Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Hankenstein, Aug 24, 2012.
2 sticks in 4 3/8 please!
Chris or any other guru at TW: Any possibility of getting the PT630 CAP back again? As you see and know, there is an extreme interest in this frame
I'd buy 4 in L3
Please bring it back! (2 in L2)
I would go for at least 2 in L3.
What about the PT630 CAP but with 16x19 pattern ? ...
I would probably buy 3 in 3/8s to try them out
I second that.... the name only is not enough, it has to be the real stuff
If it is the real stuff, I'll buy 6 in 3/8.
I'm reviving this thread....
I'd get 2 with CAP... L2
why is everybody day-dreaming like this?
If they would re-issue the PT630, it will be just the current stock Prestige MP with a blue pain job, would that make you buy a bunch of those? They will not even care about the mold, not to mention the absence of Twaron. Look at the Agassi re-issue made in China, not even the same mold. What is the point here? Move on, people.
4 in 4-1/2.
Isn't this an issue better dealt with by the manufacturer, Head? Just don't see what power TW has in this matter.
TW has had a number of products produced in special runs for them. I'm guessing a run of 630's would be similar to the exclusive run they had for the Wilson PS 85.
Does anyone actually know how exactly this would have to work? I mean, is there a certain quota needed for a go? Or what are the mechanics behind any kind of decision with regard to a reissue?
i heard the 6.0 85 didnt play the same on this last release... im sure the 630 wont be as good as the original.
PT630 is even harder to do then classic 85 with only braided grafit and cevlar you need rare and expensive twaron
Would defs get at least 2 maybe 3 especially if capped.
Is it/would it just be a simple case of adding some electric blue paint to the current 25th Anniversary Prestige? Twaron or no Twaron, I'm sure there will be enough people to buy it.
If tecnifibre is able to produce something close with the TF315...
I'll take 4 in grip size 3
I think it is better since the head is bigger, it feels almost the exact same and you can customize the weight and pick 16 or 18 mains
All that being said a classic PT630 re release would be awesome as well.
I agree, the only weakness being the ugly paintjob
I love the PJ. Red, white and black are great colors for a stick.
Sure matter of taste.
The sparkling blue of the PT630 is more my cup of tea.
I like that as well. Tec PJs have always been some of my favorites.
I also really loved the Dunlop 4d200 PJ and the Black Drive.
they already reissued it, it is called the Prestige limited edition 25 years
What? Not really
As someone in the know explained, modern Prestige MP mold is slightly different. Not to mention layup and material mix
Or that's how you compare them from your experience?
I have a PT630, a PT57A and an IG Prestige MP 25th. The 25th anniversary feels nothing like the 630. A Technifibire T-Fight 315 is the closest thing on the market now.
Really? I thought the 25th anni Prestige MP was just a repaint of the IG MP?
Are you serious? I always learned it is just a IG Prestige MP into a black PJ.
Wait a minute... So maybe this is how TW did it!
Think about it: Chris himself was the one to bring up this issue, but clearly Head would mass produce 25th Anniversary "limited" edition instead. And suddenly, out of the blue, Tecnifibre resurrects one of their old frames which is coincidentally the closest thing to PT630. For US market only. Having no particular place in their current lineup.
Thank you, TW!
It sounds like the Tec 315 may be coming to TWE as well. So that is good news.
Just like PS85 eventually did!
The 315 feels nothing like a prestige mp mold then, very subjective, different flex different grommets, different string spacing etc,. Guys I have been playing with the PT 630 since 94, I took some down to FL to Emilio Sanchez one of the guys who invented this frame to check out, he now plays with the 25 and said they are close enough, considering the situation, You can easily get them in any grip and match as many frames as you like which is more important than subjective feel. It is slim picking withe PT630 , only way you are going to get a reissue PT630 is if head brings back the old caps, they are long gone, not gonna happen and most important if head gets a hold of tons of Twaron fibers at low cost, again not gonna happen, they have inegra which is suppose to replace Twaron at much cheaper cost. Guys stop with the nostalgia, the PT630 is the best feeling frame on the planet but time has passed it by and that is coming from the biggest PT 630 fan, I am playing with an aero pro lite 2013, now that frame plays nothing like a PT630 but I win with it, the game has changed, time to move on. I love the buttery feeling but I am not winning with the PT630, more and more pros who once played the prestige MP mold are moving more towards an open stiffer bigger frame. RIP PT630
Lol..plenty of pros still use pt57s. That was a little over the top.
There's a certain finality to this if the man himself is saying it...
BTW - can the PT630 really be credited as the brainchild of Emilio Sanchez, as mentioned above?
I'd probably get a 630 or 280 reissue (4 5/8 or 4 1/2). It would have to have the same flexibility and the feeling would have to be very close. Head could probably get really close engineering kevlar or basalt fibers into it to get the same dampening and frequency. It would be a challenge the engineers would probably love.
Are the new PT57A made of twaron?
To op: I'd buy 3-4 in 4 3/8.
I know what he means. They are rather heavy sticks with a closed pattern. The game is all about head speed now. So you have to adjust. I do think the Tec 315 is much easier to use and more suited for the modern game. You can customize it and pick 16 or 18 mains. It has a lot more easy whip to it.
It's a great option for someone who has used the PT630 and is sick of hunting them down and paying high prices plus dealing with that weight.
That is exactly it. I have a 630 and a PT57A. They end up being a bit too much for me at 12.3 oz. and not quite as head light as I like. The 315 has a similar feel and comfort but is more user friendly.
I have fewer problems with mishits with the 315 which is surprising because it is slightly narrower than a 630 but a bit longer.
nice post, kevlar is dupont ( wilson ) , again not very cheap stuff, basalt is wilson which is cheap; and now Head came up with Innegra, remember prince Boron? that stuff is very expensive. how about just plain old fiberglass, only problem is it weighs more and fractures. So Head with this innegra found the lightest and most cost effective strongest tinsel material which does not fracture. How well does it dampen? well not enough like Twaron or else the 25 LE would be super close.
I found a dampening material that I put on my 25LE to make them feel like my PT630, sorry not gonna share them here, But they do add weight and I end up with a frame that is over 12oz,
What are the specs of this racquet?
I don't know anything about special run mfg in a racquet factory but I am surprised this hasn't happened.
Its a fact that theres definately more players now then lets say 6-7 years ago that are playing with stiffer larger frames, but to say that time has passed more flexible and control oriented 18x20 frames i would say is an exaggeration. Depending on what style of play you have you can get more or less rewards from a control frame, but if you generate a lot of power on youre own you can still definately reap the benefits of such frames. And looking at the top 100 you can see that there are plenty of players still using control frames, or why not look at world number one Djokovic that doesnt use a pt 57 but a similar very flexible raquet, hes frame may be old school but hes game certainly isnt. RIP PT630 i think not, tastes may vary and if you play better with an aero pro go for it but there are still benefits that counts with control frames....my 2 cents.
I would definately buy 4 PC 630, preferably 16x19 pattern.
With the TK82S pallets - if thats not possible no pallets at all.
And I would buy from TW Europe, as shipping costs from US to Europe would really hurt.
Give the people what they want!
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