Was Mandlikova basically a lesser Navratilova, but with Evert's basline craft?

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  1. kiki

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    Hingis was new Evert but she was not as patient and went for the winner earlier
    She was also a better volleyer and the last true net woman along Venus Williams
    Both Hingis and Evert had perfectly tamed two handed backhands, among the very best of all time
     
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    I think you need to give Tracy Austin more credit she was right up there with Chris and Martina in the lae 1970s and early 1980s. Tracy had the mental toughness that Pam Shriver and the rest of the WTA lacked. Tracy was so mentally strong she just a tiny girl but she could hit the ball a ton. Tracy was so strong she had a 9-8 winning head to head against Chris Evert. Tracy also proved she was NO FLUKE her 1979 US OPEN victory. In 1981 Tracy did it again defeating Martina Navratilova 7-6 in the third to win her second US OPEN. It is such a shame that injuries did Tracy in. Tracy says when she was young Billie Jean King told her to do stretches and warm up her body prior to matches but she didn't listen. I think when Tracy was a teenager she thought she was invincible and on the tennis court she was.
     
  3. NadalAgassi

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    Wouldnt someone who was invincible win more than 2 slams, LOL! Yes of course Tracy was up with Chris and Martina for a period. However she still never ended a year ranked #1, and never reached a major final outside of hard courts or the U.S Open. The Martina of 80-81 was also nothing like the future beast Martina. As for Chris, Tracy is a bad matchup for her, so looks better in the matchup than she really is, similar to Sanchez Vicario when playing Graf, Hingis when playing Seles, and numerous other cases.
     
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    She also won the WTA Champìonships as well as the Avon Finals, both huge events back then.
     
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    Hana at legends US Open 2011

    I saw Hana team up with Nasty vs Vilas and a lesser know past legend whose name I cant recall...Hana would nail every ball so close to the line with super ease and precision it was scary, she was amazing even at her elder stages...a truly gifted player who just was not mature enough to harness it and dominate along with martina and chrissie...but she got her slice of the pie and is a legend.
     
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    Hingis was such a joy to watch.and she came to the net more in a match than any current player over a year.

    Hana, you just cannot root against her if you love tennis.Even if she only won 4 or 5 biggies, she had more talent in her nails than 99% of the pros in their whole bodies.
     
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    I think so. She was just super gifted.
     
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    How in hell does anyone get their strokes grooved playing Hana? You have no idea what shot she will hit or what to cover, and 'percentage tennis' is an absolute mockery in a Mandlikova match. There is no pattern and the options are unlimited. She personifies chaos theory. No one gets sleep or relaxes when they see Mandlikova as their next match.
     
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    This is the type of post I wish I could write. :):shock:
     
  10. kiki

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    She was the women' s Nastase
    And like Ilie, never fulfilled promises
    You just saw, felt and tasted how easy tennis wad
    for her,Sometimes she made me desperated but there is no other player I ever wanted to watch
    One decent good match of hers was worthy 50 matches from almost anyone else
    One great Hana match was a true privilege
    One grand one was a state of art, so scarce yet so valuous
     
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    Hana's blessing and her curse. She operated well in chaos which might explain why she played so consistently well at Flushing Meadow through most of her career.

    All the players said what you just said - they couldn't get a rhythm against her. Bettina Bunge once said that if Hana knew what she was going to do, perhaps she could figure it out. Hana's imagination and gambit approaches freaked most out including Martina who would literally get MAD if Hana drop shotted off her second serve or rushed forward and half volleyed her first serve. This is why Chris was the perfect answer to Hana. She knew to mentally stay on her side of the net and play steady. If Hana hit winners, good for her. But the errors will come which Chris gobbled up.
     
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    You have to wonder if this is a lesson Evert learned playing Evonne for so many years. Chris once said her aptitude for anticipating, did her no good against Evonne because even Evonne could not anticipate Evonne!
     
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    That was probably true. Even though its well past her prime, I hope you've seen Evonne's 1982 Palm Beach loss to Chris. It's a masterpiece watching Evonne work her magic on har -tru.
     
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    I've watched it many times - it really is something wonderful to watch - from both women.
     
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    Those who don' t have her in the top 5 ever for peak play know little tennis
     
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    Hana was both a gold mine and a hell´s condemn if you were a pro gambler.If you were lucky, she could make you earn millions...but, most often, she´d carry you straight to ruine.

    Her game C would be trashed by any top 30 woman
    Her game B would keep her in the top 5-6 but far from a slam title contention, considering that there were ladies by the name of Martina Navratilova,Chris Evert and the young Stefi Graf.
    Her game A was just unplayable

    Someone once told me that, in the late wood-early graphite era of the middle 80´s, if any woman could take a set off a pro male, it wouldn´t be Martina, it would be Hana.
     
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    If pro gambling had been so worldwide extended as it is today, Hana would have been a Saint and a Villain at once
     

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