Volkl Cyclone Yellow vs pink vs black

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  1. BubblTee

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    I had a hit with both Cyclone 16G and 17G in black today.

    I noticed that the 16G in black has more pop but the 17G has more of a pingy/lively feel to it.

    Comfort wise the 17G is better. I noticed that in terms of power there was not much of a difference.

    Odd :/
     
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  2. EasternRocks

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    What do you mean by the 16 has more pop but the 17 has more of a lively feel? Pop = lively.

    I can definitely see how you observed the comfort being better with the 17g. Thinner strings tend to be more comfortable on the arm.

    In reference to the topic, there is definitely a difference between the yellow and the black. The black has a more plush/dead feel while the yellow has a crisper feel. The yellow is also a tiny bit livelier. The black seems to hold its playability for a bit longer as the yellow went from great to crap in a staggering 3 hours or so.
     
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  3. BubblTee

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    Sorry...I was talking about how the 16G when hitting it gave more of a 'thud' sound.

    I'm yet to see but after about 5 hours of play the gear shape has all but worn off.

    Do you think it makes a difference for color?
     
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  4. EasternRocks

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    Hmm. Trying to imagine what that "thud" sound you're talking about is. Maybe you're alluding to how the 16g has less spin potential and thus you feel like it is a little less forgiving than the 17g? Clarify if you'd like.

    I do believe there is a difference amongst the colors of Cyclone without a doubt.
     
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  5. Muppet

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    Thanks Eastern. Can anyone comment on their experiences playing with the orange? How is it in terms of trampoline, pocketing, and liveliness? Is there a string you've tried that plays or feels similar?
     
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  6. onching

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    I'm an 4.0-4.5 player with a fast swing. Played with various colors of cyclone at 18g (and a few colors of 16g and 17g). I definitely notice difference in the colors of cyclone 18g. On one end of the spectrum, the black is the lowest power/pop. The yellow cyclone 18g is on the other end of the spectrum with the more power/pop (haven't tried the pink yet. Just ordered some). The Orange plays closer to the black than the yellow with maybe just a little more pop than the black. On a scale to 1-10, if the black is a 1 and the yellow is a 10, the orange would be about a 2 or 3. I'll post how the pink compares next week. I string my own rackets with a Alpha Pioneer DC+ and I've compare the cyclone 18g colors at the same tension in the same rackets (Blade 98 18x20 (@40 lbs using 5 sec pause between mains and 20+ sec pause crosses).

    Muppet: To me Trampoline/liveliness = pop so I've covered it above. As for pocketing, the black being lower powered gives a slightly longer dwell time and a bit more pocketing than the yellow.

    Other players using lower gauges or slower swings may not notice any difference. But to me, there's definitely a difference. The different string response with the different colors is noticeable but admittedly in a range that's pretty small. The softest/liveliest color (yellow) still plays a lot firmer than Tourna Big Hitter Black 7 which is a string with slightly softer specs. The firmest /deadest color (black) still plays a lot softer than Solinco Tour Bite.

    That's been my experience with cyclone 18g colors over the last 2 years.
     
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  7. NFuego17

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    Onching, I've also tried the 4 colors over the past 2 years and have the same exact findings you did, also in 18g at 50lbs:

    Scale: 1-10 (only estimates from memory and compared to other poly strings)

    Power: pink (8) = yellow (8) > orange (6) > black (4)
    Control: black (9) > orange (7.5) > yellow (6) > pink (5.5)
    Comfort: orange (8) > yellow (7) = pink (7) > black (4)
    Spin: orange (9) > pink (8.5) > yellow (8) > black (6.5)

    Keep in mind, this is completely subjective. I may be getting more spin with orange than with the others because it has less power, so I have to swing faster to keep the ball deep and, in turn, getting some more RPMs on the ball. Using Cyclone in black messed up my shoulder. I gave up on it completely until I learned that the colors vary in stiffness. Try it for yourself if you don't believe the hype. The string won't break the bank at $8.

    If memory serves me correct, pink played very closely to yellow. The differences were very slim, but I liked pink slightly more overall. Orange was like a "better" version of black for me. More spin, more comfortable and a little more free power.

    Black was my favorite, because it plays so "dead", it makes first volleys and short angles in doubles very easy. Since I plan on playing tennis for the rest of my life, I decided to listen to my shoulder and stop using it. Orange is the next best color and way more comfortable.

    For my comparisons, I used black and yellow side-by-side for a while and then recently orange and pink side-by-side, then drew my conclusions. For reference, 4.0 singles player, 4.5 doubles player, semi-western forehand and a 2 handed backhand (which is hit primarily flat).

    I look forward to hearing about your conclusions as to where pink falls in the spectrum for you, onching.
     
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  8. Muppet

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    Thank you both for your insights on the orange 18g. I'll have to try it at some point next summer.
     
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  9. EasternRocks

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    Has anyone played both the 16 and the 17 gauges of black Cyclone? Will the thicker version be a tad firmer and a bit crisper or is it just me overthinking the potential differences there might be between thicknesses?

    The stiffness does seem to be a tiny bit higher which would indicate a little different playing string.
     
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  10. BubblTee

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    Bring this thread back.

    @ Eastern - I have tried both 17 and 16 in Black. I did find the 16 firmer and play more dead and stiffer than the 17. I found 17 to play crisper, impart more spin, play more comfortably so much so that I switched to 17 gauge.

    I find that once the tension drops it remains playable - although higher temperature give the strings more power.

    I'm now trying to Orange in 17g at the same tension with the black.

    Hoping to like the orange more than the black :p
     
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  11. EasternRocks

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    Yeah I confirmed this myself when I tested the 16g. 17g is crisper, a little livelier and has more spin. It is also more comfortable.

    With that being said, I still didn't like it that much. It doesn't have that crisp feel that I really like out of a string. It's a mix between plush and crisp, with it more leaning towards plush. I think Solinco Tour Bite plays similarly but it's crisper. Both are low powered, control oriented strings for the big hitter/high level player. They also impart a lot of spin. However, they give different responses. One is crisp (TB) while the other is plushy-crisp/pillowy after broken in (Cyclone)
     
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