WB Comments on Ltr to US Tennis Industry-PART I

Discussion in 'Junior League & Tournament Talk' started by HIGH-TECH TENNIS, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. t135

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    You're one of those people who will argue with a sign post. About anything. Someone starts an interesting discussion about Wayne Bryan's thoughts and it immediately becomes about you and your daughter. You are childish like kids on a playground claiming "my dad can beat up your dad".

    I'll say anything I want on here buddy, if you don't like it don't read it. Oh, and my daughter can beat your daughter any day of the week.
     
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  3. Tennishacker

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    TCF, time to take another break from this board.
     
  4. coaching32yrs

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    No TCF. Lebron one of greatest athletes ever any sport. Saw him live. TV does not do him justice. If he wanted to play tennis no doubt he would be a great player. We delude ourselves becuase we need to believe in the greatness our kids. It hurts to think they have gotten to the top of the junior rankings by default, i.e. the better athletes bypassing tennis.
     
  5. Soianka

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    nevermind...........
     
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  6. Soianka

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    Look we all know you are never going to meet anyone here or let your daughter play anyone here.

    And we all know why.

    No need to insult yet another tennis kid to try to cover your tracks.
     
  7. Number1Coach

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    He was and under achiever in his sporting years and if he was half the coach I am and could get close to producing what I have it would be up on youtube in a second .

    You can bet he is a teaching pro "dime a dozen" and when someone has a better prodigy he explodes and lashes out , out in CA Mr.B has delt with his type all the time we know his language , thats why i have posted over time that he is parks and rec tennis coach and if tenniscp is correct then will have his name up soon and you will see I have been correct the whole time.

    Will let you know who he is soon and someone will have video of his kid soon on here and trust me she wont be that special and he will pipe down.
     
  8. Number1Coach

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    Brett or Erik hhmmm who could you be ?
     
  9. Stokke

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    No, getting owned by a 8 year old girl would not be a nice day for him but he does not expect every single match to be "nice". I am sure that he would appreciate your girlĀ“s amazing talent (should it turn out to be as you describe it).

    Although I doubt your conclusion, I appreciate the feedback.

    I was not wondering if he could beat those 12s - you are the one who postulated that your kid can beat them, remember.?

    Yes, he was using green balls a year ago (still uses them regularly since all u12 tournaments uses them here) so we are, to use your metaphor, still walking - but we also like to sprint occasionally.

    You do not care what we believe - and then you assure us that it is a fact that your girl is a tennis freak.. Got it.
     
  10. Number1Coach

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    Stokke he calls parents dilusional! Then says he has and 8 yr old that can beat the no.1 12 yr old in the nation !!

    Stokke HELLO !! he has a 8 yr old that can beat the no.1 12 yr old in the nation ??

    Stokke Hello !! who is delusional ? 8 yrs old over no1 12 yr old in Nation ?

    are you hearing me Stokke now get out the strait jacket and I will tackle him you put it on him cause earlier he was talking about Haleys coment dropping magic dust on his daughter in the perfect storm !!! ready set lets get him.
     
  11. Stokke

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    Lol.

    No thanks - I have no idea if what TCF says about his daughter is true or not. I just saw this as an opportunity to get my son a practise match while we are in Florida.

    I have no problems with ignoring his condescending tone while I contemplate his advice - some of which I find useful.
     
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  13. coaching32yrs

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    Maybe he has this 8 yr old superstar maybe he doesn't. He did say I believe that she starting playing at 18 months. Very unusual. Never seen anything like that. Most kids don't have the attention span to really play in match setting until 8 or 9. Why is this kid important. Take everything you read here with a grain of salt. TCF is an interesting contributor. Let's leave it at that.
     
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  17. jigglypuff

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    I hope you know that a lot of these girls (and boys) are not what they seem. Age fabrication has been prevalent in every facet of sports in the past few decades. It's nearly impossible for US born athletes to fudge their birthdates at a level where it matters but relatively easy, and common, in other countries.
     
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    Hey Vain, just read in Tennis magazine that Jack Sock has hired former Swedish player Joakim Nystrom as his coach, thus snubbing all the "incredible" American coaches during these tough times.

    Please write your usual candid open letter to him and publicize it wildly. We will be waiting to see if you have the guts to do it. Now, if Jack Sock comes back and says you don't have a clue about tennis, don't blame us for it.
     
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    Not sure but what Nationality is Alacone or Gilbert between Sampras and Agassi they seem like pretty solid coaches, also this guy Lansthorp I know he has been here in the USA for most of his life and considers himself American I believe and He has had some students with good results yah ?
     
  22. jigglypuff

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    Yeah, but who wants to work with an arrogant, stuck up, old man. It is counter productive to say the least.
     
  23. Number1Coach

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    I get you , I have spent some time with him and his attitude differs depending the parent. But he is pretty salty.
     
  24. jigglypuff

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    Not talking about gymnastics specifically, but rather age fixing in soccer (Europe and South America), baseball (South America) and to an extent holding kids back 1 to 2 years deliberately for football (US). No one is thinking about the top 75, everyone is thinking about the road to the top and being the top of your age group is going to open up doors regardless of the sport.

    And fudging ages is not a huge effort, like you put it, in other countries.
     
  25. Tennishacker

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    How do you dismiss one of the greatest coaches so easily?
     
  26. Number1Coach

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    You have to understand who your talking to "TCF" as I pointed out on another thread TCF always seems to fudge the numbers has outtageous facts about a current player when he was 10 yrs old, he has never layed eyes on any of them but they were TOTTALLLY of the charts and to that I laugh .

    As a person who has developed a real top Jr . not a made up dillusion they all bleed the same,go potty the same ,smell after workouts, OH yah they eat food also.

    The difference is all in understanding "development" which TCF doesnt .
     
  27. jigglypuff

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    I'm not... early on it was always about the student. Now it is all about him.
     
  28. Tennishacker

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    Do you know him personally?
     
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  30. t135

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    Fair enough. Thanks and best of luck with your daughter.
     
  31. Stokke

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    My boy and I are both very much looking forward to experiencing tennis in Florida - he will, hopefully, be competing against some very good players his own age. It will surely, as you put it, be a reality check. He knows it and I know it - and we both intend to use the experience as a motivator to work harder.

    I do not care about who wins the match - we could agree upfront to proclaim your kid as the winner if you prefer that. I was impressed by your description of your girl - and thought that a practice match with her would be a good experience for my boy.

    You say that your girl would hate to play my boy. Fair enough - it was only a proposal and you are ofcourse entitled to decline it.

    My boy is not ready for practice matches?!

    I will have you know that he beat our national number 5 in the 12u - and he took a set from a player who had participated in the world cup in Croatia this summer.

    It is stuff like this that makes you come accross as condescending (are you even aware of that?).

    However - despite your less than endearing personality, I like you. Where do we sign up for private lessons? (No, I am not beeing sarcastic).
     
  32. jigglypuff

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    Would it make a difference to you?

    Oh, btw.. don't answer the question. :)
     
  33. NLBwell

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    As far as all these 8, 9, 10-year old kids, Jelena Jankovic didn't start playing tennis until she was 9 1/2. Whether TCF's evaluation of his daughter's present skills is correct I have no way of knowing, but he has often correctly stated that winning at a young age isn't a good barometer of how good the kids will be when they grow up.
     
  34. rgwarren

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    I seen Abby play last year at Eddie Herr international tournament. She was 10 yrs old and 10nth seed. Lost to the champion in Quarterfinals. That would put her at 10 yrs old in the top 8 in the world's 12. Today she is 11 and I think she will be #1 seed at Eddie Herr, at Nike International (she got a wild card), at Orange Bowl. Now if you think that some 10 yr old will beat her. I wold say NOOOO Way. She is from our region and I've seen her grow up. The only way she will get beat is if she is sick, or hurt...dont' listen to TCF he is full of it.
     
  35. Tennishacker

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    Your characterization of him is spot on, but I think he still has a lot to offer the budding pro.
     
  36. rgwarren

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    SKIP TCF, GET TOGETHER WITH NUMBER1COACH, HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING. GO WITH PROVEN WINNERS NOT SOME WANNABE'S,
     

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