Volkl Cyclone Yellow vs pink vs black

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  1. TRVX1912

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    Are there any differences between each?
     
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    The pink one is im pretty sure is Cyclone "Tour" and its supposed to be softer on the arm.

    The black one is a little stiffer than the yellow and the pink
     
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    There is no difference between the black yellow or pink cyclone String. Volkl cyclone "tour" is a completely different string that has a twist in it and only comes in red.
     
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    I tried playing with the cyclone it was a little harsh But i loved how it played. I was just wondering if the yellow or pink was a little softer. I havent tried the tour yet
     
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    Try the tour.....its softer than the original and has more pop to it.
     
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    Have you extensively hit with all 3 of them, or are you just reading off the packet and guessing that they play the same?
     
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    From the TW Review:

    Chris - "Signum Pro Poly Plasma gets close in feel and MSV Co-Focus offers similar power, but both of those I hit in thinner gauges. In my book, Cyclone offers all the control and spin of Luxilon ALU Power Rough, but with slightly more comfort and at a much better price. I also find the pink version to have a tad more pop than the black Cyclone we tested."
     
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  9. neil1b

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    Used all three and have used cyclone for years...... They are just different colors.

    Its funny that people tend to think they play different because they want them to play different....

    Must be in the magic dye!
     
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    You couldn't have used them for years because the fluro yellow and pink was only released last year.

    And yes, different dyes can affect the characteristics of the string.
     
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    OK Mr Torres......I stated I have used cyclone for years........... I have tried both the pink and yellow and no dye does not change the string to a noticeable level. If you are that in tune to color dye changes.........you would have won the open this am.........
     
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    neil hows the graphene pro 2 weeks on
     
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    So let's get this story clear. Neil1b goes into the tennis shop and specifically orders the pink string, not so that he can match it to the color of his eyeliner and apparel, but just because he was to test his theory that there are no differences between colored strings and so that he can challenge TW Chris's view. Right okaaaay........
     
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    He said "noticeable". What may be noticeable to you, me, Chris, Spadea et al., may not be noticeable to him.
     
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  15. TRVX1912

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    I know there is a difference with dyes. But I went with my trusty solinco bite
     
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    It is pretty clear that different colors in the same string can produce a different playing string. Even the low level nylon string and strings like OG Sheep Micro are examples of this. If it is should be noticeable to most folks.. but not everyone. Just asking the questions means you are aware of the fact...sooo the answer in most cases is yes...it does make a difference. I am out.
     
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    No, but since you want to go there Torres........I have an account with volkl and have probably also a stringer......... A stringer that tries the strings that come out. I disagree totally with the others and if you, I'm guessing a wanna be pro tennis player that hides on the boards and yaps, had that much insight........surely the racquet and string companies would employ you and you great knowledge of tennis to help produce their products.

    Oh wait...... I must have hit a sore spot with the pink string as you probably were the one male that purchased the pink/black vapors to go with your knee socks ....... Toro! el Torres.

    PS Chris is a tennis player and an employee....... He is not the end all be all of reviewing string.
     
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  18. neil1b

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    Its still going great. I picked up a third used one of the boards strung with rpm blast at a lower tension. I will take it out tomorrow and let you know how it goes. The only downside I can see to the racquet is with the second serve. You need to work a little more to get the same kick, but I still think I need more time with it to adjust.

    I will experiment with different strings and tension when i get my forth and keep two the same to play in matches.
     
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    Funny.....I saw no differences in pro hurricaine white vs the blue they used to have.....as well as all the prince syn gut and sonic pro orange and black......

    If there was a difference the companies would jump all over the marketing and sell the different colors claiming it would help this creating area of your game.

    What's next? You will say the stencils the pros use cause the strings to play different.......
     
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    Faithfulfather...... Thanks you for reminding me not to waste my time with him. I will never get that time back. Its appreciated!
     
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    some times different colors play differently. for example blackcode and redcode play way differently, but strings like prince's syn gut in all the different colors like gold, white, and pink all play the same for me. It depends on the company.
     
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    No problem!
     
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  23. Faithfulfather

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    I agree 100%
     
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    Of course... thanks. There are so many postting talking about this... have to be just stupid it discount it. Out of there...
     
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    Sorry man.. you are clueless on this issue. Maybe use the search feature here and read a bit.
     
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  27. TRVX1912

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    ^LOL 10char
     
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    Of alk the sets of cyclone which do you rank as the best? I am really interested in the cyclone tour because of Chris ranks it at the same level as ALU Rough, which just so happens to be the string I am teying to get away from (my wallet is angry at me for using rough).
     
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    big hitter blue and big hitter silver also play differently.

    trust me guys its the dyes.
     
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    BHB and BHS definitely play differently though I'm not convinced that they're the same string. BHS is noticeably lower powered than BHB and less springy.

    The two different colored BBOs also play slightly differently. Again Chris from TW also shares that view.

    Haven't tried both colors myself but there are comments on these boards from a few people who say that the graphite and the yellow Yonex PTP play slightly differently.

    And those are just the polys.

    Everyone knows that there are quite a few nylons that definitely play differently between the different colors - primarily in terms of stiffness eg. Gosen Micro white/black/natural/blue etc, Tecnfibre X1 red/natural etc.
     
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    RDIS 10093,
    I completely agree. However, the perfect example is Babolat RPM and Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour. RPM is a carbon copy of Pro Hurricane Tour just different colors.
     
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    for real, that's why nadal is so good, because he use the black poly. the black dye in the string, just gives you so much more spin.

    some guys are talking about a brand new babolat red rpm, that gives you even more spin!
     
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    Red is more racey, so you'd expect more rpms from it.
     
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    False color does not affect the spin potential of a string. The shape and gauge of the string affects spin potential. Good try though, but you almost got away with sounding like you have any idea what you are talking about.
     
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    I'm only playing with the troll.

    Heavy hulken trolly arms don't tend to notice much difference between strings.
     
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    haha not even trolling. babolat is going to come out with a new string that is going to play different than rpm. it will be the conter move to luxs 4G. just watch
     
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    Correction, you sir are the troll.
     
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  39. Bartelby

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    BHB and BHS aren't the same strings.



     
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  40. Bartelby

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    There was a no dye version of plasma that was meant to be different, but the absence of dye would make a difference - or so one would think.

    A dye in such a synthetic material shouldn't make such a difference, so this may be an area where perception does come into play.
     
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    all future tennis strings will have extra dye to give more spin. the dye makes the strings give such a heavier ball. that is why fed is no longer number one in the world. just think how good fed would be if he played with rpm extra dye like rafa does. his fh would be so much better.
     
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    I would have to disagred because within the top ten only 2 people play with strings that have dyed a specific color. Rafa and Tsonga play with RPM with the rest play with Luxilon.
    The color doesn't have that much of a direct effect on the ball in tems of spin potential. The dye affects the stiffness and durability of the strings, which then has some affect on spin production. However, strings that have be shaped, twisted, etc will have a direct effect on the ball because of the shape of the string.
     
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  43. Maui19

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    I found the pink to play noticeably different for me. However I did change overgrips when I strung the pink, and the new overgrip was 1.22 grams heavier than the old one, so that could have accounted for the big difference in playability.
     
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    A +1g overgrip is not going to make a difference to the way the ball feels or comes off the strings.

    But that's 2 people now who have clearly said that the pink plays differently to the black.
     
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  45. SteveI

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    Chris from TW indicated that in his review. I would think Chris has a pretty good rep in these parts... :)
     
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    I agree with you. By the way have you tried out and compared the cyclone tour to the original pink cyclone string?
     
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    Have not got my hands on a set of the Tour....I hear it is much softer.
     
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    Bringing this thread back from the dead due to a heavy amount of interest in this topic.

    Played Yellow Cyclone 1.25 @ 53 lbs and found it to be a tad crisper than the Black Cyclone 1.25 @ 51. Whether it was the tension or the color it remains to be seen until I play with my Black Cyclone 1.25 @ 53. I did notice my Yellow version to notch quicker and to lose its playability more drastically. It is only in my 3rd hour (1 hour on hard, 2 on clay) and the yellow strings make a loud "clicky" noise as I pull the strings, either the mains or the crosses. The spin and the dwell time of the strings have decreased considerably as well.

    Comparing power levels, I would say that they are around the same. I think the yellow when fresh maybe had a tiny bit more liveliness but again I'm not sure if this is attributed to color or the tension bump from my previous Cyclone test. The string now has no power at all and it is a dead, stiff string IMO... similar to what Focus Hex (another string I playtested) plays like from the get-go.

    Everything is speculation as of now until I play with the Black in a matching tension. As of now, I think the yellow Cyclone is already "played out".
     
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    Has anyone tried the orange Cyclone? I'm primarily interested in the 18 or 17 gauge.
     
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    I believe the Orange will play similarly to the Yellow.
     
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