Was Roddick lucky to win 03 USO?

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  1. dominikk1985

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    He was certainly unlucky to face roger in so many wimbledon finals but he also could have easily ended up with 0 slams.

    He beat ferrero easily in that final however I think he was a little lucky that ferrero upset agassi that year. Agassi beat roddick a lot. I don't count the 2 2000 matches but even in 02-04 roddick won only 1 out of 4 matches and that was on grass.

    would roddick have beaten agassi in that final?
     
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    Roddick was in his best hardcourt form then, I think he could have done it. Would have been a tighter match though. Would have been a shame if he never won a slam, he definately deserved atleast the one that he got.
     
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  3. NadalAgassi

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    He was pretty lucky when you think of it:

    1. Nalbandian choking in the semis from a clear winning position.
    2. Federer being taken out for him by Nalbandian, despite that he had a win over Federer that summer, I highly doubt he would have beaten him (especialy when in the semis when he would have played Federer he was way off his best).
    3. Ferrero taking out Agassi, Agassi also would have been very tough for Roddick to beat.

    That said he did dominate that summer and won both Canada and Cincinnati so he was the fitting winner, and I was glad he won it.
     
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    Unreal to think that this fall will mark the 10 year anniversary of the last time an American man won a singles major.
     
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  5. Anaconda

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    Was Federer lucky Nadal didn't make the final of all those slam finals?

    Was Nadal lucky Djokovic didn't peak in 2008 onwards?

    Was Murray lucky the wind saves his ass in the US Open final?

    Was Djokovic lucky at AO 2008 playng Federer in mono-mode

    Was Gaudio lucky? Yes, we all know what happened that day!



    I think Roddick deserved some luck in his career. Wimbledon 2004 would have more than likely been his if it wasn't for the continuous rain interruptions. Roddick could have ended up with 0 slams but he could have ended up with 4-6 if he didn't play so defensive.



    Nalbandian choking? since when was 140mph out wide considered a choke? I love it. When Nadal or Djokovic make spectacular comebacks playing average it's seen as monumental. Whenever Roddick does it it's always the opponent choking.





    I'm going to break down Wimbledon 2012.



    Was Rosol lucky to play Nadal and make the 3rd round (a guy who gives big hitters chances in matches). I guarantee you Rosol wouldn't even be heard of right now if that match wasn't played.


    Was Djokovic unlucky that Bennateau 'choked' against Federer? Surely Djokovic could beat Bennateau right?


    Was Federer lucky they closed the roof? We all saw what was going on in the first set.


    Was Murray lucky he didn't play Djokovic in the semi finals instead of avoiding him? Djokovic could beat Murray, but Murray was able to make the final because he avoided Djokovic.





    I've basically p!ssed all over this thread.
     
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    I agree with you on that Nalbandian vs Roddick match. It's not Roddick's fault that Nalbandian stopped playing after that fan called the line right before RODDICK, NOT Nalbandian, was about to hit a shot. Roddick hit the ball back, Nalbandian stopped playing. That was his fault. I also like how people never bring up the MP Nalbandian had, which Roddick erased in a heartbeat with a massive serve.

    The call on Nalbandians backhand on BP in the 5 set was a bad call, but I don't understand why people think Nalbandian was entitled to the win even if it was called in. Roddick had another break point coming up after that point. So, Roddick was not lucky. He earned that tournament.
     
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  7. Phoenix1983

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    A rare decent post from you.
     
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  8. Anaconda

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    It wasn't a decent post, far from it. It's funny when someone with the Name Nadal and Agassi in their username starts calling other players lucky. His posts must be pretty damn stupid if this is the best he could come up with; A few unproven hypothesis that a 5 year old could make up.
     
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    agassi-roddick was 1 all in 2003-04, one match at queens in 2003 that roddick won and one match at cincy in 2004 that agassi won ... Both went to a 3rd set breaker ....
     
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    I really doubt that ..too much is made of the rain interruption in the 3rd set ... roddick was only a break up in the 3rd ... there were many breaks in that match; by then federer had broken roddick 3 times , roddick had broken federer 4 times ...

    now wimbledon 2009 was the one where he deserved to win more ... given federer didn't break him until the very end ...

    not with federer in his way ... he should've won a wimby though ....
     
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    If you look at the talent graphs of who was playing, then yes: "weak era lucky".
     
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  12. slowfox

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    No, he wasn't lucky.
     
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  13. obsessedtennisfandisorder

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    he was very lucky...nalby took out scud, federer and the cool morrocan dude.

    nalby injured his wirst in the third set breaker...that's why he didn't play the fall tournys.

    ferrero took out hewitt and agassi and was completely exhausted for final.

    no safin (injured) no haas (injured) and sampras retires when he thrashed roddick the year before in straights.


    even back then if you watch closely he is serving huge jnd his forehand is big..but beyond that there's nothing...then the players he faced..the likes of concrete feet schalken and return maestro(not) lubijicic would make him look good.


    Overall though ARod was a bit unlucky
    over the course of his career..so noones gives him a hard time.
    and i agree with this...if kafelnikovs winning two slams..the least arod deserves is a slam.
     
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