Volkl Cyclone (17 or 18) vs Tourna Poly Big Hitter Black 7 17

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  1. nikkhasnis

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    Anyone?

    Pricing seems funky. Single pack of Volkl is $7.99 vs Tourna $9.95

    But Tourna reel is $99.95 where as Volkl is $119.99 ie Tourna give much bigger discount while buying reel.

    Have Dunlop 4d 300 Tour. Played with Tourna Blue Rough 17 for over a year. Tried Cyclone 18 and absolutely love it. Strung at 52lbs. Hit only once though.

    On the TW string compare
    Tourna Black 17
    Stiffness: 175
    Energy return: 86
    Spin potential: 6.3
    Cyclone 18
    Stiffness: 181
    Energy return: 85
    Spin potential: 7.1

    So they are pretty similar. But do they play similar? On the Tourna Black packet, it indicates that the power is more than Silver but less than Blue. But I found the power of Cyclone to be more then Tourna Blue. So the numbers do not match.
     
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  2. dhdriver

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    I've hit with both in a Head Youtek Prestige Mid. When I first tried out Tourna Big Hitter Black 17 I loved the spin and power but the texture/shape of the string wore out really fast. The tension also dropped a lot too so the racquet began to just launch the balls out. That's just my own experience with it.

    Volkl Cyclone 18 is my go to string because even though it wears out after a while (a long time for me), the playability is still there. It feels like a stiffer Kirschbaum Pro Line II to me and I used to use that before I switched strings. I love Cyclone 18 and I am going to be using it in my new Yonex frames. Cyclone 18, to me, was just a better overall string.
     
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  3. Bhagi Katbamna

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    Anyone know how Cyclone compares to Becker Bomber NYC(or just plain Bomber).
     
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  4. Sander001

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    Also love Cyclone18! And what a coincidence; my next string to try is Big Hitler Black 17 too! Will report laters.
    Also, the TW data shows that Cyclone18 has better tension maintenance and that BHB717 has more dwell time.

    edit: I must add that the bench tests are often very different from field[court] testing. I could go on for ages about how something turned out much different than the numbers. Having said that, I still believe there's great value in the numbers for getting a starting point and an idea of what to expect. And sometimes, the numbers are right on the money too.
     
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  5. nikkhasnis

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    Hi Sander,

    Let me know the difference between Cyclone and Tourna Black 17. If Cyclone performs much better, I will not spend $18 on stringing the Black 17.

    What tension are you stringing the Cyclone at? I normally string the Tourna Blue Rough 17 at 50lbs. Since cyclone is thinner, i upp the tension to 52lbs. Still feels nice and soft @52.
     
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  6. Hi I'm Ray

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    I much preferred cyclone as it had a much more controlled & predictable response, with tons of spin. bhb7 17 was super soft & stretchy, vague & extremely low on feedback, and felt a bit unpredictable. bhb7 edges out cyclone in terms of spin but was one of the few strings I cut out because I couldn't stand using it anymore. If I ever HAD to use bhb7 again I would choose the 16g version and cross it with a very crisp and firm poly.
     
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  7. Backhanded Compliment

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    Cyclone 18 is the best returning string Ive ever used. If it had a more linear response Id still be using it. Some people dont want linear power response, I do (playing an 18x20 prestige is another hint that I value consistent response... Cyclone is a great open pattern baseliner's string).
     
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  8. Sander001

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    No, no, you should still see it for yourself. We could be using very different racquets, have very different styles etc. We're already using very different tensions: I strung it @ 60lbs and next time I will string it 61/55. I strung BHB717 @ 58/53.
    Racquet choice is also important[I'm using 12.5oz 90sq" frame].
     
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  9. Sander001

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    BHB717 is quite excellent, I really like it. Strung @ 58/53lbs and have put in 4hrs total this week[only doubles]. Pretty similar to Cyclone18 but Cyclone seems to have more control, less power and a bit more spin. The extra power from BHB7 is very nice on the volley, especially that first transition volley in midcourt.
    I am very curious how it holds up through more hours.
     
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  10. garytan68

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    Any with any feedback on tension maintainence after few hours?
     
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  11. Doubles

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    BHB7 has pretty solid tension retension. Even after 6-8 hours the string plays well. With cyclone it seems to vary from person to person. I found it okay, but that was playing with someone else's racket that had been hit with for 4+ hours, so I can't give a truly fair assessment.
     
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  12. Sander001

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    Hour 5 and wasn't happy with the BHB717; not enough control or spin. Went in the bag and got one with red Mosquito Bite that's also 5+ hours old. Same racquet, same exact tension[58/53] and liked the MB much, much more. Better feel, more ball pocketing, better control and more spin. The extra give also makes it feel like the racquet has a larger sweet spot.
    Perhaps BHB717 is better when brand new, but i need strings that will last more than 4hrs.
     
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  13. dhdriver

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    I agree with Sander001. After a few hours (like 4-5 hours) I couldn't hit with BHB7 17 anymore. IT just had loss a lot of control and the strings loss a lot of the spin potential as well. They felt amazing when fresh but they just weren't that great after a few hours.
     
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  14. porsche2

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    Hey! I just bought 3 sets of Cyclone 17 (and strung one up) and my go to string for about 7 months has been BHB7 17. I will be posting a comparison of the review soon. Here's a mini-version of it. So while it may not make MUCH of a difference, I strung Cyclone up at 45 while I normally string BHB7 at 40, but I'll probably be raising that now that it's getting warmer. So take that into account.

    Anyway, what I noticed was that Cyclone had more controlled spin while BHB7 was a little more unpredictable. The feel of Cyclone was crisper than BHB7. BHB7 seems to be a bit more springy (probably due to tension) but slightly less powerful. It also seemed to have a bit more power. On serves, I couldn't really tell a difference with power or spin. If I had to choose one, I would say the serves with Cyclone kicked up slightly more than with BHB7. Tension maintenance will go to Cyclone which also seems to keep it's shape better than BHB7 which seems to lose it's edges fairly quick (4-6 hours for me). Overall, Cyclone was slightly better but not enough to justify a $30 increase in price for a reel.
     
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    HAHA well obviously I wasn't thinking when I wrote that. I'm trying to think of a justification for what I just said but I believe it was out of pure stupidity. I meant that it was more powerful. Edit will be made lol
     
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    Too confuse things even further: I've been playing with Tourna Big Hitter Black 17 for some time. I recently tried Genesis Black Magic 17 and it plays and feels very similar to me.
     
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    $30 extra for the reel isn't bad. It's less than $2 a string job and I think you'd be getting a better string. Cyclone is one of the best poly's for the price that you can buy and as said before, it's a very consistant playing string for a poly.

    I've used it in 16x19 and 18x20 patterns and it plays well in both.

    Go for the Cyclone!!

    DH
     
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  19. dhdriver

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    I agree here. I've tested so many strings after using Cyclone and I always go back. It is amazing!
     
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    Cyclone x10
     
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  21. nikkhasnis

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    Strung the Cyclone 18 at 52lbs on 4th Feb. Absolutely f***ing loved it. By far the best string I have played with so far. Great spin and good power. And nice softness to it.

    But now after just over 1 month, it's no longer gripping the ball as much as it did and feels hard/stiff on hitting. Probably put in just 8 -10 hours of hitting time. Is that it? The Tourna Ble Rough went dead as well, but I could still hit for 3 months with it, as the playbility for me didn't go down a lot.

    Is 8-10 hours expected time for the Cyclone 18? Would changing tension help with durability? That's about 1 month for me, less than a month in summer. At $18 per stringing job, it turns a bit steep. Maybe get a stringing machine?? Would it be worth the cost and time?
     
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    Can anyone compare the durability and playability of the Cyclone 16 vs 17 ? I'd like to know if there is a significant difference. I usually break my current string (Cyber Flash 17) after 3-4 hours.
     
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