Weight and balance of earlier OS POGs

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  1. Keifers

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    Can anyone tell me the strung weight and balance of the POG3 OS and POG4 OS (see below)?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Modern POG has different layup, bluepirnts, internal cosmetics if you will. The flexpoints and graphite were different. My old 4 stripe felt better than a ps 85, different racquet than the tour version. I thought the tour felt unplayable and light in comparrison. Not light in weight, but rather the integrity and power of the materials. Like an Ncode the tour has absolutley no plough thru whatsoever, balls kick up nicely but have no weight behind them.
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    one stripe

    All of the good, soft thick dark, horsetail like six foot continuous strands of top graphite were used up about 10 years ago ( according to my sources at leading racquet companies). This little known fact is the primary reason that the feel of vintage frames (their greatest attribute) can never be duplicated.
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    scientific data is secondary to player feedback (this from a contact who builds racquets for countless top pros)
     
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  3. MichaelChang

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    I believe I have posted in a similar thread regarding POG3 and 4.

    My POG3, original leather grip, weights 13.0 oz.

    My POG4, original leather, weights 12.3 oz.

    I have roughtly measured their balance on the edge of my table. They are both about 6-7pt head light.

    My POG2, with TW leather grip, weights 12.4oz, and slightly more head lighter than the POG3 and 4. The only problem with the POG2 is the grip too short, and of course, impossible to find replacement individual grommets. I have had mine strung for a very very long time and never hit it. I just hang it on my wall. Racket almost 9.5 condition...
     
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  4. plasma

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    was pog 3 the first mid. There was no teardrop mid, only the weird looking OS, correct?
     
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  5. MichaelChang

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    Yes I think so. The first OS came out in the 76 or 77(?), made in USA.
    The first POG MID came out in 83 or 84(?) and was the 1stripe with bumper guard version. Not exactly sure where it was made. "Made In Taiwan" I have one, not sure if there was a US made version. It is good that over 20+ years the POG Mid has hardly changed. Talking about a long-lasting classic racket line...
     
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  6. Keifers

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    Thanks for the info, MC. Much appreciated.

    I just received a POG4 OS (purchased on the bay) and it weighs 12.2 oz and is just over 8 pts HL, strung with a 16 ga synthetic gut. The previous owner replaced the original grip with two overgrips -- surprisingly, it's quite comfortable. Normally, I would replace the overgrips with a regular grip, except 8 pts HL is the balance that my strokes are grooved for, so I'll probably leave them for now. It's a nice hit.
     
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  7. MichaelChang

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    Enjoy the POG4. My POG4 strung with synthetic guts had an annoying "ping" noise, I had to put on a dampener to mute it down. Not sure if other POG4s have similar problem. POG3 had no such noise.
     
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    pog4 has more plough thru, dwell time, and feel than the ps 85...by far.
     
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  9. Keifers

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    Thanks. What are your favorite strings and tensions for the POG3 and POG4 (Oversize)?
     
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  10. MichaelChang

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    I have been dealing with a mild tennis elbow for the past year or so, so can not really try different strings, only use multi at the moment.
     
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    pog 5 and POG 6 are made of terrible pingy materials and have no plough trhu. POG 4 is stiff but cushioned and the best racquet ever. POG 3 is unstrung and in my closet awaiting trial, I am currently too broke to string it. Didn't like the blue logbody chang, felt modern. Looked great and performed decent, but not POG level.
     
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  12. MichaelChang

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    I guess the Chang longbody only fits certain players, like Chang, lol. In general longbody rackets are just too "long" at the net that people have to stay only at the baseline.

    Edit: the Chang longbody you felt modern might be the Chang "Titanium". The Chang "Graphite" felt heavier and more old-school.
     
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    It was the metallic blue one, looked like it's crossbar needed viagra...great racquet, just not enough dwell time and plough thru...did the same thing with the green prestige xl, chopped an inch off the bottom.....a racquet bris; with plasma as mohale....REVENGE!!!!
     
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  14. Keifers

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    Sorry to hear about your TE. It can be a tricky thing to get rid of once it's happened -- especially if you don't want to stop playing tennis altogether.

    My POG3 OS came with strings stamped with "PRINCE SYNTHETIC GUT 16", white in color. I'm guessing they're pretty old (although not the original strings because the grommets show that it's been strung at least once before the current string job). Amazing how well these strings still play.
     
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    A good friend of mine has a POG6. He's hit with my POG3 and POG4, and he liked them both better. Says the POG6 is way too stiff.
     
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  16. MichaelChang

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    Yes I remember them. A few of the prince 90 rackets I acquired over the years, have this string on them. Very old indeed. This usually is a good sign for these old frames, it means the racket hasn't been used for a long time (thus hopefully still in good condition) :)
     
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