Wawrinka's Racquet Setup?

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  1. Cup8489

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    Curious as to what frame he plays with, and what his personal setup (weight, sw, balance etc) is..

    I did a search but couldn't find much of anything.. I assume because he's not one of the more popular players on the boards.
     
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  2. BobFL

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    350grams unstrung, 310mm balance, grip size 3 with TK57 pallets, standard length and I don't have to tell you about pro stock frames :)
     
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    Well I am curious.. since he's using a 16x19 with the CAP grommets, do you know what pro stock frame he's using? I left that question open mainly because I didn't want to assume he used the MGPP or the YTPP, was hopin someone would shed light on which pro stock frame he uses.
     
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    he is using the prestige mp with an enormous amount of lead :)

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    Stan uses the Head TGK 238.3 (Prestige Pro with softer RA) customized.
     
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  6. dr325i

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    NO for the first part, so-so for the second...
     
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  7. Cup8489

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    any ideas on the strung SW? He looks like he hits a pretty heavy ball.. the impression I get with the way he swings and what the ball does is that the sw is north of 360.. but idk. Depending on if that hairpin is really light (like most pro stock frames are), that's either quite a bit of lead, or a LOT of lead..
     
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    I thought the .3's were 18X20 that were softer. If he is using a 16X19 then wouldn't he be using the TGK 238.5? Correct me if I am wrong, I have never personally seen any TGK with the .3 (or .6 now) in person, but have hit with the .4 and .5 frames.
     
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  9. movdqa

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    .1, .2 are Microgels. I don't recall seeing .3s before but I assume that they must exist.
     
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    238.1 = MG Prestige MP
    238.2 = MG Prestige Pro
    238.3 = MG Prestige Pro (Soft)
    238.4 = YT Prestige MP
    238.5 = YT Prestige Pro

    I have not seen any .6
     
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    He uses the pro, right? Why does the pj say MP on it? I haven't seen the YTPP up close to see all of the writing on it, but I still find it odd...
     
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    no he uses the mp with just a p-1 leather grip on it
     
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    No he does not. He uses the 238.3 = Pro with the soft layup.
    Count the strings...
     
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    has nothing to do with him? My guess is that the person taking the picture of him has something to do with him...
     
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    Bert, why do you post wrong information in this thread? Are you fishing?
     
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  18. movdqa

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    Any racquet can be painted to look like another, as long as the sizes don't differ too much.
     
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    That's the older Prestige Pro (from the late 80's) that his coach Peter uses...
     
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    That does not stop them either.
     
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    Ah, okay... that was my guess but I hoped so bad that it would be the new line...
     
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    Nevermind...
     
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    Does anyone know where one might find one of the rackets he is playing with? I am not looking for a racket he played with, just the same TGK setup he is using. willing to pay up what is necessary
     
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    Try string forums, they have a lot of dealing with Pro Stocks and the such. Prices can run a bit higher then what you might expect though.

    -Fuji
     
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    Really? Do you happen to know any names of such forums where i could give it a try ?
     
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  26. Fuji

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    Yup! It's actually called string forum or something like that. I have the link to it, I'll message you through your profile! :)

    -Fuji

    EDIT: I can't message you through your profile. Send me one through my profile! :)
     
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    Type "string forums" in google and click the for sale link. Then get out your PayPal account.
     
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    > That does not stop them either.

    It sure messes up decal placement.
     
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    Thanks guys for your help. I appreciate it. Now, since you are all so knowledgeable, i want a 16x19 pattern with a 98 or smaller headsize.
    That is the TGK 238.5 right?
    I am afraid I am not so informed about HEAD pro sticks. I used to play with wilson h22 or h something. My friend had a sponsorship and gave me one, but I do not have it anymore. It was a 18x20 pattern and spin was extremely hard for me to generate. I tried the YTPP and fell in love with the pattern, head size, weight and handle. Everything but the com-positioning of the racket. Thats why i want the TGK version of it. The racket composition of the pro stocks cnt be even measured with the stock frames.
     
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  30. dr325i

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    Are you talking H22 vs KBlade or TGK vs. Retail Head?
     
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    I am talking about all of the brands. The h22 that my friend gave me was in the PJ of the kblade 98. It had similar specs, but played and felt a lot more solid like the 93 tour. It was darn heavy (around 355 grams) and was compositioned of mostly graphite. I know coz i asked my friend and because i used to have an old wilson 6.0 95 that was 95% graphite (at least it said so in the description) and it felt the same solid way (and looked the same after i broke them and looked inside :oops: )

    Its really weird. The h22 looked like the kblade 98, but played quite a bit different. it would sort of just plow through the ball (id say from the weight), and as i said, the feel it gave was completely different. just a lot more solid and it didnt have that "hollow" sound when you would bang it on something.

    I'm sorry if i expressed myself poorly. english isnt exactly my first (or second) language.
     
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  32. dr325i

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    What is your first language?

    Anyway, the H22 vs the retail racket is a totally different mold, etc...
    The TGK is exactly the same mold, possibly same materials as retail, just different composition of those. I do agree that the Pro stock feels different from the retail stick, however, the H22 vs. KBlade is a HUGE difference and obviously totally different rackets
     
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    Really? So the TGK and the retail version are actually very similar? hmm... So then, you are saying there is not much difference between any of the Head retail and pro sticks? I'm guessing you speak out of experience, so I'd like to ask you for your opinion whats the main difference?
    I have a couple of friends that are sponsored by head. One is sponsored by the Extreme version, and it looks actually nothing like the retail version, yet here ive seen on forums that they have the pro version of the extreme and it looks the same, except it has TGK etc written on the throat. However, the other two friends have the prestige 18x20 TGK models sponsorship, and I had the opportunity to try the 98 headsize 18x20 version (i cnt say which TGK model it was, but if its important i can ask my friends) and the really didnt feel like the retail version of the prestige MG.

    My first language is Croatian. I see you are from Czech republic, you play ITF circuit at all, for a league, or a club team?
     
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    Nisam Ceh, iz Beograda sam :)

    Anyway, the Pro stock of Extreme and the Retail Extreme are the same identical mold. HOWEVER, there are a lot of Paint Jobs out there where older version racket is painted with new colors and that is where difference comes.

    From my experience, there IS difference between the Head retail and pro stock, and not only the weight and balance. However, Head currently has three kinds of Pro Stock rackets -- the old frames painted in current colors = PT57x, PT10, PT161... Those certainly feel different than the retails. However, the PT57A, for example, is the same mold (minor differences) as the Youtek Prestige MP. Another example would be Djokovic frame that is the same mold as the Microgel Radical MP, but totally different material composition. Andy Murray for example uses the PT57A but with a unique 16x19 string pattern. The PT frames are still hand made in Austria.
    The other kind are the TGK frames. Those are made in China, and use the same exact mold as the retail frames. In fact, if you look under the pallets of the retail frames, same TGK code is printed there. After the production, they are sent to either customizer directly or to Head Austria for final touches and customization. On this forum, we all speculate that TGK frames use identical materials (Microgel, D3O...) as the retail frames, or "pure" graphite giving them different feel and sound. This was never proven and continues to be the topic of discussion.
    In my opinion the materials are different, or at least the composition of the materials is not the same.
    The advantage of the Pro Stock (TGK) frames is the easiness of customization -- they are 20-25g lighter than the Retail frames, allowing the customizer to place silicone and lead in the frame to alter the balance and playability...
     
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    Hah, pa nisam uopce vidio cijelu ekipu na profile picture hehe.
    Well, thank you a lot for sharing this. It certainly made quite a few things more clear.
    Now I won't feel as bad for not having a sponsorship yet with a real pro stock rackets heheh. Guess i just have to customize my prestiges the right way and it will be close enough to what i was looking for.

    Thank you again!
     
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    > On this forum, we all speculate that TGK frames use identical
    > materials (Microgel, D3O...) as the retail frames, or "pure" graphite
    > giving them different feel and sound. This was never proven and
    > continues to be the topic of discussion.

    I had planned to buy a YT Radical MP to see if it's the same as the 260.2 (outside of the string pattern) but the third came along so I shelved that plan but I might revive it to see if I can feel a difference.

    It would also be interesting to compare a YT IG Radical MP when they come out.
     
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    If it is 260.2 it is 260.2 regardless of the PJ and should feel the same. Comparing the 238.1 and 238.4 for example felt different to me, just like the retail MG and YT Prestige MP felt different. However the retail YT and 238.4 also felt very different. Could be different uncustomized balance and weight between the two caused these differences after the silicone and lead weere used to match them...
     
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