Wealthy Families and Scholarships

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  1. Tennishacker

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    Yes it also happens in tennis.

    I know a girl at USC that was offered her freshman or sophomore year in high school.
     
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  2. goober

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    I was specifically talking about football. There is a huge difference between taking a campus visits and getting an actual offer. Anyone can visit a campus on their own dime any time they want. You could be a 2 star prospect. If you actually follow college football recruiting you would know that this is pretty uncommon to get a offer as a sophmore. I am pretty sure that this is one of UCLA's firsts offer to a sophmore in football Most recruiting services will not even assign 5 star ratings to freshman and sophmores in football. It does happen, but not very often. This guy only played one year of football and is not some athletic freak.

    In other sports I am very aware that it happens.
     
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    Apprently in college football the NCAA changed the rules in 2010 to that no written offers can be made till Aug 1 going into your senior year. So there is actually a very recent trend to start making verbal offers earlier and earlier, but these are completely nonbinding on the schools and the player. So these verbal offers to sophs are actually not that meaningful since the school can pull them if you don't progress like they think you should in their junior and senior years. U Miss gave so far has given out 239 verbal offers this year. Since schools are limited to max 25 per class, you can bet many of the verbal offers are not going to mean much. If you offer 10 RBs and all 10 RB committ, Ole Miss is probably not going to take more than 2 of them.
     
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  4. Misterbill

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    Yes, verbal commitments are not binding.

    But..............there are serious adverse implications for a program that gets a reputation for reneging on its verbals. I don't know the facts, but if UMiss (Ole Miss, right?) gave out 239 verbals before any were rejected.....I think I can better come to grips with their W-L record in SEC football.
     
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  5. floridatennisdude

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    There's a difference between rich people and wealthy people. An NFL player is rich. A media mogul is wealthy. Rich folks can provide for their kids. Wealthy ones can provide for their great grand kids.

    I don't have a firm cutoff, but if P-Diddy buys one of his kids a $300k car for his 16th birthday...I'm thinking wealthy. The kind of wealth that could fund an endowed scholarship for the program in perpetuity.
     
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  6. SoCal10s

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    in which sport ? tennis?? no USC has been the nation's top pick in tennis.. if you said Krista H. maybe but I can't see anyone else ,but she's going to Standford ...
     
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  7. Misterbill

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    Madison Westby
     
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  8. SoCal10s

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    you've gotto be kidding ? there are a few local girls better than her ... Hibi,Marakova,Andrews,Xie,even Yee from Vagas .. why would USC go after her? no wonder they don't have NCAA rings like the men's team...
     
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    Not to take anything away from the local players you named, but Madison Westby is a fine prospect. I think she would be credit to any program.
     
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    I've never seen Madison play so I can't really say .. maybe I don't know much about college recruiting ,but if I wanted to be the top NCAA team in the country ,I would go after the top 5 players from the recruiting class .. then I would go after some top foreigners from the ITF list.. with all that USC has to offer ,I think they could do better in recruiting ..
     
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    These kind of back to back posts are really comical
     
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  12. SoCal10s

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    I'm the new ''fedace"" for USC... for 1 more year at least .. just have fun with it...
     
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  13. Tennishacker

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    SC is a sleeper. They had a young team last year, Ramos did not play up to expectation as a senior.(I always thought she was over rated)

    I think Coach RG is too nice with the girls.

    What does "1 more year" mean?
     
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  14. SoCal10s

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    for sure a sleeper ... top three are solid,but they really need a top freshman to help them get over the hump.. seeing how Burdette is doing so well in the USO ,Zoe and Danielle has wins over her this year.. D.L.'s win in the NCAA was hugh.. if they could have gotten Krista Hardebeck,things would be really interesting.. this is the kind of recruiting I'm talking about that USC women's team needs ..
    1 more year? I'm changing my allegiance if they(men's and women's)don't do well this coming season..
     
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  15. Satsuma Illini

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    Who could possibly take their place?
     
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  16. SoCal10s

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    UCLA if DN turns pro.. they have solid men and women team .. but another SoCal team I really love is Pepperdine ... nice to be around the ocean breeze .. not to mention our D3 team Claremont ..
     
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  17. Misterbill

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    Where's the love for LMU?
     
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  18. SoCal10s

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    sorry ,I don't know anyone on that team...
     
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    After the USO win there was a mantra throughout CA - please please please go pro (and get out of college tennis). So I am with ya on that one. However socal10s, it sounds like you are a fair weather fan? Or do you just like spreading the love to all of socal?

    Sad that Pepperdine is sanctioned again, Adam is a cool cat.
     
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  20. SoCal10s

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    as title : SoCal10s.. I'm a big fan of SoCal10s because I've seen so many of the kids grow up around here ... UCI has a load of talented,smart,and well mannered socal players I hope they do well..
     
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  21. Tennishacker

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    UCI recruits pretty well locally. Men's team seems to underachieve, while the women's team does well.

    It's nice to see a lot of the local socal kids play at UCI.
     
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  22. mctennis

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    Exactly true. It's a merit based scholarship. Let him keep it. Sonds like he worked hard to EARN it.
     
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  23. SoCal10s

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    D1 men's teams are tough .. if they were D2 they would win the NCAA ,they should win the ''big west'' this year .. maybe get top 25..
     
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    Seriously. I read an article that said even students from rich families should receive merit aid because if they're forced to reject it, that is detrimental to the student as it is saying something along the lines of "even if you work hard, if you're rich we won't reward you further".
     
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