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  1. edwincen

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    Every time i play with my 2 weeks old 89T i found something new, ordering some more. These is a good beautiful racket.
     
  2. dadozen

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    Just got my 3 new 89Ts and went to 1h hitting with a former pro player.

    The frame just feels rock solid and although it's demanding on its weight, I didn't have any problems swinging it, even though I was playing against a guy which is probably in the 6.5 level. I never felt I was being pushed around and could hit some nice winners both on the FH and BH sides.

    Serving is great with this racquet, and didn't have any problems with top spin on groundstrokes as others have stated( remember that I'm coming from a Prestige MP ).

    Strung with MSV Focus Hex 1.10 @ 43, the racquet felt amazing from the very first shot: nice placement, control and power in a very nice level, never felt the need to hold my swing at any moment, and it offers much more power than the IG Prestige MP.

    I could easily feel the frame flexing on some shots, which was nice to increase the dwell time, and shots hit on the top of the head didn't hurt nor felt dead.

    Strung 2 racquets yesterday and measurements were:

    Racquet 1
    Weight: 340.8g
    Balance: 31.4cm
    SW( with SwingTool app ): 319

    Racquet 2:
    Weight: 338.2g
    Balance: 31.4cm
    SW( with SwingTool app ): 323

    Both are very close to each other but I still need to string the third racquet and take measurements. But its weight and balance are very close to racquet 2, so I'm guessing that the SW won't be far away.

    Overall, I couldn't be happier with this choice: the racquet does play bigger than the 89 sq. in. head, offering a very big SS with the control and placement advantages of a mid racquet. I wouldn't say that it plays like a 95 sq. in. racquet, since it's not as forgiving, but it plays much nicer than every other mid on the market I have played with( AG/4D100, PB10mid, YT Prestige Mid ).

    Oh, and yes, it does demand a nice footwork.
     
  3. Tim

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    are the TW stats on this racket incorrect? it shows a strung weight of 12.1 and SW of 335 and I just demoed one and it was 12.1 on the nose but I didn't measure the SW. I'm trying to choose between this and the blade 18x20, I was thinking the SW was roughly similar but it looks like that may not the case, is the msv focus hex lighter than 16g multi?
     
  4. dadozen

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    Yes, MSV Focus Hex 1.10( it's important to emphazise its gauge ) is roughly 14g strung on this racquet( 326g unstrung, 340g strung ).

    Decided to go with this string because a SW in the 320-325 level is more suited to my playstyle, so the TW data seems to be correct.

    If you take a thicker multi or poly, it is heavier, making the SW reach a higher level.
     
  5. Greg G

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    Does string gauge really affect SW that much?

    Here's the unstrung specs of mine, for reference:

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  6. dadozen

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    Greg G, after experimenting with a number of strings, I started noticing that with thicker gauges I had a more sluggish swing and had more power in my shots, besides feeling the ball better on the stringbed. With thinner strings, I had more head speed, less power and the stringbed felt harsher.

    I began to suspect on the swingweight, and decided to take measurements: first weighed the same racquet with 2 different strings, and the thicker gauge would weigh sometimes 2g more than the thinner string.

    With the SwingTool app, I noticed that the SW would vary between 5 to 10 points. All measurements taken with polyester strings.

    Nice find with the YYs! Exactly matched! Did you order them from TW with the matching service?

    Just strung my third racquet and the final specs are:

    Racquet 1:
    341.1g
    31.4cm
    319 SW

    Racquet 2:
    338.5g
    31.4cm
    323 SW

    Racquet 3:
    337.7g
    31.4cm
    323 SW

    Although there's a 3.4g difference between the lightest and the heaviest racquet, the balance is exactly the same and the SW is pretty close, so I'm assuming that I won't feel a difference when rotating all three.
     
  7. Greg G

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    Thanks! Will pay attention to the string gauge. Was actually thinking of tailweighting it by a couple of grams to get it to swing around easier.

    Yes, my first 2 I ordered from TW with the matching service. The next pair I found in the classifieds. I do have to do the measurements on them (before I forget which is which, lol).
     
  8. Tim

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    what gauge is that msv focus hex at 1.10 then 19? I've always played with multis so I'm trying to figure what string would tame the power on this racquet a bit as the demo multi at mid tension had more than I like, I usually play a 17 gauge at 58lbs but maybe an 18 guage would work here.
     
  9. Brian11785

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    Demo-ing this racquet on a whim along with some more likely more practical choices for myself (Ezone Xi 98, Max 200g, X-Dual Gold 99.) It's been rainy here, so I haven't had the chance to go out and hit with it, but, upon picking it up and practice swinging it, it feels solid and, honestly, a little lighter than I expected. Putting the head against that of my RQIS 1 tour 95 XL, the only noticeable difference is that the mains were just half an inch or so shorter. Definitely doesn't look like a sub-90 frame.
     
  10. Tim

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    Just got mine from TW and have it strung with gamma professional 18, I'll get to see how it plays tomorrow.
     
  11. XFactorer

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    If you can use the RQiS 1 Tour 95 XL, you can use the 89. The RQiS has a HUGE flare at 3 and 9 and I constantly caught balls on the rim. The 89 is very similar to the regular (non XL) RQiS 1 Tour that I switched to it just fine.
     
  12. Greg G

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    Was doing maintenance on my 4 racquets- removed the over grips and head protection tape and weighed them. 3 of them weighed 341g strung with yonex damper, the 4th weighed 343g.

    The first 2 I got from TW, matched. The 2nd pair I got from the TT classifieds. Strangely enough, the one that was off was one from the first pair...

    With overgrip and head tape, the 3 weighed in at 347g, and the 4th at 348 (put a little less head tape).

    Amazing quality control from Yonex! :)
     
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  13. ASH1485

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    so satisfied with the racket, i will wait for a big discounting on and i will buy 4 matching 89s :)
     
  14. Tim

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    I have to borrow a scale to weigh mine but both the demo's I tried were 343g strung with dampener. Played doubles with my new one on Saturday and the Gamma Professional 18 @56lbs worked great. This racket really is amazing, it does everything well and as far as I can tell doesn't play any smaller than the 98's I have been playing with previously.
     
  15. edwincen

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    I'm still working for steep angle cross court stroke with this racket
     
  16. Tim

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    looks like mine is a little heftier 348 with the yonex dampener.
     
  17. dhdriver

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    For you poly users out there... I was wondering what polys you all strung your 89 tour at and at what tension. I've been using Volkl Cyclone 18 in them at 52/50. I read through the pages of this thread but I wanted to see if anyone else uses thin gauges as well. I was thinking about dropping my tension to like M52/C48.
     
  18. RetroSpin

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    Very impressed with the comments on this stick.

    If they ever go on closeout, I expect a run for them.

    I have two Bio 200's on the way, but now I'm wondering if I made a mistake. LOL. How does the 89 compare to the 95D? How about a Prestige Pro or Mid?
     
  19. edwincen

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    I switched from 95D to 89T, it's more precise in every aspect, really nice stick.
    Much more feel than 95D.
     
  20. dhdriver

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    I used the Youtek Prestige Mid before I made the switch and the 89t is so much better in every aspect. Everything was better with the 89t, especially spin and stability for me.
     
  21. ChimayBlue

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    What is the best tension or string setup for spin on Vcore 89T,has anyone experimented on that, because this is the only attribute what is maybe lacking a little on this racquet?
    Thanks
     
  22. ASH1485

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    i got great spin from the Lux Alu power strung at 50

    but reversed back to NRG2 as i hit more flat and not much of a spin user.
     
  23. edwincen

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    Tension and set up is something personal, it's you to decide how you hit and want it to feel like.
     
  24. ASH1485

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    i did the stupidest thing ever ... i added a leather grip

    it looks super amazing like wawrinka's , but thats not the point it simply doesnt play the same. the balance changed dramatically and now i want it back the way it was.

    problem is i can't find the replacement grip it came with and i will never forgive myself.

    where can i find it or is there any replacement grip closer to it

    HELP
     
  25. Tim

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    Its funny both of the rackets I demoed from TW- a 3/8ths and a 1/2 had a Wilson K grip on and I liked them so much that I replaced the Yonex grip with it on my racket. I think weight wise it must be close to the original but it is a little bit squishy, feels really nice. However if you want to get something exactly like the original I think you should search for whatever the thinnest replacement grip is because the original I took off looked very thin.
     
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  27. edwincen

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    I think only in japan you can find the original or something similar with the stock grip. I got one in white ,it's identical with one on 98xi.
     
  28. ASH1485

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    Assuming it is the same as the 97T (310g). The grip I removed from my racquet was; 12 grams in wieght. 1.4mm depth, 25mm wide and 105cm long ( angled both ends ). I hope this is of help.
     
  30. ASH1485

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    Thanks alot GBplayer,yes that was very useful

    i found the Babolat skin feel to be the closet to these specs ( 1.5 m and 16.7 grms )
     
  31. edwincen

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    Well, i think you better go with Yonex Hi-soft grip or prince resi-thin.
    I tried skin feel, yes its thin but the weight is more tha resi-thin or hi-soft grip.
     
  32. guedoguedo

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    is the rdis 100 really 93 or 90 inches? if its 90 i might as well get the vcore 89
     
  33. dhdriver

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    I am currently using the RDIS 100 Mid... it is a 93.
     
  34. Greg G

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    Am currently fooling around with a 97t 310. At first I was somewhat disappointed that it didn't feel as maneuverable as the 89t. While the sweet spot felt slightly bigger, my ground strokes felt like they had less weight to them. Serves felt pretty much the same. The 89t had Pacific Classic 16 mains and Mosquito Bite crosses @ 53/49, the 97 had the same, only 17g on the mains.

    I dropped the tension on the 97 to 50/46 and wow! Suddenly felt great on everything! No appreciable loss in control, but more pop on the ground strokes and serve. Wild probably like just a tad more plow through, will experiment with a little lead tape. Will also try that tension on the 89.

    The 2 are really very similar sticks, I could just alternate them without much adjustment. I just may use the 89 for singles and the 97 for doubles.
     
  35. ASH1485

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    just had the same thought of getting the 97 310 for doubles.
    every time i am using the 89 i tell my self i am not going to use any other racket, i got used to the this heft behind my balls and loving it.
    i dont know if i lead the 97 it can give me the same results.
     
  36. CCH4TENNIS

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    Hi All

    I have just received my VCore89 in Malaysia and wonder what strings and at what tension I should string it. My Volkl C10Pro was strung with TourBite 16G at 65lbs.

    Cheers !
     
  37. Tim

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    I have been stringing mine at 56lbs in both multi and poly and it seems to be firm but not board like. However 65lbs with tourbite has got to be pretty stiff so you could probably do it up to 60lb mains and drop the tension on the crosses a smidge, if you want to error on the lower side then try 58lbs and it should be fine. As for what string to use I would say the tourbite should work well though a c10 pro is more flexible than the 89t so you might want to use a multi cross. I'm currently using Volkl V-fuse 17 with the cyclone in the main and gut crosses all at the same tension.
     
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  38. datsveryinterestin

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    TW just sent me my Vcore89s

    Yonex850pro mains @54
    Sonic Pro 17 crosses @52

    Felt perfect!
     
  39. rdis10093

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    enjoy. they are so great to serve with.
     
  40. stronzzi70

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    anybody put some silicone at the handle in this amazing V core 89???
     
  41. Tim

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    I've not tried silicone in the handle as one of the things I really like about the frame is that I didn't have to add anything to it :). However my first frame weighed in a little heavier than spec so i had my second one matched to it, they are 12.45 oz with over grip and that seems perfect to me.
     
  42. rommil

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    Still loving this frame. Just feels right:)
     
  43. TadDavis

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    I had a chance to demo this racquet over the weekend. It's pretty much my dream racquet. Sweet spot is huge but it has so much control. It's maneuverable, stable, and just feels sweet. I usually use a ps85, and this thing felt as easy to hit with as a tweener. Doesn't have the plow through of the ps85, but I have a much easier time generating racquet head speed with it to hit the modern, whippy strokes.

    My demo came strung with multis, but I have no idea what tension it was strung at. I string my ps85 with full gut at 58. Should I stick with that or go higher with the 89? Thanks.-
     
  44. Tim

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    I would probably try 60lbs with full gut, but 58 should be fine.
     
  45. datsveryinterestin

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    i have mine for sale in the classifieds... i played amazing with them for a while.. but i definitely get easier net clearance and spin on my serve with more powerful sticks.
    mine have nary a scratch... i have yonex bags too. check out my listing if you want more 3/8 vcore89s.

    i will ALWAYS miss the feeling you get when hitting the ball dead center with these racquets and crushing first serves 120mph and the nasty low slices i got with them. but playing indoor doubles with them for some reason i am a little slow reacting with them on basic shots... so i think i should give them up.
    sigh... ill miss you VCORE89!
     
  46. XFactorer

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    I can't wait for the next generation of these racquets... maybe this current version will be one of those racquets that I buy a second one... like the RQiS 1 Tour. I know I really love the VCT89!
     
  47. rdis10093

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    the only made one rqis tour. it was red and black.
     
  48. XFactorer

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    True. That's the only racquet I've ever purchased on launch and again when it went on clearance.
     
  49. VoodooBoot

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    Has anyone had problems adjusting to the slightly offset sweetspot towards the top of the racquet due to the longer throat?
     
  50. Captain Ron

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    It took me a little while on my serves. I added a little lead at 4:30 and 7:30. It wasn't much so I think the effect was more mental.
    Anyway, I felt I could hit the ball low but higher on the racquet was amazing. Just had to get used to hitting there. Once you get used to it, it will feel great.
     

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