Volkl C10 Pro Tour -- easy to swing -- easy to love

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by kinsella, Jan 28, 2006.

  1. kinsella

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    I never tried this stick out, because I was frightened by the high swingweight and the comments about how heavy it was. Then I did a post asking for suggestions for sub-95, 12 oz, 16 main sticks and many suggested I try it. So I did.

    OMG. From the first game I served with it, my serve picked up for accuracy, speed and spin. Volleys stayed low and penetrated. I could come over hard serves with my one handed backhand and get great dip if the server came in, good length if he stayed back.

    In every aspect, I found it maneuverable and easy to swing. It is easier to swing the my beloved PT280s, whose swingweight is listed around 325 while the C10 PT is listed at 339.

    I was lucky enough to find a brand new one and a barely used demo to go with my first well-used C10 PT, so now I have 3. If my bubble doesn't burst after 4-6 weeks, some well cared for PT 280s will be on the market.

    OK, its kind of ugly and has no Kevlar, but nothing's perfect.
     
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  2. louis netman

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    Please email me if your bubble bursts...
     
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  3. Richie Rich

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    yup, the c10PT was a much better racquet than the reg c10, IMO. liked it much better than the prestige mid series racquets. mine were fatigued a couple years ago and haven't been able to find anything similar since.
     
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  4. wlinchon

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    Hang on. The original C10 and the C10 Pro Tour are different? How?

    I remember there was another posting of different C10s (the original German ones, and the Designed in Germany), I don't recall anyone clarifying if there were any differences even amoung them.

    And where are they made now?

    Thanks
     
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  5. Richie Rich

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    orig c10 = 98sq inch head
    c10 PT = 93 sq inch head
     
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  6. wlinchon

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    Wasnt there a Comp-Series C10, designed in Germany, that was 93 sq inches? Is that similiar to the C10 PT then?
     
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  7. kreative

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    the c10 pro tour was the mid (93"). the c10 pro was the midplus (98").
     
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  8. kinsella

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    The head size is only the beginning. The C10 Pro Tour has a 19mm beam, while the C10 Pro has 20 mm beam. The Tour has a 61 flex vs. 63 for the Pro. They weight about the same, but the Tour is a point less HL. The C10 Pro lists Kevlar in its makeup, but I have not seen it listed in the Pro Tour version. They really are two completely different racquets with similar names and cosmetics.

    In play, I found the C10 Pro head flexed and torqued in a way I did not care for, while the C10 Pro Tour head does not twist much. It is as close as I have come to a 16 main ROK so far.

    You need to look hard to find them anymore. I think Tennis ****** can find a few more brand new ones. I searched high and low and found two in his stock. He is somewhat abrasive to deal with, but honest.
     
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  9. AndyC

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    I was lucky enough to find two new ones on that famous auction site a year ago. They are now my sticks of choice though I also carry both the mid and midplus Prestige Tours as well. If I could find more C10 PTs I'd buy them in an instant.
     
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  10. wlinchon

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    So which version of the C10 started it all?

    So the beloved version of the C10, the one that started the ardent fans, was the C10 PT?

    That makes me think of another question. Would anyone know if when the C10 first came out, the one Made in Germany, was it an instant hit or was it the later incarnations that developed a following? I dont mean to hark on the German or Designed in German models but, for those out there collecting, or wanting to know the history of the racquet, whats the story?

    And what about other racquets? Did the Pro Staff develop a following off the bat, when it was first an oversize made in Chicago, or when it was a midsize St. Vincent?

    The Dunlop Max 200G seems to have fans with the Pro (second in its history). Etc.

    Any comments would be appreciated.
     
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  11. kinsella

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    Andy -- email me on C10 PT sources.
     
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  12. emerckx53

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    You have mail!

    I am interested as well....3/8ths!
     
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  13. emerckx53

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    Quantum T10 93

    How does this relate to the C10 pt 93?
     
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  14. kinsella

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    If the Tour 10 mid is the same stick I hit a couple years ago, it has 18 mains. I am a different player today, so it is hard to compare it with the C10 PT, but the main difference is....
     
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  15. emerckx53

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    C10PT is 16x19?
     
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  16. kinsella

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    c10pt=16x19
     
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  17. mctennis

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    In use the C10 PT and also the C10 Comp. In answering some of the questions here. The C10 Comp is a 93 sq in head size like the C10 PT. The flex of the C10 PT is approximately 61 and the C10 Comp is around 59. I agree with kinsella about the C10 PT racquet. I find the C10 PT has great control from the baseline and also at the net. I find that the C10 PT is better at the net than the C10 Pro, the PT feels more solid with volleys. The C10 Comp has a lot of the same feel as the C10 PT. It is more flexy and I love the feel it has. I searched and demoed over 100+ racquets before settling on the C10 PT and the C10 Comp. My search is over for the perfect racquet. This is as close as I can get to it.
     
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  18. bigtt

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    MIke I see you still loved this racquets. do you know where can I find grommets on C10 Comp?

    Thanks,
    Nel
     
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  19. volklite

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    where can I find one of these 3/8s?
     
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  20. emerckx53

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    I just spent 2 days on the net trying to find some c10pt's and nothing showed up. Found a place that HAD them but connot get more......doesn't look good
     
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  21. kinsella

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    Bigtt -- I am told that you can still get grommets for the C10 PT. Apparently Volkl takes pains to keep a good stock of grommets even after a racquet is discontinued. My local shop felt confident they could get them.
     
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  22. armand

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    Many old racquets are available or become available like the 85, the PC600, POG and even the PS Tour90. So what's keeping the Volkl C10 Pro Tour from being resurrected? And why was it discontinued?
    And while I'm here, how does the racquet compare to those other classics and how does it compare to its successors?
     
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  23. kinsella

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    Adely:

    The C10 PT has a weight and balance similar to the various Pro Staff 6 series racquets. The flex is very different from the PS sticks: although the hoop flex is comparable, the throat of the Volkl is much more flexible. The C10PT is not much like the POG and is somewhat like an open pattern PC600, but lacks the Kevlar that made those old frames feel so solid. I cannot compare the Volkl it to the Tour 90.

    The sweet spot is generous and the fall-off is not sudden as you move away from an ideal hit. More forgiving than the 85 and 90 sq in sticks in your question. At 93 sq in, the C10 PT, is practically MP, so that its sweet spot is not surprising.

    I don't think the C10PT ever had the following of any of the resurrrected sticks you mention, so that I cannot imagine it being brought back.
     
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  24. 0d1n

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    Korda played with them ... that's enough for me :). I saw you kept wanting to compare the PT's with the DNX 10 mid's ...did you ever manage to make a playtest side by side ?
     
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