Volley vs. Rally?

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  1. magmasilk

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    Has anyone else noticed that novices consistently confuse the term

    volley ("A shot, especially in tennis, made by striking the ball before it touches the ground") with
    rally ("To exchange several strokes before a point is won, as in tennis")?

    I have no hard stats but it does not seem related to geographic region, age, or socio-economic backgrounds. Anyone have an idea why? Do people hear the term on TV and confuse its meaning?
     
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  2. SweetH2O

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    I have never heard anyone confuse those two words.
     
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  3. zcarzach

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    I've heard it, but usually in the context of 'hey, lets volley for serve" in ping pong.
     
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  4. jonnythan

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    My friends confuse them all the time. They'll say "nice volley!" after a long groundstroke rally, even if they're playing.

    I don't correct them. It doesn't matter. They just don't know what the word volley means.
     
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    I hear it all the time.
     
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  6. LeeD

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    Beginners and novices can confuse many things.
    Hopefully, YOU as a tennis player, will not.
     
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  7. magmasilk

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    For me, it is so prevalent that there must be a systematic reason. Just one of those things I have always wondered about ... of course I never correct because it isn't a big deal.
     
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  8. musto9030

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    I think it has to do with some people being more familiar with volleyball, where every point is a volley. Most aren't familiar with the term rally. The relate volley with the ball going back and forth over the net, as in volleyball.
     
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  9. jonnythan

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    It's not that complicated. People here the word volley and repeat it. They don't understand the precise tennis meaning.
     
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  10. OrangePower

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    I've never heard these words being confused. Then again everyone I play with has been playing for a while so maybe only newbies do it?
     
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  11. Cindysphinx

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    I didn't really know the difference until I started playing. I mean, I watched a lot of tennis on TV, but you just don't hear those terms that often.

    It's like when I started playing classical piano. People who don't play will refer to playing a "song." People who play refer to playing a "piece." People who don't play see the terms as interchangeable.
     
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  12. chatt_town

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    that's funny..I've never heard them confused either. Maybe I need to listen closer.

     
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    Recall a couple years ago a few of us into office mtg small talk misusing the term volley. Went on for a couple minutes until one serious player just couldn't take it any longer,

    RALLY, RALLY, RALLY ... it's RALLY guys.
     
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  14. tennytive

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    They may be the same people who confuse Grand Slam with Major.
     
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    I'll be hitting with people and they'll ask to volley a little before we play. Naturally, I understand what they meant but just to get my point across I start walking to the net and act surprised when they tell me what they really meant.
     
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    I think that it is now fairly accepted to call the 4 Major tournaments, "Slams" or "Grand Slam tournaments".
     
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  17. r2473

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    I think there probably just visual people. Perhaps if they could sea the word their wouldn't be this problem.

    Butt-eye guess we all make mistakes.
     
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  18. LeeD

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    "Let's volley a bit before starting" ='s 3.0 player.
    "Let's hit a few before... ='s 3.5+ player.
    Now for sure, DJ can say.."let's volley a few", but he won't.
     
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  19. Big_Dangerous

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    I've never heard anyone confuse the two before. Never.
     
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  20. NLBwell

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    Surprised that so many people had never heard the terms confused. Maybe it is regional or age-related.
     
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    I have the same reaction after hearing someone say "mute" point one too many times. But in my fantasies I am banging their head into a wall while shouting:

    MOOT! MOOT! MOOT... it's a "MOOT" point.
     
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  22. r2473

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    1. mute point

    Addressing the participants of a conference call while your phone is on mute.

    It was ten minutes before Robert realized that the eloquent argument he made was actually a mute point.

    2. mute point

    something with no height, length, or width; only position, and the added quality of complete silence

    "I love deep sea diving, it makes me feel like a mute point."

    3. mute point

    Trying to make a point during a phone call while your phone is on mute. Usually occurs during a conference call.

    Bob's point was a mute point because no one could hear as he had put his phone on mute.
     
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  23. bluetrain4

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    I never hear the volley vs. rally or "hit" mistake much anymore, but I do remember when I was young (I'm 39), people would say "do you want to volley" when asking you to "hit". I probably made the mistake early on as well, but quickly learned the difference.

    But, back then, as i said, many people used the term "volley" to just mean hitting. So, if both parties understood the term and what was trying to be conveyed, I don't see the harm in the misusage of the term.

    Also, I never, now or much in the past, really heard "rally" as in "do you want to rally?" Maybe a few times, but those who didn't misuse "volley" usually just talked about "hitting" or "playing" (even if not actually playing points or sets).
     
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  24. tennis-player

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    I can't tell right from left.
     
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  25. Shaolin

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    Op: Like yourself I've heard it a confused a million times...I teach tennis and make sure beginner players know ppl mix up the terms.
     
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  26. zerojoshua

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    Hmm, good point

    I believe that I have been guilty of this more times than I would like to admit, but it hasn't ever been brought to my attention. Perhaps I will be more conscious of it in the future.
     
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  27. Steady Eddy

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    I've heard the terms confused a lot. But only when talking to people who are not very familiar with tennis. A co-worker once said, "Oh we had some pretty good volleys." And a friend said, "When we play some of our volleys go over 10 shots." And that's here in the Southwest, and I thought it was just a North Central American confusion.

    And when people hear an announcer on television say "Oh, great volley!" they interpret that to mean, "Great point", so the confusion continues. One time a journalist asked Fed if he felt more comfortable playing long volleys, Fed looked confused. So this confusion exists even with sports journalists.

    I watched a tennis video starring Arthur Ashe and Stan Smith that had Ashe specifically address this confusion. Despite his effort, the confusion continues. Also, I've never seen anyone who didn't understand the terms be better than a 1.5. So call them "volleys" at your own risk. At if an acquaintance offers to have a "volley", agree to it at your own risk.
     
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  28. Bdarb

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    when you play ping pong or volleyball, you "volley for serve". I think this is why some people refer to a rally as a volley, they've probably never heard the term rally if they don't play tennis.
     
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  29. GlennK

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    If it's regional, then count the Mid-west in there. I have heard the misuse of volley quite a bit.
     
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  30. BigBlueYanks

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    Never heard it misused before...
     
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    Everyone around Berkeley Ca. says.. "wanna Hit ? "
     
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    and when you hit more than five balls back and forth continuously, what is that called?
     
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  33. bluetrain4

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    This was a common mistake when I was growing up in the 80s. Lots of people would say "let's volley a little", "do you want to volley," etc., meaning "rally." And not exclusively novice players. It was incorrect, but harmless (everyone knew what the other person was talking about), and most people who stuck with tennis stopped using "volley" over time.

    I still here "volley" a little bit among "novices" but, generally I hear it a LOT less today, as a huge percentage of people just say "hit", as in "do you want to hit?", or "let's hit a little before we play."
     
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  34. Steady Eddy

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    Yeah, I don't use the word "rally" much. It's simpler to just say "let's hit". (Now if we could just get rid of using "love" for zero.)
     
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  35. Baxter

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    It's so common among new players that I heard the local college gym coach explain the two terms to his class on their first day on the court.
     
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