Wait...RG is blue clay this year??

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  1. gahaha

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    I heard something about many pros complaining that RG will be played on blue clay this year, not sure if true, but anyway Babolat is having all their APD people use the French Open paint jobs with the paint reflecting the RG red cl....oh wait its blue..??

    Sorry just did some search, thank god its only for Madrid...or is it?!
     
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  2. off_the_bounce

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    that's madrid not roland garros
     
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  3. Sentinel

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    Only Raplha complains. Has he started already ?
     
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  4. TennisLovaLova

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    Rafa doesnt complain.
    He just expresses his feelings :D
     
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  5. CMM

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    Tiriac said yesterday that he's also planning to change the colour of the ball in the future, for better visibility. He's working with Dunlop.
    This man is crazy. :)
     
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  6. decades

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    posting without research first? i never would have expected that here.
     
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  7. Rock Strongo

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    I'm imagining him billowing up a cloud of smoke and start shouting whenever someone disagrees with him, kind of like: "LISTEN TO ME FOR I AM THE RICHEST MAN IN ROMANIA!"
     
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  8. monfed

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    Blue or Red, clay SUCKS!
     
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  9. PrinceMoron

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    Wimbledon is going blue this year.

    Well for the Olympics anyway. Maybe they will like it and keep it. Oh not the grass, the screens, covers chairs etc etc. Actually, if it is going very blue I should put some money on Murray.
     
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    Murray certainly always looks blue.
     
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    Can't wait for Madrid this year, I think it's gonna be so much fun. Just hope it doesn't change the speed of clay used in that venue as it was pretty fast.
     
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    I am also anticipating this blue clay and they do have a point, unless you have high HD it is really though to follow the ball on clay.
     
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  14. christinamaniac7

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    Boy, this tiriac guy is crazy!! really what does he think with himself?
     
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  15. Bobby Jr

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    I think the blue clay idea is a good one for a number of reasons. The publicity value for a start has and will be significant, and the TV/contrast thing has always been an issue on clay. We were told it would be solved with the move to HD and larger screens but it hasn't fully. There are still issues at some venues.

    This is Tiriac being a smart businessman. If it turns out good for TV etc I suspect we'll see others lining up to do the same. Whether he can actually protect the concept of a blue clay court is another thing. He can probably patent his process for creating it but if someone else came up with their own process to achieve the same I doubt he could stop them from doing it. A colour of an existing object in-itself cannot be patented without some pretty special reasoning behind the application. A blue clay court per se would seem unable to be patented - however, different countries definitely vary greatly in how strictly or lax their protection applications are handled.
     
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    ... I am not sure what they mean about "trademark", if they mean that it is going to be what separates the tourney from the rest clay tournaments or if they actually registered the blue clay as their trade mark which would mean nobody else can uses it unless they pay lots of money to Triac & Cia.
     
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    No hard courts suck.....clay (including Har Tru) rules.
     
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  18. Bobby Jr

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    Where does it say trademark? Trademarks are for created name/logo/designs, not physical objects or process.
     
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  19. jmverdugo

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    right here

    After reading it again seems like it is used to say that it is a distinctive feature, me thinks!
     
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  20. Bobby Jr

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    Yes, it reads more like it's being used in that manner to me also rather than saying it is actually trademarked (which it couldn't be as I explained a few posts above).
     
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    for whatever reason, the cameras in MC have been always worse than in RG, and the ball more difficult to pick and follow

    I don't remember Madrid on that count
     
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  22. SuperDuy

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    Is it easier to see the ball in blue clay compared to the usual red?
     
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  23. monfed

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    We all have our tastes,I'm sure, but the consensus is that clay court tennis is boring. Grinding ain't as much fun as attacking tennis/shotmaking to watch for the majority. That's not to say that the odd high quality match on clay isn't fun, but in general it's not.
     
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  24. 1HBH Rocks

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    Patents were introduced with the goal of promoting research: by giving a short to mid term monopoly on a product to a company, it ensured a financial value in researching. Your efforts no longer could be used freely by anyone. However, it still is about using a market failure to solve an other one -- you're still preventing competition. If you know anything about economics, you understand what sort of crazy incentives it can results in...

    Besides, all he did was using cunningly something that already was used for other purposes... he's not the first guy to dye clay, nor the last one; but he's the first one to use it to make tennis courts on the ATP tour.
     
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  25. 1HBH Rocks

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    Technically, it should... do you see the ball well on blue courts usually? Why not now?
     
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  26. 1HBH Rocks

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    I enjoy watching long rallies, but seeing it running 30 shots and ending with a mistake, rarely with a winner isn't what would make it spectacular. It's a different kind of show where you can appreciate the hitting for a different reason, although clay does have the hang of putting the best and biggest hitter a notch in front of the rest.

    Up to my taste, the best matches are played in Cincinnati and at Flushing Meadows.
     
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    Hahaha well said
     
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