Volkl V-Torque Playtest

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  1. TW Staff

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    Volkl V-Torque Playtest (Comments due by April 17)

    Attention Talk Tennis Members:

    We are no longer accepting requests for this playtest. We will make final selections early next week, and ship the string shortly thereafter.

    For those of you who receive the string, please post your review by April 17.

    If you do not post a review, or if your review is clearly lacking effort, you will be excluded from future playtests. Finally, please do not post "Email Sent" as we would like to cut down on some of the clutter.

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    Include the following in your review:

    Tension used for playtest
    Regular string set up
    Racquet brand and model used for test
    Power of test string
    Feel
    Spin
    Comfort
    Durability
    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time)
    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)
    Compare to the string you use most often
    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)
    List any final thoughts.
     
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    As a reminder, please do not write "email sent" posts (or posts similar). We are trying to keep the thread limited to questions and reviews. Thank you for your understanding.

    Brittany, TW
     
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    Hi db10s,

    Neon Green.

    Thanks,
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    17G. 10char.
     
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  5. TW Staff

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    LanEVO,

    Yes, we have decided to send out emails to the playtesters that were selected to participate in the playtest. The email was sent from one of our string gurus here at Tennis Warehouse.

    Brittany, TW
     
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  6. SteveI

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    Great idea Brittany, I have one of my main frames in need of stringing. It was great to get the e-mail confirming our entry. Makes for easy planning on the testers end.

    Can't wait to see that interesting color!!

    Regards,
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  7. SteveI

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    Volkl V- Torque 17G PlayTest - SteveI

    Stringing: Very easy to string. About the same time to string as my normal set-up. Coil memory was not an issue and the string was very easy to work with and did not harm my fingers. String was on the softer side for a poly and there was some stretching observed while the string was being tensioned. String was softer and less stiff than the Tourna Big Hitter Silver 17G. All knots snugged up nice and tight.

    Tension used for playtest: 52 mains / 50 crosses (Strung on CP 6-point Alpha) - Two Piece

    Regular string set up: Tourna Big Hitter Silver 17G - 52#s mains / Head PPS 16G - Black 50#s crosses

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Head YOUTEK IG Instinct MP - 100 sq. in. 16x19 Pattern.

    I tested this string for 12 plus hours, both indoors and outdoors. Serving, drilling and match play both singles and doubles.

    Power of test string: I found this string to have low to medium power over all strokes and conditions played in. It is a bit harder to compare the power output of this string to my normal setup since my normal setup is a hybrid and is more lively by my design. The power output was very consistent throughout the testing with no hotspots encountered. The string seems to be going dead and a bit more racket head speed was required to adjust for the reduced output.. This string is very honest. Swing speed in...power out.

    Feel: Again, since I almost never play a full bed of poly it is somewhat hard for me to be very precise in my evaluation of this attribute. In general, the string had decent feel and touch but was not as good as my normal set-up or the other test frame used that was strung in a full bed with Wilson Syn Gut Extreme 16G. Feel is not a strong point of this string.

    Spin: Spin is outstanding with this string over all strokes and in all conditions. Spin production was about 20 % better than my regular setup and blew away the Wilson Syn Gut Extreme 16G test frame. Spin could be produced tight and with more loop when needed. It was hard to hit long when your stroke production was solid. Spin production was very close to Tourna Big Hitter Black 17G, which is the best I have ever tested.

    Comfort: For a full bed of poly, comfort was very good. While the string seemed to play stiff, firm and produced great control when testing, and that stiffness did not seem to impact my arm or shoulder in any way shape or form.

    Durability: After 12 plus hours of play testing, the string is just starting to move and feel a bit on the dead side. I would rate the durability as outstanding for a poly or any other string. I am sure I can still play this string for at least another 2-3 hours before I really have to modify my strokes and swing speed. Very impressive indeed.

    Playability Duration: The playability over time was excellent and the change was very linear and slight. The string did not become a rocket launcher but just loss a bit of zip at the 12 hour mark. Power output is this still acceptable at this point. Tension seems very stable over the life of this full bed.

    Control: The trajectory was predictable over all strokes and swing speeds. Again, the string played very "honest". Solid stroke production = performance over all strokes and swing speeds. It was a great evaluation tool for me in the early spring season. If I hit the ball well, great.. otherwise much lower power output, spin and control.

    Compare to the string you use most often (Tourna Big Hitter Silver 17G - 52#s mains / Head PPS 16G - Black 50#s crosses): This string had better control and spin production over my hybrid setup. My hybrid setup produces more power output, better overall feel and comfort. Again, I am not really comparing apples and apples as my regular setup is a hybrid. I would love to test this string side by side using the Volkl test string in hybrid set-up. I know the results would be interesting.

    Tension recommendations: I got lucky and nailed the tension perfect for my game and the frame. I think if I was to utilize this string as a main in a hybrid set-up, I would maintain the tension I selected. Using a soft slick syn gut in the crosses would improve the feel and maybe open up the sweet spot a bit..really the only negative I found in my playtest.

    Final thoughts: I loved the string. I did hate the color - Neon Green. I would love to see this string in a black, red and silver. This string is an outstanding offering from Volk and Tennis Warehouse and will be a great string for power baseliners and all court players. Modern ball strikers will love this string due to its great spin output, control and durability and its solid price performance ratio. I would stock and play it IF there other less wild colors offered. I can see how this color might appeal to the younger set.

    Thanks TW, Volkl and Brittany!!!
     
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  8. lawrencejin

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    Received V-Torque in 17 gauge today. Strung it up on my Wilson PS 6.0 85 at 50lb. The string felt thin and stiff, with an unusual texture -- almost as if three tiny round strings were stuck together. Stringing was a breeze. It's not exactly my favorite color (will it glow in the dark?), but still, I'm looking forward to testing it out for a week.

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    Playtest set-up: Volkl V-Torque 17 at 50lb CP
    Regular string set-up: Signum Pro Tornado 17 at 50lb CP
    Racquet: Wilson Pro Staff 6.0 85

    Power: 3/5. Coming from lively poly strings such as Tornado and Baseline Speed, V-Torque felt relatively low powered. But don't let the low score fool you -- it is an ideal level of power for me, and I really enjoyed it. I could fully swing out on the ball without worrying about it going out. Flat shots were fantastic. Topspin groundies initially bounced short, but that was not too difficult to adjust. The pace on my serves were OK overall. As expected, flat serves were not as effective as with Tornado, so that's something to keep in mind if most of your first serves are flat.

    Feel: 5/5. The string felt very crisp and solid. I personally enjoy this type of feel, as it complements my heavy frame rather well. If I had to pick a negative, off-center hits were slightly harsher on my arms than others.

    Spin: 4/5. Great spin. I am debating whether it should be a 4 or a 5. My kick serves and sliders were very effective. Many of my deep ground strokes dipped last minute to clip the line. The string definitely provides more than enough spin potential for me to utilize. What's even better is that, unlike some other spinny strings, I felt quite comfortable switching back and forth between topspin and flat ground strokes.

    Comfort: 3/5. The comfort level was average, comparable to Tornado. Like Tornado, good hits never gave any problems, but mishits felt harsher than softer poly strings. When playing doubles, I was at the net and tried to block a passing shot to my backhand. The ball hit the top of my frame, and my elbow mildly ached for a second. It's not a deal-breaker for me, but it's something to consider.

    Durability: 4/5. The string looks pretty durable. The mains started notching in the first hour, but crosses are still OK after 3 hours; the mains slide back and forth fine. I am more interested in playability duration so I will keep this part short.

    Playability duration: __/5. After 3 hours, so far, so good. Playing characteristics have remained stable and predictable. Tension has also remained very much intact. Immediately after stringing, the pitch of my string bed was D#. After an hour, it fell to D, but remained there ever since. The strings have become rounded near the sweet spot, but at a rate slower than other shaped strings such as Tornado. It might be due to its unique shape, which is sharper and more protruding... almost as if three tiny strings were stuck together... There is no noticeable change in spin or power so far. The strings do move about (mildly) in the first hour, so it's definitely not for the OCD-minded. I will update this part in about a week.

    Control: 4/5. Control with V-Torque is very good. The string allowed me to do everything that I wanted to that were within my skills, plus a few occasional special shots. I had no trouble controlling ground strokes, volleys, and serves with this string. I made a few good running forehand passing shots. The only minor complaint I had was that I could not effectively perform cross-court wrist flicks, which is a bit easier with Tornado.

    Comparison with Tornado 17: Personally, I find Volkl V-Torque to be a great alternative to Tornado. There are two differences. First, V-Torque is slightly lower powered, which made me feel more comfortable swinging out flat shots, while at the same time marginally hurt my serves and defensive shots. Second, the feel is different. They are both pretty crisp, but V-Torque feels a bit deader and more solid. I am happy with both. Other performance characteristics are comparable. So an important question is, will V-Torque hold its playing characteristics as well as Tornado? If so, I will consider changing my go-to strings to Volkl V-Torque.

    Tension recommendations: Your regular poly tension should be fine.

    I will reserve my overall comments until I see how well the string retains its playing characteristics in the following week. It looks promising. The glow-in-the-dark green color is a bit disturbing, but you can use it to your advantage by waving it in front of your opponent(s) -- they will surely be blinded by its glow.

    Follow-up review here.

    Thank you TW for the play test!
     
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  9. Rabbit

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    I was going to post as well. I received my neon green set today as well. It is 17 gauge. I strung it up and all I can say is WOW! It certainly didn't string as stiffly as all the other poly I string and I agree it was a breeze to put in.

    Going out for a hit today and will deliver a full report when it breaks. The chap I strung it for should do that in 2 days. :)

    EDIT: Testing - 21MAR13
    EDIT: Completion - 23MAR13

    Tension used for playtest : 58 pounds on a CP Electronic machine

    Regular string set up : Volkl V-Rex 16L @ 58

    Racquet brand and model used for test : Wilson 99S

    Power of test string : Power of string was in line with regular poly, no noticeable increase or decrease

    Feel : V-Torque felt stiffer than V-Rex, softer and felt like it pocketed more right off the stringing machine. It definitely had more bite than V-Rex.

    Spin : Spin was great, better than V-Rex, as noted, the string seemed to have more bite.

    Comfort : Felt a bit stiffer than regular but was still comfortable at tension

    Durability : String broke in 2 1/2 hours of use.

    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time) : For the 2 1/2 hours it was in there, it played fine. :)

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?) : String performed well on all strokes and at all swing speeds. Control was great and spin was evident and tight. At net, the string pocketed and was responsive.

    Compare to the string you use most often

    This string has a bit more spin potential than V-Rex 16L, an old Volkl product. It may be a bit stiffer than V-Rex at the same tension.
    There was nothing extraordinary about the string, it wasn't more powerful than V-Rex and control was as good as V-Rex.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?) I probably would have backed the tension down to 50 to avoid some of the stiff feeling and hopefully to add some life to the string.

    List any final thoughts. Nice string, in the 99S the 16 or better a 15L would be more appropriate.
     
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  10. TW Staff

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    Hi Playtesters!

    Hope everyone has received their string (or will shortly). If you could please not reserve posts for your reviews that would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Brittany, TW
     
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  11. SteveI

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    Hi Brittany,

    While it is pleasure and honor to be part of these playtests, I wonder if you could explain why reserving space for our posts creates a problem on your end? Do you feel that creating a placeholder in someway comprises the integrity of the playtest? Playtesters have been doing this for quite a while.

    Thanks for all your hard work and your attention to my question.

    Regards,
    SteveI
     
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    SteveI,

    I ask this and will ask this for a variety of reasons going forward in playtests. Mostly it is to help the other readers in the thread. Most times people don't go back pages in a thread to read a review that is constantly being updated and just go to first unread post. Since you had already started writing your review, I left it so you are good to go.

    Thank you for your understanding!

    Brittany, TW
     
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    Thanks...

    Have a great night!
     
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    Sorry about that, chief!

    I have completed the string test, thanks for allowing me to participate. I hope the above review meets or exceeds your expectations.

    Thanks again,
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  15. Brian11785

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    Me: 3.5 who prefers singles; two-handed shots on both sides; mostly hit pretty flat but like hitting spin for angles. Starting to slice more.

    Tension used for playtest: 59 mains/57 crosses.

    Regular string set up: Cyberflash 16 @ 60 in mains with either synthetic or natural gut at 60 in the crosses. Used to go full bed of Cyberflash 60/58.

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Yonex RQIS 1 Tour

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    Power of test string: I’d say this string was marginally but noticeably more powerful than Cyberflash. So medium-low. One indication was that many of the defensive block shots that usually stay in with my regular set-up were landing out.

    Feel: Definitely better feel than a full bed of Cyberflash. Comparable to a Cyberflash/syn gut hybrid. Particularly when I kept mechanics simple, very responsive. I could really feel the strings/ball and what I was doing with them.

    Spin: Predictably, the spin potential was better than with my regular thicker, smoother poly. No effort at all to get some nice grab on spin serves. Could also very easily hit the service boxes for angled groundstrokes. Slices felt sublime, though I don’t think I got quite the low skid I normally do.

    Comfort: Comfortable but crisp. One thing about the RQIS that I don’t find ideal (compared to the RQIS XL, my normal frame) is its lack of crispness. This string provided that crispness and bite that the frame was previously lacking.

    Durability: Will see. The strings look/seem a lot more durable strung than they did in the package.

    Playability Duration: Will see.

    Control: A smidge (REALLY just a smidge) unwieldy compared to my normal set-up, but I think upping the tension a few pounds might put it right where I’d want it.

    Tension recommendations: I’d say string at your normal poly tension. I went conservative and strung a pound looser than I usually do full poly. It probably wouldn’t make much of a difference, but I’d just go back to my normal tension, if I strung these again.

    Miscellaneous: The pictures of this string do not do justice its abilities to blind. Would like to try the 16 gauge.
     
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  16. datsveryinterestin

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    VOLKL V-TORQUE 17g PLAYTEST

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    conditions - 44 degrees F with 20mph winds :evil:
    don't hate.. i did what i could in unseasonably cold midatlantic. trust me i would have preferred an outdoor league match in 75F!
    due to bad conditions i only used very old balls to practice serves and hit groundies with against a wall. i've gotten used to demoing racquets in this kind of test though so i have a decent idea on how it would play in a match. however, i hope to take it out again (after next snowstorm and before strings go dead) when it warms up a little!

    Tension used for playtest - 54m/52x
    Regular string set up - maxim touch 17g 56m/enduro pro 17g 54x
    Racquet brand and model used for test - Yonex RDIS 100 mid

    Power of test string - 8/10 i thought this string had just the right amount of power. i could get depth easily and if balls went long i could correct and reel the power in by putting more spin on the ball (by changing grips or swinging faster)

    Feel - 8/10 it was comfortable. no vibration even without a dampener. but it was not mushy either. comfortably crisp? i have been having wrist pain with other poly strings but after testing i am positive this string would not cause similar "wrist crunch" pain. i usually use tec black code 17 or enduro pro 17 and this was noticeably more arm friendly than both of those.

    Spin - 8/10 i only tested serves due to weather conditions.. but i was pleasantly surprised by the topspin i was getting on my 2nd serves. i was getting more clearance over the net and it seemed to really jump after it hit the court. i did sacrifice some pace from my normal setup but the tradeoff would be higher serve percentages that still had good movement, spin, and kick that would probably yield more wins in matches.

    Comfort - 9/10 reshly strung, it was firm (like 15g syn gut firm, not ALY power rough firm) but not hard on wrist, elbow, or shoulder, even in cold weather. i will have to take it out again in a few days to determine overall comfort. the Yonex RDIS100 mid helps all strings, but i was expecting more vibration from the full poly string. but it felt so nice i was able to remove the dampener and hit. it did not give off a high pitched PING or feel uncomfortable at all. truly a pleasant hit!

    Durability - TBD - 2 hours in and feels just like new still\

    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time) - TBD - only hit with 2 hours so far...

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?) 7.5/10
    ahh, this is what i have the most trouble with when playing full poly strings. i hit what i think should be a down the line winner and instead with some polys it can be a loopy winner or a shot into the fence. (whereas with a multi mains i just KNOW where the ball is going to go before i swing) but even though i havent found the poly that gives me this kind of confidence yet, Volkl Torque 17 came pretty close.
    It gave me too much power a few times but if I didn't try to DRIVE the ball but instead tryed to LOOP the ball in aggressively, it did great! If you have a low to high topspin stroke this string will really reward you.
    even though the string bed was pretty firm, my slices seemed to float a bit more than i would have liked.

    Compare to the string you use most often - it felt more like a shaped, extra firm, synthetic gut than my usual poly strings. it really is a 4th generation poly that blurs the line between soft poly and firm synthetic gut. the ridges on the string really seemed to grab the ball and be fairly durable. more comfortable than Enduro Pro and Black Code 17. Enduro Pro can feel stiff/metallic and Black Code can feel stiff/plastic whereas V-Torque felt more like a very tight nylon/syn gut string.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?) -
    i've recently discovered that i've been stringing most of my polys too high (56-60lbs in 93&96"racquets)...(((not that i've played badly at this tension but that i could have had easier matches and not developed wrist pain)))and while it has helped with control, i've been losing out on some of the massive spin and power capabilities.
    There is a fine line to get the control to power ratio right with a lot of polys. However, Volkl V-Torque seems very powerful in 17g, so i would not lower tension on this one. 54/52 in my 93" RDIS100 mid felt right to me.

    final thoughts - i felt mixed on V-Torque compared to my multi/poly hybrid in a midsize frame. yes, i think it would help with consistency and on 2nd serves to make sure they go IN and maybe with more clearance & spin to keep it out of the returner's strike zone. balls really hopped off the court with topspin using this string and i could feel the string grab the ball when brushing up on 2nd serves.
    i could also see how this string would be great for a baseline aggressive moonball type of game because you could get tons of height and spin over the net but still keep the ball in play forever. but with my yonex rdis100 mid, i usually play a different style.
    i go for big serves and try to force short balls and finish points early. i felt like i get more MPHs with my regular setup and prefer the lower and faster trajectory that my hybrid offers. however, i would not want to play an advanced player on clay using v-torque 16g plays with a Head Extreme or Babolat Pure Drive.
    i also tried a few other racquets with other strings on the day, BLX PRO TOUR with 3 week old genesis TYPHOON 50lbs, BLX PRO TOUR with BLACK CODE 55lbs, and RDIS100 with MAXIM TOUCH/ENDURO PRO55lbs.
    this is where things get confusing for me, because i served best with pro tour with typhoon at 50lbs but i am pretty sure a lot of groundstrokes would sail long on me with that combo in a match. both typhoon and black code felt vague at best and harsh and painfull at times when trying to crush forehands. however at medium swing speed i got great spin&power from typhoon and great spin&control from black code. my hybrid combo RDIS100 felt great when hitting hard but sometimes was too flat and not enough spin on serves.
    the playtest has me curious about the differences people will find between the popular Volkl Cyclone string and Torque (i've never hit w/ cyclone but have been drop-shotted by it a fair amount!)/
    It also has increased my angst about finding the "best string" for my game and racquet. shouldl i try freshly strung Typhoon again or lowering my Black Code tension to see how they play? Or should I try new Razor Code ,Twisted Razor, or Volkl V-Pro 18g? In other words, testing strings is dangerous because there are 100s of them and factoring tension variability it can be a never ending task to find the "perfect string"!
    I have a feeling V-Torque will find a strong following of "spin-meisters" that enjoy its combination of SPIN, COMFORT, if it has good TENSION maintenance (tbd). I am annoyed with the price creep of poly strings (especially since my 10yr old enduro pro 17g poly seems to play just as good and hold tension longer than most of them) and V-torque is under 10bucks and seems to play quite well too. I don't understand why Volkl needs pink, red, yellow, black, grey, blue, and green poly string all in different shapes, but there just might be one for me among them! Some marketing major told Vokl to try every geometric shape and color combo and maybe one will stick????
     
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  17. jim e

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    Tension used for playtest: 47 lbs.
    Regular string set up: Wilson Nat. gut 64 lbs
    Racquet brand and model used for test:Head Radical Tour
    Power of test string: 8/10 After settling in , the power was excellent.Depth shots from baseline were very much in control
    Feel: 7/10 A little stiffer than other polys I have used, although I am use to nat. gut at present time.
    Spin:9/10 I would bet that this is what Volkl was after with this string.
    The ball’s rotation seemed to increase as it headed back across the net. Spin is this strings best quality
    Comfort:8/10 Very crisp string.
    Durability:7/10 Broke at the 7 hour mark. Was very playable for that duration
    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time):8/10 String played very well over the 7 hours it lasted. I did not find any dropoff in playability over that amount of time.
    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?):8/10 This string is for hard hitters looking for more control. The spin is excellent, and has a good balance between power and control.
    Compare to the string you use most often7/10. I guess it is hard to compare any poly to nat. gut, as the nat gut has the feel, along with the power and comfort. But for a poly this was a great string to hit with.A very balanced poly not too soft or stiff, but has a crispness to it.
    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)The 47 lbs seems to hit real well for me giving it the power, feel and control. A nice string for a poly.I will purchase more of this and see if I get more playing time with it before it breaks.
    Other thoughts: Great all around playability for a poly.
     
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    wow, that rqis looks brand new. are you able to get them new somewhere, or do just take special care of it?
     
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  19. Brian11785

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    I bought two almost a year ago from my local shop for $99 each, after a dream playtest. Last two they had. After the fog lifted, I realized I wasn't yet good enough to play with them as my main stick, though I love the feel/balance/aesthetics. I keep them strung, but don't hit with them too much. Maybe four hours a month.

    Ended up finding some cheaper RQIS XLs used that I like more and am using them as my main sticks at this point. But my goal is to get strong/good enough (or find the right string set-up....these V-Torques were by far my favorite yet with this racquet.) to play exclusively with the RQISes by the time the XLs wear out.
     
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  20. Bhagi Katbamna

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    Racket Used: Wilson BLX Pro Tour 2012.


    Tension used for playtest: 49 lb mains(16) 47lb crosses(20).

    Regular string set up: Volkl Cyclone 18, Kirschbaum Pro Line II

    Power of test string: Good power at this tension. More than Kirschbaum PII about the same as cyclone.

    Feel: Excellent feel on slice and volleys. Drop shots and drop volleys are controllable.

    Spin: About the same as cyclone and a little more than ProLine.

    Comfort: Important to me because I used to have elbow and shoulder problems. After 2 hours of singles, no pain. Excellent comfort.

    Durability: So far, I have played 6 hours no problems so far. Update: Just finished 2 hours of doubles today. No problems.

    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time): Excellent. Has not lost tension for 8 hours of play.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): Good control. Never felt as if the ball was going to fly.

    Compare to the string you use most often: It feels a bit softer and has a bit more spin than Proline II.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): 49 in the mains and 47 in the crosses was the right tension for a 96 sq. in racket with a 16 x 20 string pattern.

    List any final thoughts: This is a great string. It was easy to string and it plays really well. If it is similar in price to cyclone, this will be a great buy. Also, I even like the color

    Thanks to TW and Volkl for allowing me to be part of the test.
     
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  21. lawrencejin

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    A quick follow-up on my playtest (link).

    Playability duration: 4/5. After about 7 hours of doubles, the string became marginally more powerful and less crisp, while retaining very good control and spin. The change was mild and linear, and it was easy to adjust. It did not disappoint.

    Overall, Volkl V-Torque is a very good string. It's one of those strings that I can bring to a match and feel confident. The flamboyant color makes me feel like I'm wielding a lightsaber on the court, which is neither good or bad -- just funny. I won't switch to it, but I will keep a look out for its reel price.

    Thanks again, TW!
     
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  22. Laney Tennis

    Laney Tennis Banned

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    Volkl V Torque Playtest

    Tension used for playtest - 57lbs

    Regular string set up - BHBR 16main/17cross 57lbs

    Racquet brand and model used for test - Wilson Pro Staff Tour 95

    Power of test string - Power is medium to high. I'm getting very good pop when hitting through the ball, there is a certain amount of springiness to it similar to volkl cyclone tour but easier to control. Shots were coming off with excellent pace and the spin was able to keep the ball in play.

    Feel - Feel is excellent for a poly. I wasn't too fond of it in the first few hits, it felt stiff and like a board but after the string bed settled, the feel on contact is great! I literally can feel the ball pocketing and how it is interacting with my swing path. On certain touch shots I can feel the string grab the ball even though I wasn't hitting through it, that is confidence inspiring. I'd give it an above average for feel.

    Spin - Spin is above average, shots that I thought were out dives in at the last minute and causes problems for the opponents. Slice serves were comical, the pocketing and soft string bed helps to produce above average spin and a powerful shot. Even until right before the strings broke, spin was excellent, probably more spin friendly than Cyclone Tour.

    Comfort - String bed started out stiff and firm but after a bit of hitting it settled in nicely. Comfort is good if you strike the ball cleanly, off center hits were a bit jarring but that's the nature of polys, A few more days of hitting is showing this is a very comfortable string bed, soft but not mushy.

    Durability - so far durability looks to be about average, a few days into it I'm getting some notching and just a little string movement, nothing excessive to cause me concern though. Ok a couple more sessions the strings popped, the string movement was an indicator that breakage will occur soon. Bottom line, durability suffers as playability is good. If you're not hitting against heavy balls, you'll be fine. BHBR lasts me about a week, this lasted just under one week.

    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time) - string started off stiff and tight, it needs to be hit for an hour or two to settle. Once it settles the string plays nicely, the feel, tension, spin are consistent through out most of my hits, played really well until it broke. I felt it handled its best right before breakage.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?) - Control is good after I've gotten used to the power, pocketing/springiness. There is enough spin to control the power so the shots don't fly. I was able to control the trajectory on short balls and put enough spin on it to finish the point. Power and spin comes in handy on serves, drives are powerful and heavy. I thought this string had better control than the cyclone tour

    Compare to the string you use most often - compared to BHBR, it is more powerful, had better comfort but control may not be as precise due to the softer string bed. Compared to Cyclone Tour, this has just as good spin if not better, power was just a touch less, control was much better, Cyclone tour wins in durability hands down.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?) - I would string at the same tension but for those that like it a bit firmer you may want to go up 3lbs give or take depending on preference. This is a definitely a soft and lively co-poly with a touch of crispness.

    List any final thoughts - string bed at 57lbs started off very stiff and firm but settled in nicely after a few hits. Pocketing is very good similar to the Volkl Cyclone Tour, the more I hit with it the more I enjoy it. Once I've gotten used to how the string reacts to my racquet speed and swing path, I was able to control my shots nicely. Never felt like a shot will fly on me, when it does, its due to human error instead of equipment failure. I feel there is very good power and playability with this string, with that the durability may suffer a bit. I'd like to purchase a reel to try out if its under $100 but I have a feeling that's not going to happen. I break this in under a week so the cost factor will be a deciding factor.
     
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  23. TW Staff

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    Attention Playtesters:

    We have set a date for you to post your review comments. Please post by April 17.

    Thanks,

    Brittany, TW
     
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  24. ten11

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    Volkl V Torque 17g play Test

    3.5 player. play both single and double. 2 hand backhand. topspin both wing.
    Tension used for playtest: Strung at 53 main/51 cross on lockout machine.
    Regular string set up: aero pro drive original, PSGD main 55lbs, natural gut cross 55 lbs.
    Power: This string provides more power than I would like. I have to shorten my swing to keep the ball in court. The extra power might be good for play with compact swing.
    Feel: below average. I used this string in wall hitting, drill, singles, doubles, hard court and Har tru, the feel is kind of off for me. In volley, it makes a ping sound even with a dampener. overall, cannot really feel the ball.
    Spin: below average, not impressed. I hit most shots with topspin but this string doesn't provide enough spin. Normally I can see the ball jump up in har tru when hit with good brush up, but it did not happen with this string. Combined with the power it provides, I hit a lot of shots long if I take a full swing on it.
    Comfort: feel elbow uncomfortableness after each test session. I string in lower 50 and it is not comfortable at all. I played about 12 hours over two plus weeks to get a good review of this string. I have to stop playing it because the elbow uncomfortableness.
    Durability: Good. no problem there.
    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time): After playing 12 hours over 2 weeks of time, it feels the same. The playbility and tension maintenance seems all fine.
    Control(predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): below average. This might be one of the big disappointment to me for this string in addition to the elbow. The control is not good and I cannot hit confidentially with this string. It is not easy to change direction in rally to put the ball where I want to. As state above, I also do not have confidence in depth of my shot.
    Compare to the string you use most often: It fall short in following area, comfort, control, spin. I cannot play with this string confidentially during a game situation. I have to shorten my swing and once that happening, my game is off.
    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): I believe the tension I have put on is good for full poly. This is a powerful string and I don't think I can lower the tension. Because it is stiff and I felt the elbow uncomfortableness after each test session, I definitely will not string tighter.
    Final Thoughts: This string is a bit of disappointment to me. It might work in two scenarios. One is for player with short swing and do not hit with much spin. The power this string provide will make those shots easy to hit. Second, this string might work as hybrid with multi in up 50 lbs. That might provide good control and power, and also easier to the elbow. It might even provide more spin if play able to hit full swing.

    Thanks for TW to include me for play testing.
     
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  25. gtshark1

    gtshark1 Rookie

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    Profile 34 year old male. 6' 165 lbs. Solid 1st serve with kicker thrown in for 2nd and variety on 1st. Counter puncher but love to hit big forehand. Both 2 hand backhand and slice backhand. High School tennis coach and private lesson instructor.

    Tension used for playtest 58# on both Mains/Cross. 2 piece string job

    Regular string set up Beast XP is my main string and recently I hybrid it with Gosen Micro Sheep

    Racquet brand and model used for test Prince Ozone Tour 16X18

    Power of test string The power was just about perfect for my needs. A good balance of control/spin/power is important to me. I maybe will sacrifice a little power for more spin from a string but I feel like I didn't have to with the Torque. The power rating was about a 7 which is exactly what fits my need.

    Feel Tied for main highlight (see spin). The feel was amazing to me. I first took the string out and hit on a wall before a lesson. I had anticipated using another racquet for the lesson but continued with this setup for my lesson after the feel I got from hitting on the wall. The feel was crisp! Just stiff enough for control but soft enough to feel the ball. The grip or bite on the ball was absolutely perfect. Not too much where I felt like it was staying on too long and losing power, but just enough to hold and create adequate spin. Best feeling string I have experienced in years!

    Spin Awesome. I've been looking for a string like this. Its not so textured that it feels like playing with barb wire, but it has the little groves that provide just the right amount of bite without creating too much spin. Can't say enough about the spin. Perfect again for my needs. I did read another early review that said the tester was getting more kick to the serve. I didn't notice MORE kick to my serve but the same. Where I noticed the perfect amount of spin was on my groundstrokes.

    Comfort 10/10 here. Like I mentioned above in feel, I usually change racquets between hitting sessions, matches, rallying, and feeding balls for lessons. After just a short time hitting on the wall I kept using this setup to feed balls at my lesson the first trip out because the comfort and feel were great. No arm problems at all since its a softer poly. It was comfortable in all ways I utilized it.

    Durability I wish I didn't have to fill in this section yet. I want to/am going to buy another set. I started the string with about 30 minutes on a wall. Fed balls/light rallying for a 1 hour lesson. Used the same set up for a one hour match and another lesson. Rallied for about 30 minutes and then played a tie breaker. Warmed up for a tiebreaker and got 3 points in and.... pop! So the string busted after about 4-5 hours of various use. This is very surprising to me because I don't break strings. It's also odd because the string broke outside the frame which usually means miss-hit but it was a clean shot when it broke. Again I am not a big string breaker but a few things could have contributed to the early break. The match I played was against a bigger hitter than I normally play with, I was hitting a bit harder and with more spin because the string was giving me the confidence to do so, and the string broke outside of frame (throat area) which is odd. However, the other hours with the string were light ball feeding. So again, I was so impressed with the string that I want to string it up again now. I'm convinced by the playing results that this is my new string regardless of the early/odd snapping.

    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the play-ability changed over time) I didn't notice any drop off in play-ability but it didn't last me that long (see above). I have noticed other strings I tried dropped off early, but no sign in this one.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?) Slice backhand was great, 2 handed backhand was adequate, and forehand trajectory was normal for newer poly. Serve control side to side was normal. Volleys were crisp and to the aiming spot. Very good performance in the control area.

    Compare to the string you use most often Similar but not same feel as Beast XP. A little softer which was good. Reminded me a bit like Red Code which I have used often. But the spin took this string above my past experiences with Beast XP/Red Code. Beast XP has ok spin for me.... Torque has perfect spin/power combo for me.


    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?) I would stay at 58# maybe bump up 1-2 just because I'm one of those odd people that like tight poly.


    List any final thoughts. I'm 99% sure this is my new string. It felt great from the time I took it out of the package. Stringing it was a breeze. The early wall session was nice and the lesson use of feeding and light rallys was a good fit. The match I played and the few tiebreakers I used it for were great. I have been testing out alot of different strings/racquets lately and I couldn't be more impressed with this string. I'm going to put it in a few other racquets that I'm using.

    Also, I have been hybriding polys for 2 reasons: soften the overall feel and cut cost. I don't think I'll have to do this with Torque. Its already soft enough while being crisp to provide feel. The cost at around $10 seems fine with me since I string my own. Finally the color was fine. I have no problem using neon green.

    THANK YOU TW and Volkl for allowing me to test the string! I'm in!!!
     
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  26. scotus

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    Scotus' Extreme Low Tension Volkl V-Torque Playtest

    Tension used for playtest
    30 lbs

    Regular string set up
    Babolat VS/Prince Beast

    Racquet brand and model used for test
    Wilson BLX Five weighted up to 12 oz.

    Ease of stringing
    The uncoiling of the string was a bit tough. The string was rolled in several different directions, so it took about 5 minutes to straighten everything out. Besides that it was a breeze to string.

    Power of test string
    Power was excellent. Enough to hit winners off flat serves and groundies yet not excessive as to be beyond control.

    Feel
    I really like the feel. Soft yet crisp. Not mushy. Not harsh.

    Spin
    Excellent. To give you a better idea, this had a tad more spin than Solinco Tour Bite 19 and Tour Bite Soft 17.

    Comfort
    Excellent.

    Durability
    I always cut out polys long before they break.

    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time)
    The string played solidly for 3 hitting sessions (total of about 8 hours) and then became unresponsive, dead. I didn't notice much of a change in playability during those 8 hours. There was no break-in period required and it played the same for those 8 hours. If there was any change, it must have been easy enough for me to adapt to it. But when it died, it was done.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)
    Even at the extremely low tension, the trajectory was low enough and very predictable, which I enjoyed very much. Both topspin and slice were easy to produce. I was also able to hit some sick drop shots.

    Compare to the string you use most often
    I would definitely consider switching to this string. My gut/poly hybrid is great, but if I want to lower tension drastically, the power of gut poses a problem. So recently I have been testing out full polys. Volkl V-Torque is a contender. In my book it beats out the 2 aforementioned Solinco strings.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)
    Those who like very low tension should not be afraid to go really low with this one. There is an ample amount of control to be had at low tensions. I suppose it would be very comfortable even at a relatively high tension.

    List any final thoughts.
    This is a solid string for those who are willing to re-string every few hitting sessions (but that for me includes most polys). You get excellent spin, precise control, great crisp feel and lots of bite with comfort.

    Thanks, TW, for including me in the playtest.
     
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  27. AC Tennis

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    V-Torque review

    For background: 47 year old 4.5 all court player, 1hbh, playing with Yonex RDiS 300 and RD Ti 80

    Tension used for playtest
    55 lbs

    Regular string set up
    Beast XP 17g

    Racquet brand and model used for test
    Yonex RD Ti 80

    Ease of stringing
    Eventhough this was a textured poly, stringing was easy. Some coil memory, but nothing that prevented easy stringing. Weaving the crosses was easy too. I usually expect some difficulty with shaped polys, but no problem with the V-torque

    Power of test string
    Power was good. I could put the ball away when I wanted without much effort.

    Feel
    For a shaped co-poly, I thought the feel was excellent. As another playtester said, Soft yet crisp. Not mushy. Not harsh. I could dropshot and angle well with this string. It also gripped the ball well due to the shape of the strings.

    Spin
    Pretty good. As mentioned above, the string grabs the ball well and imparts good spin. I still get better spin from Beast XP, as I think the ball stays on the strings a bit longer. The V-torque grabs the ball better but the ball feels like it leaves the string bed sooner. Could just be subjective feel, but that's what it felt like to me.

    Comfort
    Comfort was excellent. No arm problems and the crisp yet soft feel was nice.

    Durability
    Seemed ok after about 8hours of play. I never break poly so will cut it out when they go dead, but so far so good.

    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time)
    Again, so far so good. The strings dropped a little tension after the first hour or two, but has been consistent since them.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)
    Control was also very good. I could excellerate and hit nice spinning groung strokes yet still decellerate for touch shots and still get feedback from the strings. With stiff polys, fast shots are good, but touch shots suck. This string allows both well.

    Compare to the string you use most often
    It is similar to the Beast XP. A little less power and spin, comparable feel, more ball bite and crisper feel.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)
    I would probably drop the tension a couple lbs (from 55 to 53) to get a little more power.

    List any final thoughts.
    Very good string with good power, feel and spin and a crisp response. I still like Beast XP better, but this string is about $5 cheeper, so a definate option for me!
     
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  28. SoCalJay

    SoCalJay Semi-Pro

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    Stringing: Easy to string, no issues with coil memory.

    Tension used for playtest: 48# mains and crosses, two piece string job on a lockout machine.

    Regular string set up: Tourna Big Hitter Blue Rough @ 48#, same setup as used for this playtest.

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Volkl Power Bridge 10 Mid (93 sq in., 16x19)

    I played the string for about 15 hours of hitting on the ball machine, playing doubles, and hitting serves out of the hopper.

    Power of test string: 3/5. The string isn't particularly powerful, even strung at 48# but that's not a bad thing. The best string for me is one that isn't too powerful strung in the 40's but that will produce the spin I need and this string delivers.

    Feel: 3.5/5 (for a poly), (2.5/5 versus other types of string). I play nothing but full beds of poly I realize that, by definition, I sacrifice a lot in this category but the feel isn't bad for a polyester string. I was able to reliably place my volleys and drop shots a majority of the time. I like the crisp feel of this string and it doesn't trampoline at all @ 48# so that's a good thing.

    Spin: 4.5/5. The spin potential was excellent here for groundies and for serving. It seemed a little higher than other Volkl strings I've played (V-Pro and Cyclone) but about the same as my favorite go-to strings (Tourna Big Hitter Blue Rough and Solinco Tour Bite).

    Comfort: 4/5. As poly strings go, this one is very comfortable. I had zero pain or string-related fatigue as a result of playing with this string even after doing 2 solid hours on the ball machine -> 30 minute break -> 1 hour serving out of the hopper.

    Durability: 4/5. It has been about 15 hours of play and I've yet to break these. They have some notching but they have lasted a little longer than Big Hitter Blue Rough for me. Durability level seems to be very similar to Volkl Cyclone.

    Playability Duration: 4/5. The playability characteristics of this string have degraded very little in 15 hours. I'm happy that the thing hasn't become a rocket launcher and spin production remains high. Again, very similar to its stablemate, Volkl Cyclone.

    Control: 3.5/5. Control is about middle of the road for me. I've been able to hit balls into the corners from both wings in all areas of the court but I've had to be a little more careful (i.e. not trying to clip the lines) than usual in order to ensure that I don't hit wide or long. I expect good control since I play with a 93 sq. inch racquet but this has just been average. I don't like serving with this string because it doesn't give me a sense of command; I feel less confident in placement than with my usual setup. Pros: control is slightly above average for groundies, slice shots, volleys, and drop shots. Cons: control is slightly below average for serves.

    Compare to the string you use most often: I like this string for groundstroke rallies but, frankly, it doesn't fit my game as well as Big Hitter Blue Rough and it's more expensive too. As I've mentioned above, the spin production is on par with BHBR and it's less powerful but I don't feel like I have as much control and I didn't like serving with it.

    Tension recommendations: I always play poly between 45 and 50# so maybe this would be better if it was strung a little tighter for more control. I may order a set at some point in the future and string it around 53-55 to see if the control factor improves enough to make it shine without making anything else worse.

    Final thoughts: It's another good string from Volkl but there are some better options for my game at a similar or lower price point. Thanks TW!
     
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  29. rofl_copter3

    rofl_copter3 Professional

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    Tension used for playtest: M:55 X:52 on constant pull machine

    Regular string set up: Dunlop Black widow 16 @ 57/55

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Aeropro Drive 2012

    Power of test string: The Volkl V-Torque is a medium powered poly, not overly powerful but not dropping the ball incredibly short on normal ground strokes. Compares well with cyclone in that respect.

    Feel: Pretty crisp and clean feel for a poly. It isn't as much as Signum pro poly plasma, but not muted like Pro tornado either. I knew where the ball was on the string bed at all times.

    Spin: The best part of this string was its spin potential. It was very good, and it was a heavy explode off the court spin, not an up and down spin that sits up for your opponent spin like Kirsch. Spikey shark. Serves had good action on them, but slices didn't bite quite as much as I would prefer.

    Comfort: I do not have arm or shoulder problems so this is a little less critical for me, but this string wasn't harsh. If I were concerned about comfort I would recommend dropping the tension down to the low 50's or high 40's but it didn't have weird vibrations and was relatively soft on par with Cyclone again definitely not Black widow though.

    Durability: After eight hours of total play (probably three hours of hitting balls on the wall and with a partner and the rest of the time was sets of singles and doubles) the string is dead and moving around quite a bit. Tension is still feeling ok but the playability is gone. I should have probably cut it out at the six hour mark. I'm not a big string breaker so it's normal that it didn't break for me...

    Playability Duration: I played the V-torque the day after stringing, and it was ready to go, no settling time needed. It was very solid until the six hour mark where the life of the string was just kinda not there anymore. This seems pretty average for most poly's and I wouldn't have expected much more than that.

    Control: Another area where this string shined was control. It was predictable, and precise. The trajectory was lower than my usual Black Widow, so I did have to add a little extra height to compensate in order to maintain depth and net clearance. Volley control was great, placement was accurate and depth control was not an issue at all.

    Compare to the string you use most often: Compared to Black Widow... V-torque is not as soft or spin friendly, but its spin is heavier. It is easier to hit flat strokes with V-Torque, and directional control is better. Feel is more crisp and tension maintenance is more stable. Ironically none of this is why I choose to play BW so often. V-Torque does not have as much power as BW but it also doesn't become a rocket launcher which is a plus.

    Tension recommendations: Tension probably would have been better in the low 50's it would have freed up this string a bit in power and would have been a bit softer.

    List any final thoughts: The V-Torque is a solid all around string with no offensive qualities at all. The spin and control are at the forefront of this string and power is available but not overwhelming by any means. The only downside for me is there was nothing special about this string, It didn't have any one quality that left me wanting to hit it again. For example, I play BW in spite of some drawbacks it has because of the Incredible spin and controlled power when it is freshly strung. By the end I am wanting to cut it out just so I can restring it and do it all over again. V-Torque didn't do this for me.

    Tennis Warehouse Thank you for the opportunity to participate in another playtest and for the above and beyond customer service you guys continue to provide.
     
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  30. tyu1314

    tyu1314 Semi-Pro

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    please help me delete this post, it re post itself when i edited my review, or maybe i reply again by accident.
     
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  31. tyu1314

    tyu1314 Semi-Pro

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    Tension used for playtest: 55lb on klippermate
    Regular string set up: tourna big hitter blue rough 16gauge
    Racquet brand and model used for test: wilson blx six one 95 16x18 (2010)
    Power of test string: The string is low to mid power .The string has lower power than my usual set up. When I was play testing this string, I swing much harder than I usually do, yet the ball can still land inside the line.
    Spin: The spin is above average, a little bit less than bhbhr, pretty close to cyclone. The spin production on both ground stroke and serve are really nice. I think even though the spin production is less than my usually setup, but I was able to hit more spin because it is less powerful and allow me have a bigger swing.
    Comfort: The string feels stiff when it is freshly strung, but after 30min-45 min of hitting, it feels much more comfortable. The string gives a crisp and comfortable feel. The comfort is average comparing to newer generation poly. I experience no pain or any discomfort during this play test.
    Durability: Same as most of the poly in the market, the string lasted me about 15-20 hours till it pop.I never really care about the durability of the poly, since they go dead long before they break.
    Playability Duration: After 10hours it play much better than my usually set up, the playability declined, but not as much comparing to other strings I tried, alu rought,rpm, or bhbr. It plays decent until it pop.
    Compare to the string you use most often: Comparing the bhbr 16g, less pin, less power, crispier feel, less comfort, same playability, better playability duration and nicer color. It is a nice string, I really enjoyed the playtest. The neon green color looks really nice on a nice sunny day.
    Tension recommendations: 53 on a open string pattern, and 50 on a dense string pattern.
     
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  32. LanEvo

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    Tension used for playtest: 50/52

    Regular string set up: Kirschbaum Super Smash 50/52

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Babolat Pure Storm Ltd. GT 2009

    Power of test string: This string is in the mid-power range I would say, more power than my normal setup. I found it easier to generate power on my shots, which allowed me to really swing through the ball.

    Feel: Definitely a nice feeling string, much more softer and more cushioned than my normal setup, almost perfect in my opinion, but just not enough crispness as compared to Super Smash, I guess you could say this string is like a pancake when the Super Smash is like a waffle, a bit harder, but both tastes good (bad analogy? hopefully you get the picture).

    Spin: What can I say, I get very good spin with this string, definitely way about average, spin came very easy for shots, I would say due to the shape of the string, like 3 tubes stuck on together to make a triangular shaped poly but round at every side.

    Comfort: Of all the polys I have ever tried, for some reason, this is the softest I have ever used, and I mean this in a best way. I found it very soft right off the stringer and as the tension dropped even more, it got even softer which allowed for very nice ball pocketing.

    Durability: I have about 8 hours or so on the racquet now, and the strings are still in place, with minimal tension loss from what I can tell.

    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time): Overtime, as the string started to drop in power, I would the stirng to get softer which led to more ball pocketing, but playability and touch, with power and all stayed the same, I did not notice any big changes even as the tension dropped.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): I found control to be good, great if you were to hit with spin. But in hitting straight shots where you swing across the body, that is a weakness, I dont know if it was the texture of it or what, but I found myself not able to hit finishing flat shots down the long, I have to swing up on the ball to get spin on it for that to work out.

    Compare to the string you use most often: Compared to the Super Smash I usually use, this string is much softer, has more power and generates more spin. Overall I find this better than my normal setup, although the category this string loses in is crispness, because of the softness, many times when I swing through it feels like I am hitting butter, and I do not get that crisp feel compared to the Super Smash off of a very nice volley, smash, or hard forehand down the line.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): I would definitely recommend something around 50, it offered me the best of everything in all categories. Anything hard may make it too stiff, and any thing too low would make it overly soft.

    List any final thoughts.: Without a doubt, I guess I should say, I will be switching to this string for the foreseeable future. I find this an improvement over the Super Smash and any shaped poly I have used in the past. The string is not as crisp as strings that I have used in the past, but I adjusted easily to the difference.
     
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  33. dhdriver

    dhdriver Rookie

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    Tension used for playtest: 52 lbs on a drop weight
    Regular string set up: Volkl Cyclone 18 at 52/50 lbs
    Racquet brand and model used for test: Yonex V-Core Tour 89

    Power of test string: A pretty powerful copoly. More power than Volkl Cyclone for sure. Easier to generate power with this string but it wasn’t too much.

    Feel: It felt somewhat mushy to me at first. As the tension dropped it began to feel better like a normal poly.

    Spin: It had a lot of spin potential. However I feel like I got more spin out of Volkl Cyclone probably due to the stiffer feeling. But it has noticeable spin potential.

    Comfort: It never felt stiff or boardy. It was pretty easy on the arm. It just felt mushy then felt normal again. Maybe next time I’ll lower the tension a bit to get that more consistent feel. Even after the tension drop the strings still felt soft.

    Durability: I’ve had my racquet strung for a few weeks now and probably played about 6 hours on them. Besides the tension dropping, I think the strings are not close to snapping.

    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time): I think at the tension I strung it at there needed to be a break in period. I think if I strung it lower it would’ve been perfect from the start. I think the strings felt better at a lower tension. I was able to find the depth in my shots that I normally would with my regular set up. I was also able to find the spin I need for my serves. Even after the 6 or so hours the strings are still playable.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): I think the strings had great control. I was able to hit the areas I wanted with the spin I could generate with. Being a more powerful racquet than my normal set up I had to brush the ball more to get the same shots I normally would. Overall it has great control.

    Compare to the string you use most often: I like it but I would probably stick with Volkl Cyclone 18 just due to the lower power of the string as well as the spin I can get with it. V-Torque has more power than Cyclone. It also seems softer than Cyclone as well. Maybe it’s a good string for those who are trying out polys for the first time or so. It has a unique feel to it as well. The design of the string definitely stands out.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): For midsize racquets I recommend going a little lower, maybe I should have done like 52/48 instead of just 52. It felt mushy for some reason and really low powered but after an hour or so it began to shine. For MP I think low 50s should be fine. I don’t think it’ll feel great at a upper 50 tension because it may feel boardy.

    List any final thoughts.
    Yet another great string from Volkl. It’s great spin potential. Just isn’t the string I would.

    Thanks TW for allowing me to be a part of this play test!
     
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  34. dangitaaa

    dangitaaa New User

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    Tension used for playtest: 48lb Very easy to string
    Regular string set up: Volk Cyclone/ Prince Synthetic gut 48/52
    Racquet brand and model used for test: Prince Rebel 95 (2009)
    Power of test string: Low-Mid. The ball speed is significantly slower than my normal set-up on both ground strokes and serves. Some of my ground stroke land shorter than expected.
    Spin: The spin is average, comparable to cyclone and just how I like it.
    Feel: Full poly bed felt very mute, that is why I usually go with hybrid. Other than that, it was crisp.
    Comfort: The string bed at 48# was very stiff in the beginning; my elbow did not like it. After 1hr of hitting it was crisp and somewhat playable.
    Playability Duration: The string pop in the middle of the string bed after 5hrs of play. A little bit unusual for me; I usually pop my cyclone after 13-17 hrs. Playability remains consistent throughout the short play test.
    Compare to the string you use most often: V-torque has a lot of characteristic of cyclone. It’s a bit softer, lower power, and not as lively as cyclone.
    Control: Predictable bounce and ball path after adjusting for the sting low level of power on ground stroke and serve. Did not like the control of touch shots due to the lack of responsiveness and feel of the string.
    Tension recommendations: If I play with full poly, I would string it at 40# or normal tension for hybrid.

    Thanks Volkl and TW for the playtest :D
     
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  35. jonestim

    jonestim Professional

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    Me:
    40 year old 3.5. Playing for two years. Semi Western FH, OHBH.

    Tension used for playtest
    45 on drop weight

    Regular string set up
    Still looking. Recently have used BHB7 16, Genesis Hexonic 16L and Iontec Black 17 after using OSGM for the winter.

    Racquet brand and model used for test
    Prince Tour Diablo Mid

    Ease of stringing
    Not bad. Some coil memory, but nowhere near Hexonic.

    Power of test string - 3.5/5 for poly
    I would call it slightly above average for a poly. More than Hexonic, less than BHB7 and Iontec Black 17. It was just about perfect for my forehand, but my weaker backhand could have used a bit more. If the temperatures were warmer (played mostly in the 50s and up to 63 degrees) it would be good for my backhand as well.

    Feel - 4/5
    A well struck forehand was perfection. Crisp, but not harsh. My net play is a bit suspect but I did not have any issues with V-Torque. Does not feel quite at nice at net as Iontec Black 1.20, but good enough.

    Spin - 4/5
    Spin was quite good. It wasn't quite up to BHB7 levels for me, but it was more consistent. I wear the edges of BHB7 after 4-5 hrs and the spin starts to deteriorate. The shape of this string stayed true through the playtest, so while spin at the beginning was not quite up to BHB7 I belive it to be equal about hafway through the string life and probably more at the end just because the spin does not seem to drop much with V-Torque as I played..

    Comfort - 3/5
    Good, not great. The first day out the temps were about 48 degrees when I hit the court and dropped some from there. I had just cut out Iontec that I had been playing with in those temps and that didn't bother my elbow. V-Tourque unfortunately did. I took a few days hitting with my EXO3 Tour with gut/poly to let the tenderness go away and then only played the V-Tourque indoors and when the temps were at least in the mid 50s. I didn't have any more problems after that. Don't play poly's below 50 degrees. It will be close to 70 this weekend and I will probably end my playtest after a couple more days on the court.

    Durability 4/5
    These notch less quickly than both BHB7 and Iontec. This is a string I will cut before it breaks, which is the case with all but one poly I have used (Iontec 1.20)

    Playability Duration 4.5/5
    I was impressed with how consistent it played over the 10 hours I hit with it. A very good string for the full duration is better for me than a string that is spectacular to start and then dies quickly.

    Control 4/5
    Consistent and predictable. Not a lot of launched shots.

    Compare to the string you use most often
    I just switched to this racquet this winter and have not yet found my go-to setup. Compared to what I have played lately:
    V-Torque vs Hexonic - V-Torque has similar spin, more comfort, more power, longer playability
    V-Torque vs BHB7 - V-Torque has less spin to start, more at the end, a little less comfort, a little less power and longer playability
    V-Torque vs Iontec Black - V-Torque has more spin, less comfort, less power and slightly longer playability

    Tension recommendations
    For this time of year I would have liked to string it up a couple pounds lower, but for temps above 60 it was great.

    List any final thoughts.
    This is a really good string. I need consistency in my play and I think this string would fit the bill. It seemed to be above average in all aspects and I didn't really find a weakness. I have a few others to try this spring but this is in the running for my setup for this summer. I am usually quite cheap and like to see pricing a couple bucks less per string job but if the playability stays longer it is worth the extra money for me. I will probably try the 18g in search of a little more pop and spin.
     
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  36. Six.one.touring

    Six.one.touring New User

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    Volkl Playtest

    Tension used for playtest
    55 lbs

    Regular string set up
    Luxilon ALU Rough
    Full bed

    Racquet brand and model used for test
    Wilson k.six.one 90

    Power of test string
    5/10
    Compared to my current setup this string is slightly lower powered than ALU rough. If I strung it 3-4 pounds lower I would’ve have been more satisfied because the forehand wasn’t producing the same pace as ALU Rough. Overall I think the power is right where it needs to be.

    Feel
    4/10
    The feel was inconsistent. I had trouble with touch shots and even after 10+ hours of play I still do not have the confidence to play soft volleys or short drop shots. The slice was decent but sometimes it would float.

    Spin
    8/10
    The spin production exceeded my existing set up. I think this is where it excelled. I definitely was getting more spin out of the backhand and kick serve.

    Comfort
    7/10
    I found this string to be very comfortable. I had no strains or injuries and it definitely felt much better than the ALU rough which is very stiff.

    Durability
    3/10
    I found that the durability wasn’t as good as I like. After I played for the first 3 hours, I noticed the string was coming apart a little bit. Later with further playing, it started to fray a bit so after about 10 hours is its lifetime.

    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time)
    The duration only had a minor effect on the playability. I think the durability of the string and my getting accustomed to it cancelled out. Hopefully the durability of the string was only a minor defect for my case. If so I think the playability would have improved.

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)
    Very good predictable trajectory on the one-handed backhand both slice and topspin shots
    Inconsistent trajectory Volley
    Inconsistent spin serve at times
    Fast swing Forehand had some less than desirable performance

    Compare to the string you use most often
    Not as powerful or consistent as my usual string. It is however much more comfortable and achieves greater spin.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)
    I would lower the tension to 49/47 to increase the power a bit. I was not getting the same pace for the forehand and had to change hitting style to achieve something comparable to my normal style.

    List any final thoughts.
    I felt like this string could be really good if the durability is better. I think the performance degraded as the string started to unravel. Otherwise, this is a competitive string with a bold color.

    Thanks TW and Volkl for the opportunity to playtest this string
     
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  37. TheLambsheadrep

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    Tension used for playtest: 57 lbs
    Regular string set up: Kevlar/syn gut hybrid @ 57 lbs
    Racquet brand and model used for test: Head Pro Tour (Trisys 280)
    Power of test string: This string seemed pretty in line with other 17g polys I’ve used. It’s definitely for people that bring power to the table, and I wonder if the shape had anything to do with it 6/10
    Feel: Since I’m used to Kevlar, there was no problem for me in terms of comfort. There was a different feel at contact for me, though, and I’m thinking it’s the shape. This was the first shaped string I’ve used, and I think I like it 8/10
    Spin: Again, since was my first shaped string, I was loving the spin and seeing the difference. I have been learning some different techniques with my forehand from the boards, and I believe the string accentuated the positive effects. Very comparable to my normal kevlar 9/10
    Comfort: Nice and crisp, the way I like it. Like I said above, no comfort issues, very pleased 9/10
    Durability and/or Playability Duration: I’m not known to be a string breaker, and that holds true for this play test. I feel the deadness of poly more on my serves than on ground strokes, so the strings went from competitive to casual use. The overall drop in playability wasn’t too bad 8/10
    Control: It was an interesting experience to have a string increase spin to a noticeable degree but not inversely effect control. After getting used to the spin, control was there, just modified to fit the spin. Any 3.5+ player would know what I’m talking about 8.5/10
    Compare to the string you use most often: Compared to Kevlar, it was a “little less” in few departments (crispness, durability) but a “little more” in a few, too (I’d say feel, power). It’s hard to pull me away from Kevlar, but I really want to explore shaped string if they play like this!
    Tension recommendations: I wouldn’t change it, I like high tension regardless of string.
    Other thoughts: Can’t wait to try other shaped strings, and great job Volkl!
     
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  38. XFactorer

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    Unpredictable.

    Tension used for playtest - 52lbs

    Regular string set up - Volkl Cyclone, 18 g at 48 lbs

    Racquet brand and model used for test - Yonex VCORE Tour 89

    Power of test string - 5/10
    Feel - 7/10
    Spin - 5/10
    Comfort - 7/10
    Durability - 9/10

    Playability Duration - The string felt good right after stringing. But, that's about it. And it only felt so good. It wasn't mushy nor was it crisp. It was soft for a poly and it played about the same for a week.

    Control - The string was really unpredictable. The trajectory was rather low and I kept hitting balls into the tape. I made a lot of unforced errors (where the ball just didn't go over). The string bed really didn't react the way I was used to when I have Cyclone or anything else in it.


    Compare to the string you use most often - I like Cyclone 18 in my racquet. This one felt softer and a little more comfortable upon impact, but, that's not to say that Cyclone is uncomfortable by any means. This is just softer. Stringing was a lot easier as well - doesn't have much coil memory and was very soft as a poly.

    Tension recommendations - I would recommend this as a low tension string. Even at low tensions, I couldn't get much of a trampoline effect. The string didn't offer power which is fine for a big hitter. But, the string also didn't offer much spin. Perhaps this is a string where it's better if it's hand-strung or strung at a ridiculously low tension.


    List any final thoughts - I did NOT like this string at all. The ball flew off the racquet unpredictably. Most of the time I'd hit the tape with my regular swing. I couldn't generate enough spin with it to keep the ball in if I drastically arced the ball. It's a soft, easy to string string and I liked that a lot. But, I really wouldn't play with this string even if someone gave me a second set.
     
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  39. pfchang

    pfchang Professional

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    4.0-4.5 player, baseliner, flat/spinny FH, 2HBH

    Tension used for playtest
    54 lbs on dropweight

    Regular string set up
    Solinco Tour Bite Soft 17 @53
    (alternates b/w Tourna BHB7)

    Racquet brand and model used for test
    Head IG Radical Pro

    Ease of stringing
    Pretty simple to string, no real problems. Glided along.

    Power of test string - Low-Medium
    String provided ample power, overshot a little sometimes, but that was due more to the racket than the string. But for the most part, provided good depth for me on most shots. Worked very well for my BH, shots were going in deeper.

    Feel
    The feel of the string was pretty comfortable, A little less stiff than TBS17, a bit firmer than BHB7, and maybe about the same as Volkl Cyclone 18. I generally like full beds of softer poly, and this almost fit the bill perfectly.

    Spin
    Upon initial examination of the string, you can see that it's shaped like the Mercedes Benz logo, and you would think that it could give off some major spin. However, I didn't really notice any more extra spin than normal. I'd say its probably a bit less then BHB7 and TB Soft.

    Comfort
    I thought the string was perfectly comfortable, as the feel is about what cyclone feels like. I usually don't have too many problems with poly, (I can handle TB 17 at 57 in an APD without any real problems) and this string actually felt pretty comfortable. Like I said earlier, a bit stiffer then BHB7, but still pretty soft. Not sure if my comfort rating will really mean much, not too sure if my robotic arm will apply to other people :)

    Durability
    The string is pretty durable, I usually cut polys out almost right before I break them, and this one is still in my racket. Hasn't really notched too much for me which is impressive.

    Playability Duration
    I've probably hit around 8-10 hrs with this string and I have to say I'm quite impressed with the playability. I'm usually not the best judge of when a string starts to deteriorate, but it really hasn't begun moving around too much.
    The string certainly doesn't feel dead to the point where it needs to be cut out yet. And there hasn't been any significant notching thus far.

    Control
    I'm pretty satisfied with the control of the poly, there aren't really too many polys that i've come across that have lacked control, I think the only one i've really hit with that I had to cut it out immediately was polyfibre hexablade? Although this string is far from that. I wouldn't say it's as good as BHB7, RPM, TB in the first couple of hours, but it definitely performs a little better after the 5 hr mark.

    Compare to the string you use most often
    The strings i've used most often as of late are the following:
    BHB7 17
    RPM Blast 17
    TB Soft 17 (string of choice for now)

    Strings i've just tried recently once:
    MSV Focus Hex (old version)
    Volkl Cyclone

    I'd say TB and BHB7 are my top 2, and I'd probably place Volkl V-Torque a step higher then the other strings i've used. The spin you get from TB and the plush feel of BHB7 is second to none. I'd maybe say that V Torque is about a hybrid of both, but on a lower quality scale.

    Tension recommendations
    I played at 54, and I'd stick with usual poly advice, probably string no higher than 55. Of course it also depends on the racket.

    List any final thoughts:

    I think it's one of the better strings i've tried (I haven't tried an excessive amount like some of the other big names on the forum), but compared to the brands i've normally used, I'd say it was definitely a good string. I would almost certainly buy it to try again, but I probably wouldn't keep it as my string of choice. For now, my top 2 picks are BHB7 and TB Soft. I plan on trying the Yonex Polytour Pro sometime in the near future.

    Anyways, thanks to TW and Volkl for the opportunity to playtest and it was an enjoyable playtest. :)
     
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  40. tennisnj

    tennisnj Professional

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    Me--5.0+ baseliner 2 hands on both sides.

    Racquet--Becker V1 OS Mid-tension (55 lbs)

    Regular String Set up---Always changing, rarely if ever have a go-to string, but have lately been experimenting with very loosely strung polys & syn guts.

    I had no issues stringing it up on my Klippermate.

    Power: I'd give it 7 out of 10. Definitely more powerful than the Volkl Cyclone I had in the racquet prior, & definitely not an uncontrollable power (although control is absolutely not an issue with my game regardless of string & setup)

    Feel: Again 7 out of 10. No complaints here, again better than Cyclone.

    Spin: I can't give it a rating b/c I don't generate much spin even with the 'most spin' strings & it did nothing to impact me positive or negative.

    Comfort: 10 out of 10. More comfortable than Cyclone & other polys I've used, but discomfort is never an issue with me with any strings.

    Durability: 10/10 I only played with it about 6 hours, but no issues whatsoever maintaining tension & no notching or movement.

    Control: 10/10 Never an issue for me, I didn't notice anything lacked in the control department. Could swing freely w/o any issues anywhere in the court.

    Thought the string was terrific for power & control on my groundies, terrific for volleys, but was very lacking (for whatever reason) with power for my serve. Did nothing to improve depth or power there.

    I'd even try this string again & drop tension to 50 or lower.

    I would compare this to Genesis Hex b/c I absolutely loved that string & noticed very similar playability & as much as I prefer syn guts, I would go back to V-Torque & Hex again & again if I wasn't into trying all different strings. Not to mention my favorite color is green & that automatically made this string intriguing for me to try again.

    Thank you very much for the play test opportunity, sorry for the deadline posting & I look forward to more in the future.
     
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  41. gtshark1

    gtshark1 Rookie

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    This string test produced some very positive reviews. One of the better in overall positive feedback that I have seen.

    I know after my resource ends in which I get free string, I will be switching to this string. The Volkl V-torque was the best string I have tried.
     
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  42. Torres

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    How does a monofilament start fraying and unravelling? :confused:
     
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  43. g4driver

    g4driver Hall of Fame

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    I love everything about this string with the exception of one thing:

    1) It's durability

    Ok, I have a Steam 99S and it is a 16x15 pattern, but I break 16g V-Torque faster than any poly, including 17g polys like Head Hawk. V-Torque breaks at eight sets max in doubles, and around five sets if I am playing singles.

    Wish Volkl would make this string in 15G since it doesn't last as long at Cyclone or Cyclone Tour.
     
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  44. KYHacker

    KYHacker Semi-Pro

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    Some of the polys start to shave filaments out of the monofilament. This typically happens to me on the crosses while the mains just notch. I have had this occur on several string jobs with Proline X and some other strings. Happens at the end of playability when there is about 2 hours of life before breakage.
     
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  45. SteveI

    SteveI Legend

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    Hi you cannot shave filaments from a "mono" filament string. You can indeed shave them from a multi. You might be seeing the outer wraps being shaved from a mono for sure... but not the core.. :)

    I also really love this string. It is a wonderful deal in the OEM package.
     
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  46. g4driver

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    SteveI,

    Any idea how I can get longer life from 16g V-Torque? I am getting 8 sets max from the VT/Head Hawk setup. I have been using 16G V-Torque / Head Hawk 16G at 57/54 lbs in my Steam 99S frames since early this spring.

    I might go back to 16 V-Torque / WC Silverstring and see if that gives me any more life. I tried Hawk mains /VT and it was horrible. You really feel just how stiff the Hawk is when you put the Hawk in the mains. I actually cut that out today. Terrible combo in my Steam 99S frames.

    Hybriding polys is probably very rare, but the comfort and control I get with the VT/HH setup is amazing. The only thing that has come close is Pacific Tough Gut 16 / Head Hawk 17g which last four times longer than VT/HH.

    Is it the Head Hawk that is causing the premature breakage of the V-Torque? The breaks have always been on a Return of Serve from a 4.0 or 4.5 guy or my forehand. The breaks are always middle of the stringbed on clean hits, not shanks.

    I have tried full beds of Cyclone Tour and CT/HH hybrids and I actually prefer the hybrids. CT definitely last longer than V-Torque.

    Any suggestions would be much appreciated. I have broken 29 main strings since April.
     
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  47. SteveI

    SteveI Legend

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    Hi,

    I hybrid the V-Torque 17G with Forten Sweet 16G in a 16 x 19 100 head frame. I have never used a spin frame like the 99S... and I am not a string breaker by nature. I would try a nice slick poly in the crosses.. like Tourna Black Zone 16G. I have heard that folks are also using Gamma Marathon 16 in the spin frames with nice results. The V-Torque has a unique construction and that might also be the issue. Wish I could help more.. but I have zero experience with the spin frames. Good luck.. I hope you find the answer.
     
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  48. flaspur

    flaspur Rookie

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    I started using V-Torque in the mains on my Volkl V1 Pro with multis in the crosses. Love this set up. With a history of arm pain, I come off court with minimal discomfort and this for me is the set up I'll stick to. Great string.
     
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