we need sampras to come back on tour

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  1. Young Pete

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    anyone else agree...... :eek:
     
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  2. rhubarb

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    Nope.
     
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  3. pound cat

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  4. rhubarb

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    Why though? It would be embarrassing for him and for tennis...and boring ;)
     
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  5. pound cat

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    If he came back with hair like that no way he'd be boring.
     
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  6. Rabbit

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    I think Connors ought to come back.
     
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  7. RB

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    would love to see Connors really get in shape and make another run---it would be good for tennis---its obvious he still has the itch
     
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  8. arosen

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    Not unless Sampras gets Agassi's haircut
     
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  9. Peter Samprer

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    i guess pete's 14 grandslam and 6 straight yrs. as number 1 makes him boring. let's see if roger can be as boring as pete ;)
     
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  10. the man to beat

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    We mite well see that!! Go Roger
     
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  11. rhubarb

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    Roger could never be as boring as Pete if he tried.
    But he might eclipse his GS record (I doubt it though).
     
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  12. gts072

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    He can't come back. He's too old and out of shape plus he is a family man now.
     
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  13. Type40

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    I think Jack Kramer should make a come back, he'd kick ass. Still time for him to put another decade on the tour, he's only 80.
     
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  14. RickN

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    Johnny Mac should stage a return. He still has a top serve and is entertaining as hell.
     
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  15. ShooterMcMarco

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    yeah, john mac should quit his show and return to the tour ;)
     
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  16. finchy

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    i dont think he has a show anymore. lol. he got terrible ratings because it was a terrible show.
     
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  17. ShooterMcMarco

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    i remember watching his show once, and he had wildboy steve-o on there, and jmac was hitting him with forehand smashes. pretty funny, steve-o got hit in the balls pretty hard.
     
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  18. Tenny

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    Seles from early 90s.

    Sampras has done his due. He deserves some rest.

    Monica Seles of early 90s, She is the one I'd bring back to the scene (WTA) from the past on my time machine.
    Seles of early 90s vs. Sharapova match would be a fun.

    T.
     
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  19. BigboyDan

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    No. Pete was a great champ and won a lot, but he was worthless to pro tennis outside his play and hindered its continued growth as a spectator sport. Ask anyone IN the game.
     
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  20. RickN

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    Even if he doesn't return to the tour, he should still quit his show. :D
     
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  21. laurie

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    BigboyDan, which opinions have you canvassed IN the game to come up with this assessment? I'd be very interested to know. Or are you just trying to force YOUR opinion on others?
     
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  22. Peter Samprer

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    yeah, he can't be as boring as pete. pete made it boring 'coz nobody couldn't keep up with him. roger can beat pete's record, let's see how he handles injuries and how hungry he'll remain.
     
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  23. laurie

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    Peter Samprer, You're right. Pete Sampras didn't make it boring. The only ones who are boring are the ones who can't appreciate skill, talent and will to win when its staring them in the face.
     
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  24. rhubarb

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    Sorry, laurie, but the only ones who are boring are the ones who keep harping on about Sampras long after he has retired.
     
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  25. antontd

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    Only an idiot would call Pete boring. players like Coria are boring.
     
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  26. rhubarb

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    Each to their own. Some people find Coria a fascinating player. At least he can claim a Roland Garros final in his career, which is more than can be said for some players.
     
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  27. Peter Samprer

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    yeah, only final but no grandslam :roll:
     
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  28. antontd

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    Yes, he has a slam final. so what? he cares only to get the ball back. If you don't make winners you are boring. simple.
     
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  29. Max G.

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    Not true. Maybe for you. Not for everybody.

    Now, I like the aggressive players, the netrushers, the guys that make spectacular winners. But I also know some people that love the scrappy fighters, the ones that are willing to run down ball after ball after ball, that manage to get their racket on balls that should have been winners time and time again, who manage to find ways to win despite not having weapons. Those people absolutely love the Hewitts and the Corias, and don't consider them boring at all.
     
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  30. rhubarb

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    Not yet, no, but he's only 22.
     
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  31. rhubarb

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    That's your own preference. I find players that are very dominant on serve extremely boring, but I know some people actually like that.
     
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  32. antontd

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    Nothing looks better than 4 aces in a row.
     
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  33. Peter Samprer

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    22 and he already choked. sampras 19, federer 20? something, roddick, chang 17, didn't choke :lol:
     
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  34. Max G.

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    4 volley winners in a row.
     
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  35. Max G.

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    Or, depending on who you ask, four twenty-ball rallies in a row.
     
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  36. antontd

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    Max, I agree only with the first(May be because I'm a SVer). Anyway you are right, it depends. But the point was that Sampras was everythning, but not boring.
     
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  37. rhubarb

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    Again that's a personal preference. There are plenty of tennis fans who found him boring, and one of them was me. Great player, great skill, great achievements. But sorry, still boring.


    Oh yes, and not up to the mark on clay ;)
     
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  38. Peter Samprer

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    [​IMG]
     
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  39. rhubarb

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    So what? Lots of great players didn't win their first Grand Slam final. Agassi took four attempts, so did Lendl.

    Anyway, we digress.
     
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  40. Peter Samprer

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    so what? c'mon man, he was leading all the way... and then... [​IMG]

    ... and i don't consider him great...yet :wink:
     
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  41. rhubarb

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    Sure, I'm not arguing he didn't choke. And no I don't think he's a "great" player either, but if the "greater" players couldn't win their first GS finals, then that lets Coria off the hook a bit.

    Anyway, he's still got a better record on clay than Sampras ;)
     
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  42. antontd

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    I know only one who thinks that sapras is boring, oh and that includes you.
     
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  43. rhubarb

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    I've no idea who "sapras" is ;) If you meant Pete Sampras, then your circle of tennis friends must be pretty small, perhaps non-existent.

    Look, this is history. There are plenty of players out there to be excited about, and certainly no need to wish one of the yawn-inducers of the past be resurrected. Let's move on.
     
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  44. Peter Samprer

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    wtf? of course he wil have a better record. i don't know if you're a coria fan but did you know that he grew up playing on clay? that's shows you why he's better than sampras on clay. [​IMG]
     
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  45. antontd

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    So you hated how sampras made agassi "the second great". why don't you tell us who is not boring. federer and ...
     
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  46. rhubarb

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    There are plenty of players who have NOT grown up on clay and have a better record than Sampras on that surface.

    And no, for the record, I am not a Coria fan. It wasn't me that brought up Coria in the first place.
     
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  47. Peter Samprer

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    it was psychological for pete. i know he could've done better on clay like when he won on davis cup.

    i know that there are players that didn't grow up on clay and have better record than sampras. but on your comment "Anyway, he's still got a better record on clay than Sampras", you were comparing coria and sampras on clay. what's up with that? pete didn't grow up playing on grass but was great playing on it, can you compare that with coria?
     
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  48. rhubarb

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    anton brought up Coria as a supposedly "boring" player compared with Sampras, so I guess I just threw that in to show that Guille could be considered superior to Pete in one category. And of course, I like to bate the Sampras-lovers around here ;)

    Actually it was interesting to see that Coria got to the Rosmalen final this year on grass, but yes, he's not ever going to be the player that Sampras was on it. Very few are :)
     
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  49. pound cat

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    What you're talking about is a Sampras-like character...one who can hit aces abd win Slams. Pete has no interest in returning to tennis in any way, shape, or form. and we've got a Sampras-like player in the shape of Roger Federer who IMO is as boring as hell. What we need are characters. Look at the top 10...Roddick, Hewitt, Safin...so, they don't win every match or every tournament or every Slam. But they're all as entertaining as anything to fans, followers and media, and this is what keeps tennis alive. And they just happen to be in the masters' Cup too.
     
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  50. Kevin Patrick

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    rhubarb,
    you are obviously a big Federer fan(so am I) Why do you consider Sampras boring & not Federer? They both have similar all court games & personalities, is it just because of Sampras' dominating serve?

    As far all the original topic, I think Sampras is missed, not necessarily for his game, but that he maintained such a high standard, that there is a void without him, like when MJ retired, regardless of how you felt about him you knew he was a rare champion. The same will happen when Agassi retires. There are less all-time great players playing now than ever before, many talents of the late 90s didn't really fulfill their Sampras & Agassi-like potential(in terms of winning multiple slams). Federer is the only truly great player out there. Yes the younger players may make their mark, but I have a feeling that there will be a lot of 1 or 2 slam wonders, no consistent champions. I don't think Hewitt or Safin will add considerably to their trophy cabinet either.

    And rhubard, Sampras had 3 claycourt titles(3 more than Becker). I doubt Coria will ever win 1 grasscourt title.
     
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