a thrown bottle full of water.

    Just admit it, you're the one who flipped out and threw the bottle when a tennis ball touched you on your back. :)

    Judging by your posts, you are not a lawyer and certainly not a physicist, so what exactly is at stake for you here? The OP responded fairly well, he didn't take a swing at the guy and he didn't call the police, so relax. If you are worried about you losing your cool on the courts and getting in trouble with the police, perhaps you should look into that now as a preventative measure.
     
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  15. NLBwell

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    Yes, I'm anti-lawyer.
    I'm assuming you would have hired an ambulance chaser to sue somebody. Maybe the guy, the kid, the kid's parents, and the tennis facility.
    I don't have a problem with the OP's actual actions. Others have said they would have called the police.

    So, do you think the guy should have called the police on the kid who hit him with the ball?

    I just cry for our society that any little thing is solved by going to court.
     
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  16. martini1

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    I let u ask those questions to the judge. You can't win this.
     
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  17. martini1

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    Before anything can be said the bottle was already flying my way. I think it is way beyond just telling him to chill after that.
     
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  18. martini1

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    Who said anything about suing and lawyers?
     
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    AS a lawyer, I kinda resent this.

    LAwyers cannot and will not chase clients.
    It costs you your license.
    Up till about 1972, (Bates and O'Steen v. AZ)
    they couldn't even put an ad in the yellow pages.
    Ah well, we are evil and actually go out and force people off the street to come into our offices and hold a gun to their head until they sign an atttorney client contract.

    These types of "cases" are what we call "hurt feelings" cases. NO lawyer in his right mind takes them, even if the potential client drops $5K on the table and agrees to pay hourly rate instead of contingent. Only possible exception - "Hollywood" stuff, where Mel Gibson slaps somebody, and those kooks, plaintiff's lawyers, defendant's lawyers, plaintiffs, defendants, Judges who even let the case get to trial, are all cukoo.

    Best choice of all, I think, was the destroy his property and pour the water bottle into what was left of his bag after I was done with it. (I'm pee-shy, so the urination option isn't there, as well as the sight of my urination tool causing a riot amongst the female clinic participants)
     
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  20. martini1

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    Umm... it is very unusual for a lawyer to suggest something like this.

    But in the heat of the moment I doubt most of you would have a cool head to just pour water into somebody's bag, or have time to pee. Especially if you are not sure what the aggressor would do next. If you are not prepared to fight, you may be heading down the wrong path...
     
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  21. spinorama

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    Lmao

    "Yes officer, that's him over there. He threw his water bottle at me, thank god you got here fast."

    That seems ridiculous to call the cops for this man. Why didn't you just say "what the **** are you doing man, it was him and it was an accident. " that will make him look dumb and apologize.
     
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  22. amorris525

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    I would have said let me serve a ball at you while you stand on the baseline with your back facing the court or else leave right now. He thought you hit him and punished you accordingly in his mind, so you should get the chance to actually hit him. Fair is fair.
     
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  23. Steady Eddy

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    That class sure got off to a bad start!

    That guy must have felt really foolish when he found out: 1) he retaliated at the wrong guy, 2) that it was an accident in the first place.

    Don't get the police involved. Yeah it sucks, but people do dumb stuff all the time. He lost his temper and acted reflexively. Now you're mad, but remember he must feel humiliated. Let's just hope he learned something from this.
     
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