Went fat, trying to get back.

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    I went through some tough emotional and mental issues about 5 or 6 years back and my life changed dramatically. Before the issues I was in the gym 5-7 days a week, mountain biking all the time and hiking a ton too. I was also holding down a fairly physical job. I weighed 150 pounds soaking wet at 5 foot 11. After the issues I became depressed and sedentary and literally more than doubled my body weight. At my biggest I was up in the mid 330's. Since Jan 1st I've dropped my weight to about 303. My goal is to drop at least a 130 pounds more.

    I dropped the weight pretty much with an adjusted diet. With this winter having been so snowy and so cold I couldn't get out much to walk. But so far this week I've probably put in 10 miles walking and 3 miles on my bike. Eventually when I get some weight off my knees I'll try to do some jogging.

    I just had to share that. I'll check in occasionally with progress.
     
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    Hi Mike, thanks for sharing your experiences..I've been on a variation of the gluten free/paleo diet for about 2 weeks now with good results..It's basically giving up processed grains and sugar which raises your insulin levels and causing abnormal calorie intake and more cravings..I am doing well so far and am waiting 4-6 more weeks to post my experience and hopefully some before and after pictures..try to google or utube some info to get motivated or email me comeback@safe-mail.net if you need any help
     
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    This is a before. I'll get an after soon.
     
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    This is a pic I took today. Not a very good one but it is plenty good enough to show the added weight.

    I have some video's of me hitting some practice serves at the park the other day but I'm hesitant to post them. For one I'm not good with the editing software and my clothes are actually not fitting that well after losing this 30 pounds and my crack seems to be on display after every serve. lol
     
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    Thanks for posting the pictures Mike,. You are a young guy and a tennis player..Great..Many of us here would love to have your youth but time marches on and we older guys have to accept it..For you though, you have your whole life ahead of you..I'm sure whatever happened to you was traumatic enough to stress you out greatly..Did you know that great stress increases more cortisol (a natural hormone) which makes you hold much more weight than normal..I took 4 books out of the library by these authors Jeff Volek, Gary Taube, Robb Wolf..They are all great and motivating, which is what you need right now to get started..Try at least looking them up on Amazon and read the motivating comments by hundreds of people..it might help.
    here is a link to Robb Wolf's books' comments http://www.amazon.com/The-Paleo-Sol...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
     
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    Thank you. I'll have to check my local library.
     
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    Welcome back Mike. I share a similar story. Just keep working at and keep fighting. Staying active is the real key.
     
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    I'm hitting the courts tonight.:)

    And I hope everything is going well with you.
     
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    You've got a very good serve Mike, it looks like you know how to play,,
    Best of all you took the challenge of going out in the cold, snow laced courts to practice..You are on your way my friend..Keep going and by the summer there will be a NEW MIke
     
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    Thanks for the support. I'm definitely feel myself gaining some momentum.
     
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    Don't get down. It happens. And, although we always sterotype women for feeling frustrated, depressed about their bodies, plenty of men (especially ex athletes) go through the same thing.

    Though, not as much weight as in your experience, I had a pretty significant weight gain (50lbs) in law school. Had a shin splint right before starting, couldn't be active like I was used to. Then just stressed out by school which led to eating (bad food) and drinking. Plus, there were legit reasons to eat and drink besides stress. I was in school, I wanted to be social and go out with my classmates. Then I was semi-depressed at getting in such bad shape, blah, blah. It was a pretty quick cycle and before I knew it I couldn't recognize myself. It sucked.

    During my third year, I took stock of everything. Basically laughed at myself. Realized that if I could put it on, I could take it off. At first, I just cut back on food and drink. Seriously, didn't even really improve the quality of food and drink. I still ate some bad food and drank alcohol, but just less.

    Started walking everyday. Would go to the track and run a little. Frustrating because my performance was SO much worse than previously, but I always felt so much better. And exercise actually reduced my appetite. Then I started to improve food choices - no eating late, more fruits and vegetables, lean protein, salads, whole grains.

    then, it all started to roll the other direction. I got in better shape which would enable me to work out longer or more intensely. Kept on eating good, but was realistic - it wasn't like I was never going to have a beer or a slice of pizza again. Just tried to eat well most of the time, and when I didn't eat well, I didn't go crazy - 2 beers when out at the bar, instead of 5. 2 slices of pizza, instead of a whole pizza. If you can learn this, you can stay sane while you get in shape. Eventually, I lost all the weight.

    When I was younger (I'm now 40), I exercised so much that I could basically eat what I wanted. Now, diet is much more of a focus. I'm not going to recommend any particular diet, or even recommend something called a "diet". Everyone knows that overall calories, moderation, healthy foods, etc., are all necessary. It's a change in habits.

    The one tip I will offer is don't look at your progress, your days of trying to get back in shape as an "either-or" propositon. I see too many people do this. In their mind, they have to be "perfect" - all vegetables, brown rice, lean protein, no sugar, etc. They'll do it for a day or a week, but inevitably something will happen. They get invited out and have a beer. There's cake in the office at lunch and they have a slice. They're in a rush, so go get a sandwich at Jimmy Johns or a slice of pizza. That will happen, and if it does, just regroup. Do not use it as an excuse to go crazy and tell yourself you'll start being perfect again the next day. Again, I see it a lot. People dedicated to eating better and generally doing well, but one thing goes off-plan, so they figure, "well I screwed up today, so I might as well eat like I used to, lots of junk food, big amounts, and I'll start tomorrow." That's the road to nowhere, because you'll inevitably, repeatedly not be perfect. So, if you have a healthy breakfast, and then for some reason have a candy bar during the day, fine. Regroup and eat a healthy dinner, and go from there. Don't destroy the day and start over tomorrow. It's all about the big picture.

    And, of course, activity. Again, no need to be perfect every day. Just do something. Running, swimming, biking, tennis, weights, whatever. Try to get your heart rate up. Walking is underrated and a good thing to do when you're sore or if your motivation is really down for exercising. Just get your phone or MP3 and something you enjoy listening to and go for a walk, outside or on the treadmill.

    It's a slog, but once you get going, you can do it. And, you'll be happy you did. Good luck!
     
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    Those stormy, snowing days are the most fun to walk in. Think, we pay upwards of 90 bucks to ski and snowboard in those condition.
    I feel the difference in just 15 lbs of excess weight. Like you, I'm an inch shy of 6', and played my best tennis at around 135 lbs., up to age 29.
    Ballooned to 155 when I turned 35, I barely make it down to 145 after a summer of windsurfing, starving myself, and tennis.
    After Christmas holidays, could barely move at 165 lbs. Now working back down around 158, heading in the right direction.
    Get a g/f who rides her bike 50 miles just for fun (twice a week), and one who windsurfs 5 days a week, and likes to run 5 miles each day.
     
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    Man, I can't believe you left the toilet seat up!

    I'm kidding. I know your situation very well, once my wife became preggers with our daughter, I gained a bunch of weight. Everyday it's a struggle to drop the weight.
    I'm not where I used to be but I have managed to tone a little bit using an exercise program that I can do at my own pace; and playing tennis as often as I can.

    The one thing I do when I play is that I push myself to hit as many balls as possible, it's too easy to let a ball go by because you might be a half step too late, you gotta make yourself get there and try! There's the ultimate satisfaction of dripping buckets of sweat after going hard for a couple of hours - the sweat is fat crying.

    As far as workouts, try the Spartacus workout: http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/high-intensity-circuit-routine/

    I do it in a small space and I only commit 30 minutes to this (it's as much as I can do right now). It's tough at first, but like everything else in life, it gets better. :)

    Keep pushing my friend. We're here for you on these boards.
     
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    Thanks everybody.
     
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    So you're saying you have 3 girlfriends? Teach me master LeeD
     
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    Anyway about tennis. I guess I'm a NTRP 3.0. Which sucks because I think I definitely have the strokes to be at least a 3.5/4.0. My lack of quickness(inability to reach balls most people, and my former self would easily get to) and stamina really bring my game down. Eventually I'll get there though.
     
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    cluckcluck, same girl.
    You can look for fat sedentary S/O's if you want, or you can associate with athletes who want to stay in shape even past their 50's.
    It's your choice....meet them at bars, or out snowboarding, windsurfing, playing tennis, or surfing.
     
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    What is an S/O?
     
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    Significant Other....
    I don't know if you guys prefer girls, women, females, guys, or whatever, so I leave it open.
     
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    S/O = SO = significant other = main squeeze.

    You might take a look at the Sardine diet mentioned in the Juicing thread. Be sure that you are also doing a combination of muscle development (weight training), rope skipping (and, possibly, other plyometric exercises), aerobic training and interval (anaerobic) training.
     
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    It sounds like a no-brainer but diet and exercise are the only ways to solve your problem. It doesn't have to be crazy workouts. If you can spend 30 MINUTES a day doing something fun, you're golden.
     
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    I've been walking and or riding my bike daily for the past week. I just got back from the club a little while ago. Their scale has me at 303. Last week I was 308.

    As far as my tennis goes I started strong, faded, then came out of it and performed fairly well in my last set. (all doubles today) I do feel like my movement around the court a little better but there were a few occasions when I was winded, which probably shouldn't happen in doubles.
     
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    Push yourself. And disregard the diet advice. They don't work, period! Remember the Zone diet? The Atkins? The Richard Simmons no fat diet? They're ALL fads. If you want to eat something, then eat it. Otherwise, like any obsession it builds and builds and builds until finally it erupts into a violent explosion of binge eating.

    At my absolute worst, I was 5' 10" 270lbs. I lost ALL that weight THE HARD WAY. Running, getting up early, cutting out all processed junk. At one point I was a lean 175lbs. Today, because of work and school and life in general I'm up to 230lbs. But I eat PLENTY of vegetables and my metabolism is through the roof. Moral of the story, you're not gonna lose 150lbs in half a year. Change comes gradually through long-term life-style choices.
     
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    I can see that you have tennis talent by the way you hit your serves Mike. But yeah, that weight is holding you back.

    I wouldn't bother with stepping on a scale for about a year or two.
    Getting to your optimal weight is going to take at least that long. It's just a matter of sticking to several really simple lifestyle changes, no matter what. But you already know that.

    Don't worry about embedding vids here. I don't think it can be done here. Also, you generally don't need to worry about editing serving practice vids. It's the lulls in between point play that need to be edited out of vids.

    Looking forward to more vids. Oh, by the way I was 203 CT for a long time.
     
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    I'll bet you miss the snow.:)



    Yea, I'm in it for the long haul. I know mentally everything I need to do to get back to where I was and it gets easier to "be good", both diet and activity wise daily. It's early but I'm fairly confident I'll reach my goal.
     
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    Yes, I think this is a key element. I found that just by cutting out processed sugars and carbs in what I eat and drink, and with the same activity level, then my "normal" weight is about 30 lbs. less ... and, very importantly, no inordinately protruding gut.
     
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    The only thing I liked about being in CT was that I was close to NYC. :)
     
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    Low carb is better seen not as a diet, but as a revision downwards of what should be seen as a normal daily intake of carbs.
     
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    This is simply the best workout and fitness moniker I've heard. :shock:
     
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    Hi Mike,

    Great thread. This TT group is a great bunch. Keep working at it. You will get there. I have some advice a bit different from others. If I was at your weight and playing tennis, I would not push myself so hard on the court and do most your hard work off the court and safely to protect my knees, back.. etc until I got to a better weight. The amount of stress you are putting on your knees and joints with the extra weight is an issue. The worst thing you can do is have an injury in this phase of your recover. I would kick butt in a safe way...(pool, bikes.. treadmill) Tennis is murder on the body. Take a route that will allow you to lose weight and still play without injury for a long time. Your body will thank you later and allow you to play in to your 80s.

    Good luck in your quest!

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    That is good advice and is certainly something I've thought about but I am a fairly competitive person. It's tough to take it easy and would be even tougher to stop playing completely. Tennis is my diamond in the rough right now.
     
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    This is some great advice. I agree, this is a life long endeavor, what is 1 day or even 1 week of screwing up a plan when it's over your life span!!! Don't let the bad days get you down or change your motivation because your gonna have them!! You should plan to diet 90% of the time.
     
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    Congratulation!!! Small steps but you will get there. Be clear about why you want to make that change and focus on that. Imagine where you want to be and how would it make you feel and stay there mentally...and don't look back. It is not going to be easy but it is going to be so worth it. Can't wait to see your after pictures :)
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    Well that is a stark contrast in body weight but it's temporary as long as you address the underlying issue. Whatever happened 6 years ago -- that needs to be painfully, methodically analyzed.

    Once that's finished the root of the weight gain is gone and you'll feel MUCH better. Treat the cause - not the symptoms. Hope your long-term journey goes well and I applaud you for putting it here.
     
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    I played today. Two sets of singles and a tie break. Unfortunately I didn't get any footage. I felt pretty good. Lost the first set 2-6 and won the second 6-4. Lost the tie break 7-4. I didn't really anticipate winning any sets but my serve really carried me through the second set. I had pretty good power and very strong control. I only double faulted maybe 3 times which for me is pretty good.
     
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    Good going my man! Keep at it. Once you start finding your rhythm you'll start to play better (and lighter) and begin to push yourself harder.

    Keep us posted on your achievements and failures.
     
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    Gotta say that I am really baffled that so much of the low-carb sub-thread was purged from this thread. While some of it may have been a bit less than civil, there was quite a bit that was germane to the subject at hand. Is a low-carb diet a viable option? Should the OP consider a low-carb diet as a long-term solution or only as a short-term option? What exactly is meant by a low-carb diet? Is a diet that is fairly high in carbs but severely restricts refined sugars, sugar derivatives and refined/processed starches/carb still a "low-carb" diet? Should it (Ornish) be considered?
     
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    Great going! Keep it up!
     
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    Good job so far... keep it up!

    You probably already know this by now, but remember that weight loss is like 80% diet and 20% exercise. Just keep watching what you eat. The 'carb vs no carb' argument is a bit silly tbh... just eat below your calorie maintenance and stay motivated!

    You seem like a younger guy, so in addition to this place, I recommend going on r/fitness on reddit for added motivation. If anything, its a great place to see progress pictures of people who have gone from 400 lbs to ripped! To constantly see people making progress will help you along as well.

    Additionally, I have to agree with steve... please be careful out on the court and pace yourself! Tennis is hell on even underweight people and the last thing you want to do is hurt yourself.

    Good luck!
     
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    Thank you, CFed, Rel and fro!
     
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    Not really silly at all, if we are concerned about health. Losing excess is a good thing and many of the low-carb diets can be used for needed the weight reduction -- at least as a short-term solution. However, long-term use of many of the low-carb diets might not be healthy as indicated by numerous health/nutritional experts and agencies. OTOH, significantly cutting back on refined sugar sources and also reducing some of the other processed carbs is a probably better idea for health than severely reducing carb intake for an extended period of time .
     
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    Below 300. 298. Going to treat myself to a Lobster dinner.
     
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    Why not?

    I live in Westchester County, New York, which probably has the same climate as where you are assuming you are in normal part of Connecticut, and A) It wasn't particularly snowy this year, and B) I never missed a day of walking due to snow or cold. Get out there and walk anyway!! As Lee said, snowy day walks can be nice, and even temperatures in the single digits aren't troublesome if you dress properly.

    Rain can be tricky, but snow or cold? Get out there, kid!

    And don't be coming back to us in July saying something like "with the hot temperatures this summer, I haven't been able to walk much" either!!!
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    Ok then. Good luck!
     
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