Volkl Organix V1 Pro

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  1. uscmba02

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    I think my point was, my TE is cleared up- I've been playing with and arm friendly racket, I want to play with a lower powered frame. This one seems to be just as arm friendly for me as the V1 classic. I have it stung with gut.
     
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  2. Bartelby

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    Volkl create miracle, arm-healing sticks that new users flock to everytime a new one comes out.
     
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  3. Posture Guy

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    I'm excited to try this one, too.

    I'm currently playing the V1 Classic Mid, I put some lead under the grip and around the hoop, added about 6 ounces, kept the balance pretty similar, and I'm very happy with this stick. Wouldn't mind just a tad more control and less power, but I'm picking nits there.

    Currently strung with Pacific Classic mains and Co-Focus crosses, a combo I love in this frame. Will definitely be trying this new stick when it's available for demo. Nice to be happy with what I've got in the meantime, though.
     
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  4. El Diablo

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    ^^ "6 ounces"!!
     
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  5. Posture Guy

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    nah, lol, boy that was a typo.

    No, I meant .6 ounces, but even that's not right now that I look at the specs. I think I added just a bit over an ounce, wanted to get the racquet up to about 12 ounces unstrung. iirc, it clocked in just under 11 when I got it. So I probably added about 1.1-1.2 ounces to it.
     
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  6. Posture Guy

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    By the way, just ordered the demo for this puppy, and also ordered the Organix 10 325g stick to also demo. Always wanted to try that one. Curious how that will compare to both what I have now and the new Organix V1 Pro.
     
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  7. MesQueUnClub

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    Here's a question for those who have played with the Oragnix V1 MP or classic V1 and the new pro : How is the kick serves? When I tried the Organix V1, I had a lot of trouble getting any pop on my kick serves. Just wanted to know how the new frame feels in comparison?
     
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  8. JackB1

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    The Organix V1 MP is a great racquet that about 90& of the guys on this forum could probably use and play great with.
    The V1 Pro is for players that want the same racquet but much lower in power. If you don't like to swing hard and fast most of the time, then choose the MP over the PRO.
     
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  9. JackB1

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    make sure and compare it to the MP if u can! Thanks.
     
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  10. rqtguy

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    Really looking forward to demoing this stick. Wish someone local had it already.
     
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  11. Bjorn yesterday

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    I have been playing with the V1 MP for about 6 months coming off a Speed 300. Every aspect of my game is better, especially serves and volleys. Love the MP, but I'm using gut because of a sensitive arm (that has been great since leaving poly) and I've found that I've had to up the tension close to max at 58 to tame the power of the MP and enhance the control. I'm wondering if the Pro would give me the added control and allow me to reduce the tension of the gut. Appreciate all the comments on this stick so far!
     
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  12. JackB1

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    yes, that's exactly what the Pro would do for you.

    also....have you tried using a lower powered cross string with your guys mains, to lower overall power?
    something like NXT Control, FXP Tour or Rip Control in the crosses would help and also keep it soft feeling.
     
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  13. uscmba02

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    This is exactly what I was looking for. I've been playing with a V1 classic strung @ 58 with natural gut (VIcon). I had my pro strung at 52 with VS. So far, so good. For me.
     
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  14. Posture Guy

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    a bit of a topic-veer, but how does the Organix V1 MP compare to the V1 Classic Mid? I play the latter, never hit the former. Should've included that in my demo order, probably.
     
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  15. A_Instead

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    Got mine on the court today for the 1st hit.
    11.3 oz with dampener/11.5 with overgrip. So specs are right in preference.
    Has that nice egg shaped head, skinny top and fatter through the hips. aka "Puma"

    BB NYC + BB London = V1P

    Definitely has the BB heritage in this one. First thought after a few hits was a fatter NYC with more power, less flex and more solid. Then as I played with it, some flashes of the London came to mind. So a nice combo for those who have liked the NYC and the London.
    If BB was still selling racquets, This one would be called "Paris" for sure.

    Having an Org V1 as well, These racquets to me play nothing alike. Both are nice racquets, but 2 different approaches.
     
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  16. Posture Guy

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    given that I know nothing about the BB racquets, this comparison means nothing to me.

    How does the Pro compare to the non-pro version? You say they're totally different racquets, but don't say how they're different. Would love some elaboration on this point.
     
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  17. srvnvly

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    Given that there are a lot of us who have played with the London, this is does actually mean a lot. On paper, including the now-available power map numbers including twistweight, this racquet seems right in my sweetspot; my demo should here today, so it should be a good week.
     
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  18. Posture Guy

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    Didn't say his post wasn't helpful for others, but if one hasn't played with any of those racquets, it's less than helpful. Would love some other reference points.
     
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  19. A_Instead

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    I'll write a comparison this weekend and a little more on how the V1P playes.
    BUT so far so NICE.
     
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  20. Posture Guy

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    A_Instead...looking forward to it, thank you. Looks like a nice stick. I've got a demo coming, will be here on Monday, I think. I'll post some thoughts as well once I get out with it for a time or two.
     
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  21. atatu

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    Hey, I should get my demo Monday or Tuesday, let me know if you want to hit at Anderson HS again ?
     
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  22. Posture Guy

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    Hi atatu....I was just thinking it would be great to get out and hit again! Any chance for the weekend after this one? I'm tied up during the week. Email me, rickATegoscueDOTcom.

    And my demo just showed up today! Wasn't expecting it 'til Monday. It's gonna be hard, I've got a ladder match I really want to win tomorrow morning so I'm not even bringing them to the court. But then I'm playing Sunday, just a hitting session so these sticks are gonna get a workout. the V1 Pro is brand new, had to cut the cellophane off the handle. I'm already thinking "hmm, if I like it, can I just tell them I 'lost it' and to charge me for it?"
     
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  23. couch

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    Got mine today. A little disappointed in the QC. Mine came in at 298 grams, about 7 grams under spec. I don't mind 2-3 grams off but 7 is way too much.

    On a brighter note, this is an awesome looking stick and feels a lot like my old Tour 8. Strung mine up with tonic in the mains at 57 and Pro Line II in the crosses at 53. Supposed to hit Sunday so I'll try and post a review afterwards.

    In hand it feels and swings great. I've always liked a thinner beamed racquet but at 43 I need something with a little more power. It feels like a nice "players" tweeener type of racquet- which is exactly what I'm looking for. I just really wish it would have come in closer to spec. So anal about those things.
     
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  24. Bartelby

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    There's been too many ownership changes at Volkl, but they're still producing great designs if not qc.
     
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  25. xeropwnage

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    If the frame measured several grams lighter than intended weight, how would you expect the balance and swingweight to be affected?
     
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  26. Automatix

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    Warning, huge simplification below!
    You don't know where the missing 7g was "supposed to be" so you can't expect anything.

    Although it's usually like this that with a lower weight the balance is less headlight than it was supposed to be. However this is not always the case.
     
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  27. uscmba02

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    I now have two of these. With a Volkl leather grip, a Yonex super grap and a #64 rubber band they weigh 11.7 oz strung. They balance the same using the highly technical kitchen counter balance measurement device.

    I've used them for 2 team matches and a a couple of team practices as well as an extended night of bumper league. They are now what I play with and will likely be for a while. Mine are strung with VS mains and WCMB crosses at 52/48 and as I've stated before this racket is easy on the arm.

    Take all this with a grain of salt as I play at 3.5(ish). (I do play up and have played higher before I took 16 years off and put on 25 lbs. I hit with full strokes.)

    PS- This morning I was able to hit ridiculous angles playing my son. I'll ignore that we were using green dot control balls and he is only 9. ;)
     
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  28. A_Instead

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    Ok..My 2 cents on the V1P...take it for what it is worth to you.
    Long time Wilson Pro Open user and have been looking for something to enhance my game. So in the bag now is the new Vcore Tour 97 310 (very nice offer), EXO Tour 16x18 and now the V1P. Desired and preferred spec of a racquet is 11.5 oz strung. Easy swinging, crisp and solidness of course and sweet spot higher in the string bed.
    97 is very solid, very precise, hits a heavy ball and requires a little more effort. EXO is soft, fun, whippy like a bull whip, spinny. powerful and unlike anything else which makes it fun to play with. (those who have one know what I am talking about).

    Now on to the V1P. Having hit and tried so many racquets over the years I am trying to make a comparison and the only ones I can mention is the NYC and the London. But hey.. they are brothers so one can expect that..
    Taking some time to adjust to the V1P, the 1st thing I noticed is the trajectory angle over the net. Low. What I like about the V1P that it doesn't require massive top spin to keep the ball in the court. I can hit flat with this one, YES.
    The sweet spot is a little low due to the egg shape head. No biggy, just got to adjust a little.
    FH can be pounded and the control is there. Ball penetrates through the court nicely and doesn't sit up. Flat and spin, Haven't tried to hit with extreme spin yet, (don't have to) but I do not believe this one was designed for that type of hitting (aka..APD, PD, 99S)
    BH still working out the bugs on it, But slice stayed low.
    Serves are coming together, that will take more time to adjust. But no issues, pop and power is there.
    Sooo. To sum it up.... So far.. So Nice. Very Crispy, Not a canon, not a wimp. Hits a penetrating ball, doesn't require extreme spin. Easy to swing. Not demanding. Solid and stable. Its a good one. Nice work Volkl!!!
     
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  29. zumzool

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    What about the v1 pro reminds you of the london? Dwell time? Forgiveness? Power?



     
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  30. A_Instead

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    The liveliness of the string bed. Dwell IMO has allot to to with string choice and tension, but the London had more dwell time.
     
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  31. Posture Guy

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    anyone know what string these are coming with (the demos from TW)? It's interesting looking, no clue what it is. I opted for a multi, don't like poly in the mains.

    Wish I had the time and could justify the expense of stringing the demo up with my preferred setup (gut mains/poly crosses), but I'll just have to infer what I can from the current setup.
     
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  32. ArliHawk

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    Anybody who hit with this and the Head Graphene Speed MP that could offer me a comparison?

    Using the Speed right now but this is tempting me as a former V1 MP user.
     
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  33. dflores

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    played four sets today with the TW demo. Strung with an unknown to me synthetic/multi (black and twisty pattern).

    The racquet was very comfortable, similar to the Prince Tour 100 but more crisp and not as mushy (maybe how the Prince would play without the ports). I'm looking forward to playing with the poly demo next but I'm thinking a hybrid would feel perfect.

    Currently playing with the 2013 Blade and a hybrid. The Volkl is solid without feeling as stiff as the Blade. both racquets have similar balance and weight but somehow the SW is lighter with the Volkl; makes it it a little quicker with reaction volleys. Really surprised how much I liked it.

    One last thing. I've read some comments about the grip shape but I didn't have any issues with it (4 3/8 with overgrip). For reference I prefer a wilson grip over a Head grip. Eastern forehand and 1HBH.
     
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  34. Posture Guy

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    I just got done hitting with it and I'm loving this stick. Plays a LOT like my V1 Classic Mid but with a bit less power, which has the ironic effect of allowing me to hit the ball with more power because I can swing out more freely. Serves were fun with this racquet.

    Now, the guy I played today doesn't hit with any pace, kind of loops the ball back. I hit with someone on Wednesday who hits a hard, flat ball so that will be a better test. I'm gonna wait to order until then, but if that hit session goes as well as today, I think I found my new racquet.
     
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  35. Pneumated1

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    I've hit the London for 3 years and took the V-1 Pro out this weekend for a demo. What stood out to me in my first hit was one backhand, cross-court volley from mid-court. The combined plushness/crispness on this one shot resulted in instant addiction. In the sweetspot, the frame just cradles the ball but delivers it with interest, bite, spin, and loads of control. However, I still wasn't sold because it took me a few groundstrokes to realize that the sweetspot is a few strings lower than with my Londons.

    Yesterday I hit the frame with an overgrip and 10" of head tape, centered over the bumper, and that's probably all that I would need with this one. It's definitely an organix frame, felt around the edges, but this, combined with the plushness of the stringbed allow you to really drive the ball with spin, with the added benefit of greater torsional stability over the London. Volleys are solid. Slices drive nice and low. But the best feature, in my experience, is serving. It's the best frame I've ever served with, and my friend across the net verbally confirmed, on multiple occasions and somewhat amazed, the improved velocity and "work" on my serves, compared to the London.

    I love that the frame has a shorter, beefier throat than the London, as well as more width up top. And they say this has a 68 stiffness rating? I would've never guessed with its comfort. I'm switching; there's nothing that the London does better for me.
     
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  36. Posture Guy

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    yeah, this parallels my experience. I was serving the best I've served in a long time with this stick. On firsts, I could just go AFTER it and I was hitting heavy balls with a lot of pace and they were dropping in. My seconds had a LOT more action than with my V1 Classic MP.

    I'm definitely looking forward to hitting on Wednesday against a partner who hits with pace. I think it's going to go even better than demoing the stick against a looper.
     
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  37. smark.tennis

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    Could you compare it to O10 295 frame. I thinking to switch from organix O295 to V1pro, but can't demo at my country. Thanks
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  38. JackB1

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    That's quite an endorsement. Happy hitting and g/l with it!

    I do have one question.......is the power level about the same with both the London and V1 Pro?
     
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  39. Posture Guy

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    smark.tennis.....I've never hit with the O10 295, but in my demo order I also got the O10 325. I liked it on groundies, but didn't care for it on serves or volleys. I don't think it specs out as head heavy, but it feels like it to me. Just felt clunky, hard to describe.

    The V1 Mid Pro felt like described above, a really cool combination of plush and crisp (hard to find). And it excelled in all areas. I could hit looping top spin, driving backhand slices, volleys were crisp, I could hit flat and hard, and I described serves. VERY nice.

    Volkl has a winner with this stick.
     
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  40. coolblue123

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    Hi Pneumy!!! How big is the sweetspot off the frame? Is it that much lower than the London? Looking for a updated frame myself too. Sold all my NYC's and kept only one. So just athetic tape? No lead at all? That PJ is nice!
     
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  41. dflores

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    Demo update: finally figured out the strings for the two demos from TW; Volkl V Feel multi on one, and the other had Volkl V pro 17.

    Haven't tried either string before but I thought they both played great with this racquet. Personally prefer the poly which is unusual but the racquet is so comfortable my elbow is not affected at all.

    I'm making the switch from my Blades. I find the V1 Pro has the same solid feel on all ground strokes, crisp volleys, a little quicker with reaction volleys, and serves just as well. For me, everything I love about the Blade with more comfort. I'm not sure I've ever played with a racquet I could describe as plush and comfortable, yet solid and crisp.
     
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    Can anyone compare the V1 pro and the Donnay Pro 1 in terms of power ? On paper I think the V1 pro should be more powerful, but any on court comparisons ?
     
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    Any thoughts on how the V1 Pro compares with the Boris Becker Delta Core London?
     
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    Just ignore my question I just saw Pneumated1 comments.
     
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    great review and glad to hear that you finally found a frame to follow your londons. this seems like the frame that the x9 was supposed to be and i am guessing that the v1pro slots in between the x8's and x10-295? - an ideal control frame for fast swinging intermediate all court players. i am so tempted :twisted::twisted: LOL
     
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    The V-1 Pro is simply much more forgiving than the X-295. And while the X-295 is more flexible on paper, in reality it plays crisper, while the plush/crisp combo of the V-1 Pro has to be experienced to be believed. At least these are my impressions.

    Hey Jack. That's a tough one to answer. I would say that they're very similar power-wise, but the V-1 Pro penetrates the court better, flatter, with more bite. I'm getting better precision and control with the V-1 Pro, and that with a full multi demo.

    Absolutely. Your experiences and impressions with the frame verify and consolidate my own.

    Hey cb! As you know the London's sweetspot is huge, and it's probably more forgiving around the edges (even though this observation may be more perceptual than actual), but nothing I've ever hit compares with the plushness of the V-1's sweetspot, and ranks right up there for forgiveness, as well. And no, the sweetspot is not that much lower at all, and to be honest, after applying the head tape, I hardly noticed. And no, there's no lead at all, but we'll see after I replace the grip with something heavier.

    I wondered myself, considering that I went with the multi demo. The bite, spin, and control that I get with a full multi is pretty encouraging in this frame. And you're right, it does remind me a lot of a Blade, just more comfortable, player-friendly, and dare I say, precise?
     
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  47. Posture Guy

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    Pneumated1...yeah, our impressions are very similar. It's hard to explain, how a racquet can simultaneously be this plush AND crisp. Very unusual, in a very good way.

    And I'm thinking it plays like this with a multi, what will it feel like with my normal gut/poly hybrid? I'm guessing I'll string it at a lower tension than I strung my V1 Classic Mid. Will be fun to play with.
     
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  48. Pneumated1

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    Hey Tom! It's hard to put down a great frame like the London, but the moment I held the V-1 Pro, I knew the transition would be seamless. And honestly, I'm not sure this one slots in anywhere within the current lineup. I'd say it's in a class of its own, with definite X-10, V-1, and traditional-Volkl heritage---but perhaps in perfect combination. As Posture Guy said above, Volkl got it with this one.

    I almost went with the F 3.0 Tour recently and have a demo of it, along with the V-1 Pro. I like it second best, but it doesn't even compare for me. Your results may be different. For a flat hitter, such as yourself, you should give this beast a go, if for no other reason than to experience the serving and volleying pleasure.

    Precisely. I hit a Cyclone/Nvy hybrid in my Londons, but this one has me thinking of taking the gut/poly hybrid plunge. I can't imagine!
     
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  49. sargeinaz

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    Man these reviews are making this stick sound like the perfect players tweener. Finally a sub 100 headsize players stick with some more forgiveness and pop. I can't wait to get some free time to demo. Looking forward to couch's impressions too.
     
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  50. Posture Guy

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    Pneumated1....I'm one of the ones who struggled to find the right string combo, then someone recommended Pacific Classic Gut mains and MSV Co-Focus crosses and for me that's been a terrific combination that I'm very, very happy with. I've tried more expensive guts like Prince and Wilson, and they're too mushy. This setup has a soft but crispy feel that I think will be a terrific complement to this frame.
     

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