Volkl Organix V1 MP -mods, tensions?

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  1. keithfival

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    Demoing this one, not in love with it but it is the most comfortable lightweight frame I have been able to find so that is enough reason for me to tinker around and see how much I can get it to my liking. My demo seems very low powered with very low plow. Great control and comfort, decent spin, and the lightweight is great for not tiring my shoulder.

    My demo is 4HL, (TW specs are 2HL) strung with Volkl Powerfibre II probably 55-58lbs. Just super low powered. So far I preferred 2g at 12 over 4g at 3/9. Today I'm going to try 2g at 12, 2g at 3/9 and add more at 12 as needed. If that doesn't get me there I'll restring with syn gut at 50 (don't know if powerfibre is a very low powered string?).

    Anyone who has tinkered with lead and tensions please chime in. Also, what is the stock strung balance of yours? I'm looking for more pop and maybe more dwell on the BH.
     
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  2. Bartelby

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    You've the wrong racquet. Low swingweight means low power.
     
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  3. ArliHawk

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    The Organix v1 mp is a very powerful racquet, even at a low swing weight.
     
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  4. keithfival

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    I restrung with my usual syngut at 50lbs, and added a total of 4g at 12 and 3g in the throat. Now it has some heat and spin to it and is quite stable at a still very light, fast weight. Still not crazy about the feel, kind of blah, but it was fun to take huge rips at every thing and watch them all stay in.

    I'll try it again in a 9.5 match tomorrow and see how it holds up.
     
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  5. Bartelby

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    I find these kinds of racquet are only powerful on punch and flcik shots and not so much on serves and shots involving swinging.



     
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  6. ArliHawk

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    I agree to a certain extent, the racquet has a lot of what I call "bail out" power, but find ,y serve is better with a heavier, less powerful frame.
     
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  7. JackB1

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    I am really surprised to hear you say the V1 is low powered even with full multi??? I find the racquet pretty powerful. I am currently using NXT Tour / Copoly at 56/52 and it's got controllable power.
     
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    I agree with this statement.

    Adding weight will up the power though....especially added at 12'
     
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  9. JackB1

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    What exactly aren't you liking about the feel? You sure the "blah" feeling is not due to "blah syngut"? You are also depolarizing it some by adding weight in the throat. I have 4 g's total at 3/9 and 8 g's around the butt and handle and it's great. You should try a premium multi in it...really makes this frame sing.
     
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    If that's YOU personal preference than that's what works best for YOU. If you serve better with a heavier lower powered frame, why are you messing around with the V1 MP? It's light and high powered. You should move on to the V1 Pro. Sounds more to your liking.
     
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    Thanks for the advice, but I've already moved on to the Head Graphene Instinct. Didn't know my comments were so controversial.
     
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    My appologies Arli......I got your comments confused with the OP's for a minute :)

    About the Instinct....isn't that also pretty high powered and light?
     
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    Yeah, it just seems to have a little less power, and a little more weight. Love it, seems like it is underappreciated on this board.
     
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    I have played the V1 MP stock with Excel at 50 at it is a powerful and comfortable racquet.
     
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    Tour Bite 1.20mm mains at 50 pounds + Volkl Classic Synthetic 1.25mm crosses at 53 pounds = Power!

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  16. keithfival

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    Actually, I like the feel of it much better with the syngut at 50 than the powerfiber II multi I cut out (my BLX 104 feels like absolute butter with syngut at 50, that's what I like). But I find the VI it still has a detached, kind of blank boardy feel (more than just muted). Maybe that is why it is so comfortable, they totally dampened all vibes.

    And like I said in the OP, I tried 4g at 3 & 9 first, but preferred the weight at 12 which gave me more controllable power than 3 & 9.

    I see some of the others that are liking it have it strung near 50 also, definitely came to life a little for me with lower tension, less muted boardy feeling, a little more dwell.

    I'll probably try it again tonight with the same setup (4g at 12, 3g throat) and see how it goes.
     
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  17. keithfival

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    Thanks for chiming in. 50lbs is working better for me. I think with such a light, stiffish head the lower tension gives it some meat. Also, mine is 4HL stock so it's lighter in the head than it's supposed to be.
     
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  18. keithfival

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    Well, it was - maybe due to the bal being 4HL instead of 2HL. I play every week with a 5.0 where I am forced to go big early in rallies before he gets control of the point so I typically have a fair share of winners and misses. With the V1 I could not hit a single winner from the baseline even though I was taking huge cuts due to the lower weight. I actually played well because everything stayed in, but there was just no zip on the ball, he easily got to shots to the corners that might normally be winners.

    But after restringing lower and more weight at 12 I am finding some good pop.

    Do you know what the stock bal point on yours was/is?
     
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    With 1 overgrip, headtape, and a rubberband the specs of mine are 307g and 4 points headlight.

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  20. keithfival

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    Yeah, unless your headtape is very heavy mine is unusually headlight. It's still 4HL with 4g of lead right at the tip.

    Played a 9.5 match with it tonight. This thing has crazy control, just taking big swings at everything, nothing goes long, like, ever. I do feel the stiffness after 3 or 4 days in row though. Kind of a cumulative effect. Also, I had trouble getting any pop on quick volleys, prob due to the lack of mass.

    I may try one more mod and add maybe 10-15g and see if that absorbs some impact and beefs it up.

    But for those looking for an APD type that don't mind just a bit of stiffness and not tons of feel, this seems like a spinny grinders dream.
     
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  21. JackB1

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    Keith, I have to disagree somewhat with the lack of feel comments. I can hit perfect droppers all day long with the XV1. I do think you need something in it though that adds some crispness to the stringbed. If you use a mushy feeling string, it does take away some feel.
     
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  22. keithfival

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    I don't mean you can't hit touch shots, I agree it's great for that too, the stringbed has fantastic control, I just find it to not have an enjoyable feel - very, very muted and no flex at all. When I picked up my BLX 104 with the exact same string job after 2 sets last night it felt like taking 3 condoms off, so buttery and solid, feels like a 14oz old Pro Staff in comparison.

    Just one man's taste. It's one of the easiest frames to control I've ever hit with, just don't enjoy the feeling of it.
     
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  23. keithfival

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    I will bring the weight up to maybe 325-330g tonight, closer to my usual range, and see if that feels better without losing the great speed and control. More mass often makes a stiff frame feel flexier to me.
     
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    I get ya now.

    Weird thing is I am usually all about the feel of the stringbed and I don't mind the XV1's feel at all. I will hit it side by side with my Blade 104 next time out and see if I detect a similar difference as you do. Also, I have both racquets strung the same w/ NXT Tour mains and copoly cross, so it should be a fair comparison.

    I agree it is very easy to play with and perhaps that's why I have been doing so well with it lately. Lately I am all about making things easier on myself and trying to play as consistent as possible, cutting down on unforced errors.

    BTW....you have the older model 104 and not the recent one, right?
     
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  25. keithfival

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    Yeah, I have the white BLX, the previous model, 52 RA, so over the top flex. And yeah, I find the V1 is even easier from the baseline than the 104 due to the extra spin and super fast feel, holding back was never a thought at any point during the matches. I did struggle with volleys more than with the 104, maybe just mass and wider sweetspot on the 104.

    Going to try bringing it up near my 104 weight to make the comparison better. Will report.

    Are you leaning towards the V1 over the 104?
     
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    Not sure right now. I have been playing very well lately with the XV1 and it might be best to stick with that for now, since I have developed a "familiarity" with it. It does give me a little more "free power" than the 104, but I have played some of my best tennis ever with the 104. I think for now, I will stay with the XV1 until there is a reason to change.
     
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    Well, adding weight to the handle was a bust for me, felt more solid but lost control - perhaps just from slowing my swing down a little. I think a key component of the V1's control for me is that it swings sooo fast, so I get lots of spin.

    Demos go back tomorrow. May try the Q295 again, which is a little similar but with a 57 flex and more plow.
     
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    Whats the Q295?
     
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    FYI my magic setup with XV1MP is lead from 8 thru 4, 24" lead wrapped around the handle and leather. Comes in around your target weight and 4-5 pts HL (don't remember exactly). Still very easy to swing, especially to get the right timing on swings, and you can just really relax and let the power to some of the work.
     
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    Just read your demos are going back - looks like its too late.
     
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