Was James Blake dropped by Nike?

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  1. フェデラー

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    He is wearing Fila, and I would much rather wear nike than fila, so was he dropped? COuld they have offered him more money?
     
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    I would rather wear Fila more than Nike. Fila is a company that has better quality products but doesnt have the advertising power. I have a marketing background and can tell you that Fila probally has better quality control and signing james to endorse their products is a big plus for that company--especially in the shoe department.
     
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    i would assume that fila was able to take him from nike by offering him a nice amount of cash but the big thing is that he is their cover boy athlete. (even having his picture on the company shop banner at the sony-ericsson open). i also prefer nike to fila (and everything else for that matter) but if i were to be offered the opportunity to be the face of an apparel company, id definitely take it.
     
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    I agree that Fila might make better overall quality of tennis clothing compared to Nike, but the Federer top line is higher quality than Fila.
     
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    i think he was probably dropped by Nike and at the best time possible. The guy has never won anything important, besides some small tournaments, and never will. Nike tried really hard to push his image but he did not have the wins to back it up. He should be thankful that someone is sponsoring him!. About the Fila stuff he has been wearing, I have to say that it is pretty bad and the shorts and shirts he is been using are way too big for anyone to make them good look. If anything I think he is hurting Fila's sales.
     
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    You are joking right? I mean you have to be just kidding around, right? Fila is more durable than a lot of Nike's best offerings. Fila also has some of the best rubber for their shoes in the industry. Here's some advice, go to your local sporting goods store and ask to compare a fila shoe and a nike shoe. Also look at the difference in apparrel. You will notice that Fila is a lot thicker in their shirts and shorts, that usually means that it is more durable and better quality.:)
     
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    i think a combo of nike dropping him and fila giving him a lot of $$$
     
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    not really man. thicker does not mean better quality and more durable. Take tournagrip for example, top notch og, but durability is terrible and its very thick.

    Take clothes, some people like to wear thin clothes when they play sports because it is more airy.
    So since wilson pro overgrip is so thin, it must be low quality right?
     
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    this is old news

    im pretty sure he's been wearing fila since AO 2009
     
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    WRONG! Compare Fila to Nike. Anything they have, heabands, shirts, shoes, tank tops, put them in a washer after use, and then you can tell the difference in texture after use abd wash.
     
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    My guess is that Blake was among the players that are technically sponsored by Nike, but aren't paid - they get stock clothing for free. Making the move to a smaller brand where he'd be treated as a bigger name was probably enticing. Lopez did the same thing awhile back.
     
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    Nike only signs winners. It has the biggest names in sport
    Tiger Woods,Roger Federer, Christino Ronaldo, Rafael Nadal etc

    They have no use for a player like James Blake
    i have always liked Addidas best but i'm sure Nike is the biggest.
     
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    LOL Funniest Post Ive Heard In a Long Time. Nike has the most money for endorsements son. Thats why you dont see Gamma at the top of the tennis industry. Smaller companies that dont spend money on advertisments and endorsements, sometimes are the best ones in terms of quality and perfrormance. Nike doesnt have the best quality or the best performance, but they have the most money to sign guys like you mentioned. You see companies like Gamma and Technifibre fly under the radar because they dont spend their money on athletes to endorse them. However Gamma and Tehcnifibre probally make some of the best products the tennis indusrty has ever seen. Look at those guys and say that they make the company--the company makes them.
     
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    Here is Fila's Clothing line.
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/catpage-MAFILA.html

    To me this is arguably the greatest tennis apparel line EVER produced. Just Look at their polos and their shorts. I havent seen a clothing line with that kind of quality and that nice of a design in all of my years. Im sure everyone will be flocking to look at Fila now that they have one of the best apparel lines ever produced.
     
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    its like MIZUNO golf clubs. tiger woods when he was a junior, and through out college, used them, then he got big and nike signed him.
     
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    its not that great. would much rather wear nike.
     
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    Ask Tursunov, Santoro, Blake, and Cilic if they think its not that great.
     
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    I much prefer the designs of Fila over nike.
     
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    Santoro? He uses Lacoste. You can add Seppi to that list.
     
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    I work for Nike Golf..thanks for the laugh Conquistador seeing as how you have zero knowledge of Nike and the innovation they have brought to the sports world through innovation by athletes for athletes
     
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    Joke, Bigger Joke, Huge Joke, and no one gives a damn about cilic. Or any of these guys.
     
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    Yeah, Fila is not bad, but not better than Nike. I feel that Nike is a lot better quality and better fitting than Fila. I mean, look at the shoe quality, Nike is far superior to Fila (even designs are better than Fila).
     
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    First of all...we're talking about APPAREL quality, not player's <and BTW talking about Cilic, take a really GOOD look at yesterday's match vs. Haas, THEN talk...>

    And...my younger bro has been 10 straight years sales rep for the swoosh brand..i've had the possibility to see/test almost everything they made, also those articles that never hit the shelves <and, believe me, for good reasons..>. As i usually say, cent by cent and performance-wise, Nike s***s...but i do sell it because customers buy it. BUT..compare the top lines from, say, Fila, Tacchini, Lacoste, Mizuno, Lotto, Australian, Yonex, Li-Ning (just to name a few...)with it and you understand what i mean.

    It's not the name of the athlete that makes the quality (that's a matter of investments..crudely, big names through big money...i'd probably sell myself for a lot of $$$)

    Just my 2 cents....

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    Fila has far better quality than nike does.

    Nike is so big and rich they dont care about the quality, they only care about the money.

    Blakes shirts are very nice btw and the new fila alfa 2's are super nice and way cooler than the new vapour and ballistics.

    The shoes in my avatar explain.
     
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    You couldnt have said it any better. Also, FILAS products are made of 100 percent polyester. Fila is all that and more. I look for FILA to become a GIANT eventually in the tennis industry. They have the best apparel out of any company today. That is fact.
     
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    no its not its an opinion lol. nice try. ill always wear nike because it looks the best, thats my opinion.
     
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    But aren't they paid to say that Fila is great?

    So what if they're made of 100% polyester? It's not like that's their flagship product. Nike and other brands use sweat-wicking material and polyester to make a shirt that most would agree is better than Fila's pure polyester. And Fila isn't going big anytime soon. They're big in South Korea, but the US and Europe isn't embracing Fila's boring designs or their refusal to use the sweat-wicking fabric.
     
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    WRONG AGAIN...Fila has built a reputation of being a clean, classy athletic brand with their 3 flagship colors. Nike is more flamboyant using an array of tropical colors for their seasonal wear. Fila has a better reputation because they are consistent and classical. People know what they get with FILA.
     
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    And that's why Fila's such a weak brand here in the US. They don't appeal to youth. When older guys (since their stuff if more classical, I assume their figures come from the older gents) eventually leave the market due to age, Fila will lose its most precious source of American dollars and will be clinging to dear life to their asian markets. Besides, no one associates FILA as being an athlete's brand, they think it's a brand that country clubbers wear because it's so steeped in tradition that isn't useful to the modern athlete. Besides, what does Nike's choice of color in their products have to do with their quality?
     
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    Wrong! I did not compare color to quality. FILA is promoted at youth, but people are ignorant and flock to what Federer and Nadal are wearing. Thats just shows their stupidity. One guy at my courts wears the Nike Ballestics just because of Nadal. Why copy??? You should know what is the best and what is the rest. Fila's line offers a lot to every age group, you certainly dont see any 70 year old player wearing ballestics. You see most consumers are ignorant and one sided, they look at their heroes wearing apparel and think that it will help their game or something.
     
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    I usually don't see a 70-year old on court period. And maybe that guy wearing BC's on court wear them because he likes the shoe. Besides, consumers aren't that stupid. Why do you believe that Nike sells because they have the top names and not because they make stuff that PEOPLE WANT? Or are you too high and mighty to associate with the common man in your Fila clothing?

    Also, you did compare color to quality. Your post:

    You didn't state how Fila's stuff is better than Nike's, you just said that their designs are more classical and therefore is higher quality.
     
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    100 percent polyester is no joke!
     
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    Cool, full polyester. But the people want SWEAT-WICKING MATERIAL. They want Climacool, Dri-fit, etc. and that pushes them away from Fila.
     
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    Wut, I much prefer adidas stuff to that.

    Some of their stuff last year was pretty good looking though.
     
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    People also want their shirts to last over a month. Fila's quality is just that--you get a high performance product that lasts a long time.
     
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    It was good looking, their 09 line is impressive as well. Fila will continue to grow, 100 percent polyester is a major selling point.
     
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    What the hell do you do to your shirts that make them tear? My shirts last for years.
     
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    Nike, Fila, Adidas, Under Armor, Lotto, Diadora, Sergio Tachini. They all make decent quality clothing and having worn all these brands I wouldn't say one was significantly better than another. Nike has had some innovative clothing styles (remember the Cool Motion line) and continues to be fairly innovative. Fila makes good clothing as well although they are one of many decent quality clothing makers with similar prices to any of the other brands.
    Fila product design and marketing is radically different than it was in the Borg era. I remember 30 years ago a Fila cotton tennis shirt cost $60-$70 and they were very hard to find, typcially sold only at Fila boutique shops. At those prices the general tennis playing public could not afford to buy very many of those shirts.
    Shoes are a whole different area. I find Nike shoes are the most comfortable of any tennis shoe I have worn but they wear out faster than any other brand and compartively they tend to be the expensive. Fila shoes are OK but I think there are 2 or 3 shoes brands that are better in terms of style, construction, and price. I would take Adidas, Asics, or Diadora shoes over Fila shoes.
     
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    It's kind of strange to see people wax poetic about "quality" for a product that by and large doesn't break, fail or otherwise disappoint, and which is perfectly reproduced item-to-item in the manufacturing plant. It's a TEE SHIRT, for heaven's sake, and polyester is pretty much polyester. All one can say here is that different manufacturer's lines may fit differently. And always remember that Italians appreciate STYLE above all, which means their shoes may be unusable (I've had Lotto and Fila tennis shoes that were even unsuited for causal wear, much less playing a game in.)
    As for Blake, companies do post-market research to find out what influenced a customer's purchase decision, and Nike may have discovered that Blake wasn't influencing too many purchasers.
     
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    Everyone should include quality first. Quality over quantity. Shirts do break down--especially after they are washed and dryed. I mean polyester is something that is intriguing--especially apparrel aficionados. I would rather pay 40 for a good fila shirt than 2 20 dollar nike shirts. You have to respect what companies do to enhance their products durability and comfort levels. Tehcnology is also a tool used to boost shirt sales, lets not forget these companies do research and development.
     
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    If you look at the price of Fila compared with Nike or Adidas you will realise that getting fila is a much more cost effective idea.

    Also Fila have better quality control than nike. With nike your paying for the brand and not the quality, while fila is both.
     
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    You know your stuff.
     
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    are you kidding me. i have had a nike shirt for over 2 years and its incredible. best shirt i ever bought. and fila needs a new designer, its so boring
     
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    yes i think so
     
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    Nike is an amazing company. The stuff they give fed, rafa and sharapova is top notch. Fila has the cool borg heritage and makes nice stuff too. My guess is james just went for the money. He was wearing the nike rafa line anyway along with delpo and a ton of young guys. His fila shirts are baggy and wierd looking though. I hope he gets some better fits and makes a run at the uso.
     
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    Santoro a joke? what are you smoking?

    And btw, Santoro wears Lacoste...much better than Nike in my opinion..
     
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    Having worked in tennis retail for awhile, I have exposure to a lot of the lines being produced. I have to agree that Fila does produce superior craftsmanship in comparison to anything out there. Their clothing is about the details. You have to be up close to see the simple elegance in which they craft their pieces.

    Nike has great fit and their details are good, but Fila is a little bit better. The problem is when looking at the stuff from a distance, it doesn't carry the same graphic weight as the competitors. You have to have your nose up to a Fila piece to say "wow" whereas Nike translates into photos worldwide.

    As per the shoes, it has been known industry wide that Fila uses really good rubber. But I haven't heard increasing remarks about the performance of their shoes. Still untested.
     
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    this post is the truth
     
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    That are, in most cases, 100% polyester.... :p or poly/spandex (that is a PU monofilament normally used in swimsuits)
     
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    Everyone thought I was the idiot. You obviously showed the craftsmanship of FILA. Keep in mind that FILA does extensive research on the fabric that they use. Fila produces top notch stuff--and spends less time on their advertising budget. Fila is a company that their product speaks for itself.
     
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