Volkl Organix V1 Pro

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  1. atatu

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    Has anyone hit this frame ? I can't find any information on this one besides the TW blog post.
    Thanks.
     
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    I wonder how the ball feel is like. Everything else is looking good so far.
     
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  3. ckhirnigs113

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    I'm excited to give this frame a demo. Hope someone chimes in that has had a chance to have a hit with it.
     
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  4. sargeinaz

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    I'm excited to demo it too. Hopefully it still works for flatter hitting. I'm thinking a Volkl leather grip might do it good to add some weight and make it a little more headlight.
     
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  5. ArliHawk

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    Just when I was all settled in with my Head Graphene Speed MP.
     
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    Hey Guys,

    I have had the pleasure to hit with this frame for a couple a weeks. I only have this to say at this point. This could be very well the ultimate tweener. The way the ball comes off the string bed is just unlike anything I have used in the past. It has the power and spin of a Babolat pure drive with the comfort of a V1. Give it a try if you get the chance guys.
     
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  7. ArliHawk

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    Just curious, before going to the Graphene Speed MP, I was an Organix V1 MP user. Is it safe to say the Pro maintains a lot of the favorable characteristics of that with more control?
     
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    The Pro is intriguing, but I'm getting good results from the V1 Classic. I added leather and eight grams of lead to beef up the swingweight. The Pro would let me get to the same point in terms of specs with less fuss, I suppose. It will also appeal to the thinner beam crowd, for sure. I do like the feel of those thin racquets, but it doesn't influence my racquet choices. All said, the V1 has a long legacy in the Volkl line, so trying to expand it's appeal is reasonable, if not guaranteed to be wholly successful.
     
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  9. spinovic

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    Can anyone access the TW review for this racquet?

    It is available as an option, but every time I click on it, I get the "Page Not Found" message.
     
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  10. DakotaM

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    I'm having the same problem.
     
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    In the vlog they said it should be up within the next couple weeks.
     
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  12. atatu

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    Any updates ? It seems like you're the only one who has hit this frame !
     
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  13. A_Instead

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    Me too as I have a Org V1. I really like it cause it is so comfy and plays great for its weight. But simply to light for me.
     
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  14. BigM

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    The Pro to me felt a heap more solid. It had none of the light frame flutter that I would feel with the standard. The pro was a bit more demanding which you would expect as its quite a bit heavier however I was getting some decent plough though with the pro which was very surprising. I had it strung up with cyclone 17g at 52/48 which allowed me to get plenty of bite on the ball when required . Personally I really loved the combination of Spin , power , plough and all with comfort. Just to add the response off the string-bed was very clean , as in no mushiness which helped me dial in my shots very quickly.
     
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  17. ArliHawk

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    I need to remind myself that I do not need to try this racquet and that I am perfectly happy with my Graphene Speed MP.
     
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    And I am happy with my C10 Pros, but I still wanna try it :-?
     
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  19. atatu

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    Yeah, that's gotta be the maverick, pretty cool.
     
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  20. ckhirnigs113

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    Sign me up for a demo! I used the Quantum V1 for years and years until deciding I needed a heavier more headlight racquet. I've now come full circle and this slightly beefier V1 seems like a perfect fit. Can't wait to get one out on the court.
     
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    i think that Rush'n Crush is Tennismaverick
     
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    Yep I think you're right lol. Most of the feedback given on this frame rings true with my own experience.
     
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  23. Cesare

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    what's the comfort level of this frame in your opinion?based on specs, personally i would have preferred it more headlight balanced, and 315 grams unstrung
     
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  24. sargeinaz

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    I think adding a leather grip would
    Be perfect for this stick to add some weight down low and make it more headlight.
     
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    He is part of it. I think he is partners with another guy there.

    Also....
    "RiggensAuroraHO" = TennisMaverick

    It's amazing the mods haven't caught on yet, but he's been very well behaved under this new "identity" :), so it's fine by me.
     
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    RiggensAuroraHO says the last time he had fun playing tennis was when he was seven, so it could be the Maverick.
     
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    It's him. The bio for Da-lai Wu (aka TMav) says he's a native New Yorker, which Mav always spoke of. Also, if you notice...ALL of RiggensAurora's posts are about Volkl and what gave it away, was when he describes a racquet's headsize, he does it with the little "2" like Maverick used to. He was the ONLY one here that ever did that. Case closed! :)

    Here are some of "RigginsAurora's" posts that are pure TennisMaverick:

    "I'm not going there. I can feel the difference just by hitting the string bed against my hand. Two of my players can as well as soon as they hit the ball, and one of them, was a real good junior who stopped playing at 18, and started up again ten years later. He is a serious artist and has had many shows in galleries, he is just ultra sensitive in all areas of his life. He can without a doubt feel the difference in a pound, so if you can't relate, don't"

    "Throw some gut in it and string loser, and/or add some lead tape. Otherwise, switch to the X10 325, which has a lot more pop, but less feel, as it is more muted"

    "Yeah....if they complain, that is all that I NEED. They count; you're disbelief in regard to what competitive 6.0 and up players can or cannot feel, isn't the issue. If they are unhappy with their equipment, they won't play well, and if they lose because of it, we have major problems. 16-25 year old male players can get volatile, and I don't need to be smoothing out their bad reactions with stringers, tournament directors, or volunteers. My job is to keep everything out of their way so they can just play"

    "The X10 is much more refined. It is what the DNX 10, eight years ago, was supposed to be"

    "There is a difference in how much tension loss there is as the string turns around the grommet. There a huge difference in many string jobs regarding cross string tension loss due to friction. There a difference as to whether or not the stringer takes the professional time to pre-stretch or not. There is also a difference in post stringing tension loss, and it gets worse the faster a stick is strung, because the string's creep has not been removed when strung very fast. That is why players who can afford it, especially with poly, will cut the string out even if it hasn't been used, as they prefer a fresh strung frame for a match. "

    "Do you feel that the X7 compares more favorably to the PDR than the X8 315? I've been asked to do similar research as I am receiving the X7 310 tomorrow for the second time. I played with them before they were released and did not make a PDR connection, especially since the X7 has the traditional Volkl head shape. However, I felt that the X8 315 was a true Volkl clone of the PDR, in that it had a tad less power but tons more Volkl feel/arm friendliness"

    case closed!
     
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  28. PS05

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    To answer a prior question . . .

    Yes, it plays a lot like the V1 MP. I've been on a two year demo quest to find a successor for my Instinct IG. I thinik I demoed everything from Head, Wilson, Babolat, Donnay, Pacific and Volkyl. Lots of nice frames out there. I was looking for more control and feel but still with some pop. I kept coming bact to the Prestige Pro, but in the end it is just a bit too heavy for me. Decided I was looking for an 11 ounce control oriented frame with an open pattern.

    I love my son's V1 MP. Just a little too light. But the frame plays and feels great -- the balance of power and control I was looking for. About two weeks ago I was ready to buy the Donnay XP Dual when the owner of my shop said "I know you love the MP. We should have a new 10.8 ounce version in about two weeks." The frames came in July 3rd. I demoed it that afternoon, and bought it last Friday strung same as the demo -- Power Fiber at 58lbs. I had the chance to play for three hours Saturday.

    So far: It feels great. Very similar feel to the MP, which I've hit with a lot. A little lower powered, but more heft and feel. I didn't feel like I was hitting a very heavy ball, but that might be the strings and tension. Access to spin is great. Touch shots are great. Weight is just right for me. Outstanding at the net. Very maneuverable and solid and great sound off the strings. I plan to play around with the strings and tension to get a little more power. My only knock is the grip. I usually play with a 3/8 with an overgrip, which is what the demo had. I was having problems changing my grip and holding on to the racquet. I bought a 4 1/2 and that seems better, but the grip seems a little odd. I don't have any issues with a MP in 3/8. All in all it's a great all around frame, and so far I really like it.
     
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  29. atatu

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    "My only knock is the grip. I usually play with a 3/8 with an overgrip, which is what the demo had. I was having problems changing my grip and holding on to the racquet. I bought a 4 1/2 and that seems better, but the grip seems a little odd. I don't have any issues with a MP in 3/8. All in all it's a great all around frame, and so far I really like it. "

    Can you explain this a little more ? When you say the grip feels odd, do you mean the shape or the size ?
     
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  30. PS05

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    I think it's the size. It is supposed to be the same shape as my Instinct and my son's V1MP. I let the head pro at my club hit with it without previewing anything and he had a similar reaction. I think his exact words were "hits great but the grip is a little weird." He tried the demo with the 3/8, so I'll let him try my frame with the larger grip tomorrow. The owner of my shop said if the size is wrong Volkyls are simple to change.
     
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  31. Cesar1992

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    That's him. He's a great coach and the blog is cool!
     
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  32. PhxRacket

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    How does V1 Pro compare to the BLX Blade 98?
     
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  33. JackB1

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    Are u not aware that ALL Volkl's have a different grip shape than the Instinct?
    The Volkl shape is very rectangular as opposed to Wilson or Prince, which is more square.
    I would be very surprised if Volkl changed the grip shape just for this one model? That doesn't make sense.
     
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    The comfort level was outstanding for me. It was such a clean hitting experience. The balance was fairly even so a leather grip or some silicone in the handle would easily alter the balance to your liking. I actually liked the even balance as I think it helped produce some of the plough.
     
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    Thank you so much! searchin' for a replacement of my old trusty v10 catapult( player's version of the v1), this new v1 could be an excellent candidate
     
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  36. PS05

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    My son's V1 MP grip feels (to me) like the same shape as my Head Instinct. My Wilson frame prior to my Head feels very different. The owner of my shop said Volkyl grips should feel similar in shape to my Head. That's why I suspected it was the size.
     
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  37. JackB1

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    Is it a recent generation Instinct? The Head Speeds and Instincts of recent years have a square Wilson-like grip shape, while the rest of the Head line are rectangular, like Volkl.
     
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    My Instinct grip is rectangular. I had no issues with my son's V1MP and didn't even notice the grip on the Organix 10 I demoed for a week earlier this summer. I noticed it on the demo of the Pro. My racquet seems fine so maybe the specs on the demo were off.

    Btw, the frame is awesome. Hit with it again yesterday with my son who was home from camp. The only problem was he tried it and wouldn't give it back. He strongly disagreed that it wasn't hitting a heavy ball. It feels great.
     
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  39. ArliHawk

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    Need to stay away from this thread, but this racquet sounds really tempting.

    Really hoping the TW review isn't overly flattering. Otherwise may have to demo, and that could be a problem. Something psychological about going under 100 inches, though.
     
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  40. atatu

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    It looks like the first batch of these frames has sold out...any we still don't have any reviews from users ? What's going on ?
     
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  41. A_Instead

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    Mine is due in tomorrow, I'll give a brief review this weekend.
     
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  42. uscmba02

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    Mine is in hand. Will be playing with it tonight. I've been most recently playing with EXO tours and very recently with a leaded up V1 classic so we will see how it goes.
     
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  43. NoMansLandPlayer

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    I hit with mine last night... First of all, came in 9 grams under spec. Not really a big deal for me since I always add leather and lead, but still not ideal. Mine was strung with Volkl V-feel 16 at 55. Strung weight with dampner, overgrip and leather was around 11.5oz. As far as performance, no complaints...

    Very Volkl Organix feel, nice and solid hoop, better than average touch.
    Pretty light and whippy feeling.
    Beam width is just about spot on
    Comfort is very good but I would say not as comfortable as the original V1 classic
    Power level is lower than Pure Drive type racquet
    Found no real weaknesses, nothing over the top strong either\
    Think I will try a soft poly at around 52 next time

    Very positive first outing
     
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  44. sargeinaz

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    Looking forward to move reviews. Bummer about the 9 grams under spec though. Does it feel a lot bigger than the 98 inch Volkls?
     
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  45. NoMansLandPlayer

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    no, its feel the same size... V1 Pro does not look large at all.

    I actually had a great demo session with the Org 7 295, but my arm told me after an hour it was just not possible to play long term.. Too bad as it is a great stick. Just too stiff for my arm contrary to what others have said.
     
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  46. TW Staff

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    Thought I'd chime in too!

    I just hit this racquet again today, and it just does a lot of good things (in my opinion).

    Like you guys, I could go with a bit more mass, but it is fast and easy to swing fast with. Love it at the net. Enjoy it on serves. I'm really enjoying my playtest with it. I've hit it with a couple different polys in the low to mid 50 pound range.

    On paper, the swingweight is lower than what I like, but I'm still loving it!

    Just my two cents...

    Michelle, TW
     
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  47. ArliHawk

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    Michelle,

    Do you have any idea when the review will be up?
     
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  48. TW Staff

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    We will be filming the video in about 2 or 3 weeks, and then the written review should be up shortly after that.

    All of us on this playtest are really enjoying it and we all have pretty diverse taste when it comes to racquets.

    I highly suggest demoing this one!

    Michelle, TW
     
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  49. uscmba02

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    I too had a good first outing with this stick. I liked it at the net and really liked kicking serves with it.

    I have suffered mightily with TE and I will say this- I played ~5 hours of decently competitive doubles last night and I have 0 pain or discomfort this morning. My TE has been so bad that I switched from a EXO Tour (which helped a lot) to a V1 classic recently. The classic helped clear it up (along with the magical theraband) and this racket at least didn't aggravate it.
     
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  50. El Diablo

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    ^^ you "have suffered mightily with TE" but continue to play for 5 hours at a time?? Brilliant!!!! Look up "repetitive stress injury." Tony Roche suffered famously with TE and used a wood racquet with a RA of about 30, and gut strings.
     
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