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  1. Herve

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    I use a Babolat Hybrid on my 89, Hurricane Pro 17 on the mains at 53lbs and Excel Power 16 on the crosses at 55 lbs. That seems to do the trick, considering my arm almost fell off last year, suffered CPS and TE at the same time.

    Good control and plenty of spin from the Hurricane, plenty of power and comfort from the Excel string.

    And here's the best part: when the Excel starts to fray and breaks, it's time to change the Hurricane mains as well. It's a good indicator.

    hope this helps.
     
  2. ASH1485

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    Thanks Herve.

    i have played with Excel and Pro hurricane but both on their own. i have never tried a hybrid before.

    i just bought a whole reel of Alu power ... i think i will hybrid it with excel but i am confused which should go in the mains :-?
     
  3. Herve

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    Hi Ash,

    The ALU Power is similar to the Hurricane, albeit a bit stiffer in my opinion.

    If you favour massive spin and control, put the ALU in the mains at a lower tension compared to the crosses.

    If, on the contrary, you want to more power and comfort, put the Excel in the mains and the ALU in the crosses. In that case, you can lower the tension of the ALU even more compared to the mains.

    You'll have to experiment a bit and see what works out best for you.

    Hope this helps.
     
  4. fish

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    feel of vcore 88 vs older model mid ,ti 70?

    i m using vcore 95, used older hewitt mid b 4.
    like rdis ,rds ,rdx ,mp, ti model .

    for past model .i like the feel of old model mp1,ti 88

    anyone could compare vcore 89 to these two old models ?
     
  5. skuludo

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    I played with the mp1 and ti 88. vcore 89 has more power than the mp1 and it has no dead upper hoop issue that is on the ti 88 and mp1. Control is on par with the ti 88.

    Anything else you want me to address?
     
  6. fish

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    tks sku for yr reply .
    no dead upper hoop feeling of ti mid ,it sould very good .

    in terms of power ,how vcore tour compare to mp 1??
    any review comparing these 3rkts ?
     
  7. skuludo

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    It's not just a feeling, there is a significant drop in power if you hit the 12 o clock position with the ti 70 mid. With the Vcore Tour 89 you can still get enough power to put a ball away even if you hit that spot when smashing. The mp1 suffers from the same issue as the ti 70 mid.

    In terms of power the Vcore Tour 89 is at the top. Even though it's at the top in terms of power, the power is fully under the same level of control as the Ti-70 88 mid. This means easy to use power. On top of that the Vcore Tour 89 naturally generates extra spin compared to the other two that it may aid you in hitting additional winners.

    The MP Tour-1 mid 90 just doesn't seem to be able to match the Vcore Tour 89 in power, spin, or control. The MP Tour-1 mid seems to have more of a trampoline type of string bed, which results in the ball wanting to sail a bit more. However, this does not mean that there is more speed. As you hit the ball the MP Tour-1 mid sort of flexs at the throat and absorbs the power from your swing taking ball speed away. During this event the stringbed kind of wants to trampoline resulting in a tendancy to want to sort of "fluff" the ball over the net. The result is a less penetrating shot and a lower level of control that someone can get if they used the Ti-70 mid.

    The Ti-70 mid feels like you get what you put in. The MP Tour 1 feels like you get less than what you put in. Finally, the Vcore Tour 89 feels like you get a bit more than what you put in, but that power is under control.

    Based on my own experience I don't see any reason for myself to using the Ti-70 mid or the MP Tour-1 mid. On top of this getting grommets for the Vcore Tour 89 is much easier than those other two rackets.


    I don't know anyone else who compared these three rackets.
     
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  8. fish

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    tks sku for yr reply .
    no dead upper hoop feeling of ti mid ,it sould very good .

    in terms of power ,how vcore tour compare to mp 1??
    any review comparing these 3rkts ?
     
  9. Midguytenis

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    If you are complaining of dead hoop im guessing you never played with Wilson or Head where the last 4 inches to the upper hoop is dead, i had to live with wilsons for a long time despite of that problem because it played better than the others although i didnt try many.

    I can say the Vcore 89 has no dead spot and is pretty powerful and all string bed is useful unlike any other racket i used, the 97t ia just the perfect MP as well, no dead spots neither superb racket ill be using on clay, vcore xi 98 was very nice but too light and too powerful to my taste.
     
  10. skuludo

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    I've played with Head and Wilson, and the dead hoop issue was tolerable on both for me. On the Yonex RD Ti-70 mid, it was just like a wooden racket in terms of the loss in pace if I hit the 12 o' clock position.

    I've never used the 330g 97t before. The 310g version felt more demanding than the 89t, which was strange.
     
  11. Midguytenis

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    Interesting, it must have been string tension, but if you dont have a fast swing it might be difficult to use and the vcore 98 xi will have plenty of power, but a lot of fire power. 97 310 had a Jr on AO semi using it i forgot his name, excellent player.

    330 is definitely more demanding and it takes a strong player with great technique to use it.
     
  12. Greg G

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    Still loving the sweet hitting with my 89T with black widow @ 52/50. Went back to my first favorite, tour bite 17@ 52/50, and got a sore elbow the day after! Hitting with it was great though!

    Went back to black widow after a couple weeks rest. I may try hybriding tour bite with babolat excel or n.vy. Or wait for tour bite soft.
     
  13. skuludo

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    My demo 97 310 stick was freshly strung at 52lbs with Babolat Pro Hurricane. The string did not slide back and acted more like a synthetic gut, while my 89t had Golden Set Snake Bite 16g and behaved just like modern polys. The tension on the 89t was 52lbs too.

    The Vcore 97 310 was not difficult to use; however, I was able to hit more winners with the 89t in a match compared to the Vcore 97 310. I think the string was what ruined the playtest, so it was not a fair comparison.
     
  14. Midguytenis

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    I'm using Yonex Poly Tour HS 1.30 on mine, i needed a string to last a week (4 hours hitting a day) whether dead or not, in the first 5 hours it plays very nice then it happens just like most, but I have practices with top juniors hitting heavy balls.
     
  15. OTMPut

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    Good to see TonyB still with his Polystar energy @ low tension. I must thank him for introducing me to this wonderful configuration. I had a passionate love affair with PS energy @ 35 lbs on my KPS.

    Perhaps it is time to try it on Vcore89.

    How is QC on Vcore89? Should i spend the extra $ to ask for matching service?
     
  16. dhdriver

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    So it's been a while... but I finally made the switch!

    Switched from the Head Youtek Prestige Mid. Definitely a better racquet in all departments.

    I'm still thinking about which strings to switch to. Any suggestions here? I've been considering either the Yonex Poly Spin or Volkl Cyclone. In the case of the Cyclone I am debating between the 18 or the 17 gauge. I used the 18 in my Prestige Mids but since the 89 tour is a bit more open I thought the 17 may be a bit more handy. Any help is greatly appreciated!
     
  17. boinz

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    does the majority of you guys on the Vcore or any other Yonexs play with a dampener?
    I am trying to reduce the some harshness and vibration on mine and emulate a more 'buttery and muted' feel... do believe there are silicon in the handle in mine
     
  18. Dech

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    I just tie a rubberband and everything is just fine.
     
  19. BLACKOUT

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    No dampener here, and I'm playing with Poly Tour Pro Black @ 26K
     
  20. Greg G

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    Love the paint job, but man is it fragile!
     
  21. TonyB

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    Yup, still using it. I'm actually at 34 lb. and really can't see myself changing a thing. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it for the 89 Tour, especially since you have already used it in another frame.

    QC is beyond good. I've never had a Yonex frame that didn't match its published specs. Every single one has been spot on.
     
  22. ASH1485

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    any one tried leather grip ?

    how does it play ?

    although it is perfect the way it is ... doesnt mean it can't be more perfect :twisted:
     
  23. TonyB

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    Wow, can't believe this thread was on page 8 already. This frame is probably the best 90-ish sq. in. frame available and there just is no love for it at all.

    The most amazing thing about this frame is that you can do just about ANYTHING you want with it. It's not the easiest frame to use, but it certainly can do it all. Power, touch, control, spin, feel, whatever. Every time I play, I'm continually amazed at how I have the freedom to do whatever I want. I never, EVER, feel like the racquet is holding me back from making my shots, which is the first time I've felt like that in a long time.

    I think most people out there are looking for a frame that makes their game better. This frame will not do that. Instead, it ALLOWS you to play however you want. Any shot you want to hit, you can do it with this frame. But it will not hit "easy spin" or "easy power" for you. What you put into the racquet, you get out of it. That's all that I expect.
     
  24. ASH1485

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    because it is a yonex maybe

    i mean if this was a Wilson or a Bab ... you can imagine how popular it could be
     
  25. TonyB

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    Probably right. I think there are two major problems: #1) it's a Yonex and #2) it's a midsized frame.

    But it doesn't change the fact that it's a glorious frame.
     
  26. tistrapukcipeht

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    I'm buying one of these beauties in April, it's not my type of a racquet but when I pass by the Yonex aisle and I see that racquet, I really want it, at least for the heck of having it I will get one.
     
  27. dhdriver

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    I've noticed a few of my friends are switching to Yonex racquets. They don't know why but the isometric shape of the racquets seems to attract them.
     
  28. mirceam

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    hi all. can you compare Vcore 98D or Vcore Xi98 to the 89T ? How are in terms of power, two handed backhand, serve , maneuverability ?
     
  29. dhdriver

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    I've demoed the 98D before and it was a very fun racquet. It had good pop and spin. I just felt like it was a bit light. It did feel good at net since it was lighter than the 89t. One problem for me was that it didn't feel that stable when hitting my forehand for some reason.

    From what I can recall, I was able to hit through the ball pretty well with a two handed backhand. Serves were good too, good amount of spin and control when I tried it out.

    Hope this helped!
     
  30. mirceam

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    yes . sometimes i feel the vcore 98 it's easy. for a strange reason after the first set i feel the need for a more heavy racquet.
     
  31. gambitt

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    Does anyone have a photo of the Vcore 89 and RDS001 mid on top of each other?

    Failing that, has anyone played with both of these racquets recently and if so, how do they compare?
     
  32. Sander001

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    Since the Tour89 has a small head and 20 crosses, I was thinking this may be an excellent racquet to try emulating the Steam movement.

    Has anybody tried to string it by skipping some crosses?
     
  33. Greg G

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    Iiiinteresting thought! Hmmmm...skip 5? Which would you skip? 8, 10, 12, 14..?
     
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  34. ASH1485

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    i would like to know if anyone experiment with lead ?

    i added 4 grams of lead at 12 , i did like it for a while especially on serve, but later i found that it added more swingweight to the racket which really affected my one handed back hand, i was getting late on many shots and couldnt control passing shots.

    found it much better as it is, but still i feel that it needs more weight somwhere.

    any one leaded at 3 & 9 ? how does it play ?
     
  35. dhdriver

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    I actually tried it out with lead at 12 (I think 4 grams) and it felt a little too sluggish for me. I then moved the lead to 3 and 9 (2 grams each side) and it felt a lot better. Lots of more plow through.

    However, I've grown to love it in stock form and I haven't tried to mess with lead ever since. Maybe you can add lead to the balance point and go from there?
     
  36. gambitt

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    Does anyone know if Yonex are planning to release an updated Vcore 89 model? I don't want to buy 3 of these only to find them at half the price in 2 months.
     
  37. mirceam

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    i bought a vcore 89 as a fun racket, stung with polystar energy @50 lbs.
    today i play with it for the first time. I don't have the words to describe.... everything is great . very good spin , good peace , sensation control with a sweet spot larger that a blx90 or a head prestige mp, good power. actually i can win matches with the 89. i expected a very demanding racquet but is not.

    i think i will lead up the Vcore 98D and Vcore Xi98.
     
  38. tmc5005

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    I looked at the specs for the YONEX VCORE Tour 89 Tennis Racquet and was very impressed I may consider this racquet in lieu of the YONEX VCORE 95D Tennis Racquet as one of my top 10 arm friendly racquets.
     
  39. tyzp

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    I used to play with Wilson K90s and at the time I tough that it was impossible for any other racket to be better for my game. But after some time playing with these frame my arm really started getting sore and having less and less time to play these I tough my footwork wasn't up to the task and I started looking for something more forgiving. A friend of mine advised my to try the RDX 500 mid.

    I always thought that Yonex had a weird look but friend talk with such passion about these and I found a nice deal on some of these that I decided to give them a try.

    A bought 3 and I really like how it plays not as good I think as the k90 but much more forgiving.

    But I am reading now that the Vcore 89 is the best Yonex mid of all time and am thinking that I might have made a mistake

    Can anyone compare the Vcore 89 with the Rdx 500 mid and the k90

    I am really tempted on trying the 89 but where I live there's no way to demo. I still have 2 Rdx 500 mid new never touch. Do you think I should sell them and invest on Vcore 89s?
     
  40. cmendez79

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    Has anyone put lead in this racket, I used to have lead at 12 and handle, with final specs unstrung of:

    Weight= 335.8
    Balance= 32
    SW= 319

    anyone playing with lead ???
     
  41. ASH1485

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    i did lead 4 grams at 12. found it slow and sluggish it hurt my backhand alot.

    i love it at stock form and i dont think i will lead it again. its perfect the way it is.
     
  42. dhdriver

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    I agree! Stock form is amazing!
     
  43. VeryVolkl

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    I hit with a demo of this racquet for the second time today.

    The first time I hit with it, I thought it felt sluggish and fatiguing - though I liked the feel and quality of shot.

    Today I played against higher level players (4.5) and the heft paid dividends. It was very stable and hit a heavy ball with good penetration. I was able to absorb their pace on serves and my serve had more weight than usual. As others have mentioned, in stock form, this racquet is great. I'm also trying the PB10 mid and, whereas I would call the PB10 a sweet racquet, I would call the Vcore 89 a solid racquet. The PB10 stands out in terms of feel and the Vcore 89 stands out in terms of stability.
     
  44. dadozen

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    Add me to the club. I was decided to get new VCores 95D, but just can't find any in my gripsize, and both 97T don't fit well for my game: 310g seems to be pretty light and 330g seems to be too demanding.

    Will have to use very light strings in order to keep the SW at a desirable level for me, MSV Focus Hex 1.10 is the first choice.
     
  45. MAXXply

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    Can any 89 users who have also extensively used TW POG Mids compare and contrast the two sticks? Not so much stiffness but the swingweight and maneuverability. From a stock perspective, no mods required.

    Your feedback will greatly enable this racketaholic to drink from the bottle again :)
     
  46. EC230

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    MAXXply:

    I'm sure there are others but I think I can chime in, as I have played with the POG Mid for over 20 years and made the transition briefly to the 89, both in stock form with same string and similar tension. Here's what I found:

    Power: If you have solid technique, both racquets offer similar power using the same string setup and tension. With the 89 however, you do have much more weight behind shots whereas. The 89 also offers more consistent feeling power while the POG can feel a bit too lively at times.

    Spin: As most people would agree, the POG is definitely going to offer more spin than the 89. This isn't to say that the 89 does not impart any, but with similar strokes you will notice a difference in trajectory but with the 89 I feel I was able to impart more predictable spin. Sometimes the POG can feel almost too whippy while the 89 gives back what you put in.

    Control: Both racquets offer great control, and the difference really comes down to be accustom to the way the trajectory of the ball comes off.

    Comfort: The 89 wins, especially in a full poly set up. The POG has a brassy, raw feel that every one talks about yet the 89 remains plush even with a full bed of poly.

    Groundstrokes: I actually prefer the the 89 on this, as it offers more stability and weight behind the ball as the POG. Again, this comes down to the POG stringbed feeling a bit inconsistently while the 89 offers a relatively large sweetspot.

    Volleys: POG is much quicker around the net even though their specs may deem otherwise. This is subjective however, as both racquets are quick as can be but the stability again comes into play. Against big hitters, the 89 is better able to withstand balls that heavy and with spin.

    Serves: The 89 was a better serving stick for me, with just easier power. I was able to impart just as much spin and action on the ball compared to the POG with just about the same amount of control. Most people don't really see the POG as a great serving stick, but for people that have grown accustom to the weight and balance it can be just as good as any out there... the 89 just brings a better feeling of consistency and weight behind serves.

    Side note: One of the biggest qualms I had before using the 89 was the head size but as others have pointed out, the sweetspot and stability they managed to achieve with the racquet makes it that much more impressive. And if you have been using the POG, the transition may actually be more seamless as you may think.

    If you are looking for a more modern replacement of the POG, then I would really suggest giving the 89 a try. It combines the characteristics of a lot of other great racquets including the POG, but still maintaining more attributes like feel, power, and stability.

    Hope this helps!
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  47. dadozen

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    My 3 89T's will be delivered only on Tuesday, but I managed to borrow one from a friend to test over this weekend.

    Impressions: very maneuverable indeed, as most have said, very comfortable, and the best serving racquet I have ever played with. Slice and kick serves are almost effortless.

    It plays amazing for me in stock form. I won't need any lead tape on these babies and this is great for me, because trying differente lead tape setups was driving me crazy with the IG Prestige MP.
     
  48. MAXXply

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    ^^ thanks for your comprehensive insights EC230. I too have a long history with the POG. I agree it has a "raw brassy feel"; to go to the 89 would promise a lot more comfort, which I look forward too. TW's reviews and the limited feedback on the 89 do not remark much about its maneuverability other than to say it's sufficiently quick...I once had an RDis 93 which I thought was mobile enough but proved to be otherwise. I'm hoping to avoid making another mistake like that.
     
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    ^^^ I have also looked at/hit with an RDiS 93 when I was seeking for options when moving from the POG mid, but our experiences may have been the same where the RDiS just felt sluggish despite its specs. On the other hand, from my experiences the 89 comes through noticeably quicker than the RDiS. The 89 does so with a more "weightier" feel coming through, not too different from a POG with a slighter greater swing weight similar to that of the Prince Diablo Mid.
     
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    LOL I owned a Diablo Mid once, which also went the way of my RDis 93...but with the Diablo I think I just couldn't get used to the rounder headshape and stiffer feel, not so much the balance. The 89 just seems a beefier "one stick" compromise between the 310 and 330 versions of the 97 which have also been on my horizon
     

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