Went fat, trying to get back.

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  1. Relinquis

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    don't mention it... a friend of mine has lost 20 kg over the past year.

    good diet and the bike and treadmill are good friends. she would spend an hour to an hour and half on the bike or treadmill 6 times a week in addition to kickboxing training (sparring and circuit training) 4 times a week. it was the regular cycling and walking/jogging/running that helped her stay consistent.

    put in the hours and follow the diet was the advice her coach gave her. it worked.
     
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    Is that a lot or a little?

    Hello, this is America here!
     
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    I just jogged about 1/3 a mile and not very fast. It doesn't sound like much, but for me I think it is an accomplishment. It is something to build on.
     
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    You ever play in the CTC in the summer?
     
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    No. I'm not really even sure what the CTC is.
     
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    Of course it is. I once couldn't jog much more than that back when I was a smoker and sedentary sort. I'm still not much of runner, but the three or 4 miles I can do now would have seemed unthinkable years ago.

    But remember, while exercise is important for a number or reasons, it's really diet changes that will give you the most results.
     
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    Mike,

    Your story is fascinating. I'm rooting for you. Can you share with us exactly how you managed to double your weight in 6 years? Tons of people don't exercise one bit, and do not gain 150 lbs. It's not because you were sedentary. Were you eating like crazy? Do you think it was more hormonal and biological?
     
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    ^ Can you say, "Supersize it"? 'tis very unusual to gain that much in 6 years.



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  10. Relinquis

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    20 kgs is 44 LBS.. in almost a year.
     
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    this is good!

    When i first returned to tennis, i couldn't finish my 1st practice session because i was winded; I lasted less than 40 mins and was demoralised. But i stuck with it, practicing regularly and focused on eating and sleeping well, by the end of the month i was doing 1.5 hour training sessions and feeling happy at the end.

    build up gradually. just make sure you're making progress. also, the bike is low impact if jogging and running becomes too much for your joints. you'll probably want to mix it up. just make sure that it becomes part of your daily routine and that you rest well at night.

    Getting a personal trainer might be useful if it is in your budget. Even if only someone you meet weekly basis to catch up on your progress.
     
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    Well, it's a long story and not really one I've ever shared with anyone in my personal life but about (probably closer to) 5 years ago I had a psychotic episode. Diagnosis schizophrenia. I was hospitalized several times the shortest being like a weekend and the longest 3 months. Basically I was hearing voices. The voices led to extreme anxiety and the anxiety led to suicidal thoughts and even actions. One time i ate something like 300 aspirin, most of which I vomited up which is probably why I'm still here. The suicidal thing led to depression and that all led to social isolation and apathy. I was at times sleeping 12-14 hours a day. The isolation distanced me from the friends I use to hike, mountain bike and play various sports with and my job was gone too. The hours i was awake we spent mostly in front of the TV. I also overate and and really ate too much of the wrong stuff (hot pockets and microwavable pizzas, chips and whatever else was around). The doctor said the medicine I was taking at the time probably was not helping matters though that is an excuse I don't use because I was doing nothing healthy. Anyway these past 3 years have been going well. The medicine and therapy have helped. I seldom have any voices bothering me. Still apathy can be an issue but I'm very thankful to have survived the experience.
     
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    You are very brave. Good luck
     
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    Girls can cause some serious damage on us good guys, ;) (I'm not sure if thats what triggered the episode--I had a reaction to paxil in highschool and had a manic episode back then as well) 2 years ago I was 195 soaken wet and got to my highest ever weight of 239 after a pretty hard time emotionally. I'm trying to stay away from all of the good food this awesome country has to offer and have been working out 6 days a week for the past 3 weeks now and already at 224 (but before deciding to stick to a workout routine I was 231 and am 28yo 5'11 M btw). I also allow myself to cheat once a week or I feel I would go crazy.

    My workout routine consists of:

    -Either a tennis match or running 2 or 3 miles as a pre cardio,
    -then straight to the bench press (do 5 sets of 10 reps of 145lbs),
    -then 100 curls with like 50lbs on there, (4 sets of 25reps)
    -and 100 tricep reps on the bowflex...
    -and about twice a week about 100 leg presses with like 60 lbs on there.

    I need to incorporate some ab workouts into my routine next week as thats my main problem. its very hard to make myself workout and it SUCKS ( Pandora radio is also a big Help!) but it also clears my mind and helps me get over those pestering emotional issues I've been going through as well the past 2 years. I hope within the next 60 days I will lose 20 pounds.

    I do wanna say I'm NO WORKOUT EXPERT AT ALL, and literally do numbers of reps I can count that are pretty big and make me pretty tired. If anybody has any tips for me on my routine please let me know. Thanks. Good luck to ya too Mike, here for ya.

    If you're taking depakote or zyprexa, stop and ask your doctor if there are alternatives such as geodon etc.. because they cause serious weight gain
     
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    Thanks Lee.

    also I was taking clozapine. Which has many side effects, one of which is weight gain. I'm not sure how much if at all it affected ME in that way though.
     
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    good luck to you and take care of yourself. you sound like a brave dude.
     
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    It seems like clozapine saved your life, but it has alot of side effects, including weight gain. You will really need to be careful about your diet, and do your best.
    http://www.drugs.com/sfx/clozapine-side-effects.html
     
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    .good luck and I hope the best for you!
     
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    I've lost a lot of weight over the past couple of years with a lot of work on diet and nutrition and exercise. In general, diet and nutrition are more important than exercise and the type of exercise can make a big difference.

    For diet, I cut out as much sugar as I could (I typically eat under 20 grams per day), dropped carbs to 20-33% and track everything that I eat using the Livestrong MyPlate web application.

    On exercise, I recommend "The hierarchy of fat loss" by Cosgrove. It's reproduced all over the web but here's one link. If you were in the Boston area, I'd suggest going to one of Mike Boyles fitness places to lose the weight but you're not in this area.

    http://www.t-nation.com/free_online...raining_performance/the_hierarchy_of_fat_loss

    Tennis is what I'd consider a great interval workout and you can lose a lot of weight playing tennis but you have to be fit enough to move and moving around the tennis court puts a lot of stress on your lower joints. I would look into doing interval workouts that don't put a lot of stress on your joints and keep the tennis light. That joint stress can haunt you when you're older.

    Are you still on the antipsychotics?

    I have a series of pictures from really fat to where I am now and most people can't believe the pictures - I keep it on my phone.
     
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    Thanks for the info and yes on the anti psychotics. I'm taking fazaclo at the moment which is I guess quite similar to the clozapine except that it is dissolved under the tongue rather than swallowed. My doctor says the side effects should be a little less.

    Edit: also if you would be willing to share those picture I'd be interested in seeing them.
     
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    Also I have some video of me hitting serves today. I'll probably let it upload over night since the file is rather large.
     
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    That means that you will have a tougher time on weight loss - so you need to be as efficient as possible in losing weight.
     
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    Yea, so far so good. I think I can keep it up.
     
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    I have found that controlling carbs is a reliable strategy to cut down modern junk consumption (most of it is "low fat", "skimmed" or "fat free", btw).
    A "balanced diet" with a target on calorie intake is pretty hard to follow as the elements associated with carb in take make you crave more food.
     
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    You're looking smaller than your last video already.

    Advice on serve.........I don't have any real technical advice because I'm no expert, but take more time in between serves and concentrate on the form for each one.

    Advice on weight loss.......again, not an expert, but these have been working for me.
    1) Set a loose calorie goal and a loose carbs/fat/protein % goal. I've found that by doing this and tracking everything I eat, I eat much smarter. If I'm hungry, I will use the % goals to help me choose my snack and stay on track.
    2) If you're not going to be able to follow the goals one day or over a weekend, just go with it and enjoy, but don't track those days. Knowing how bad you've been won't help, so just forget it and get back to it the next day.
     
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    Thanks man!
     
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    Go into fat burning mode....you want an alkaline body. JUICE veggies not fruits. Burn bucket loads of fat!!! GReeeen veggies...kale, broccoli, collard greens, spinach, etc!
     
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    Veggies have been my best friend lately.
     
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    I'm supposed to play a bit tomorrow with my friend Pete. If it happens I'll have some footage for you all. Probably warming up, maybe some game points.
     
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    Do you have some links to explain this theory?
     
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    The problem with juicing fruits is that it makes it a lot easier to consume a lot of sugars - yes they are from fruits so probably better than HFCS but sugars are still a lot of calories that don't really satiate.
     
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    If I can figure how to edit these videos down I may have some doubles action to share.
     
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    Just spent the last hour editing down the footage. They are uploading to youtube right now.
     
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    down to 294. That is 39 pounds since Jan 1st.
     
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    That's pretty serious weight loss.

    I'd suggest taking pictures on the way down. I have a picture with me going from 245 to 172 with five or six pictures pasted in.
     
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    I have to say I'm feeling significantly better on the courts. I can't wait to get to my goal weight. I'll be flying.

    I thought I had some good footage of me playing singles yesterday but I set the camera up and forgot to hit record. I played 3 sets against the guy that kicked my ass several days ago. He beat me again but I'm actually proud of the way I played. I served consistently and stayed in the points. I lost 6-3, 6-2, 6-3. It was a closer set than those score indicate.
     
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    Yea, and if Mike takes pics he can look at them when he's much lighter and remember how far he's come.
     
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    that's pretty cool.

    just watched a bit of the doubles. your opponents are hitting their 2nd serves pretty short. you should position yourself an additional step inside the court on their 2nd serves. This will put more pressure on them, and will also make it easier for you to attack their serves.
     
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    Good for you! I am down about 20 pounds from mid February. I worked my butt off exercising, but what started the weight loss was my change in diet. For two the first two weeks I did not eat any sugar or carbs. After that still no sugar and low carb. The carbs I do eat are low on the glycemic index and only whole grain if a grain product. I do not want to live without carbs. Good Luck!
     
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    Good on ya man!

    In the last year or so I made it a quest to get into better shape myself.

    I went from 337 on March 12th, 2012, and now as of yesterday I weight 243!
     
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    Wow! nice job man! Did you follow any particular diet or exercise regimen?
     
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    Yeah that's the problem I have. I have this fitness pal app on my phone. I use it throughout the day to track what I eat. I find it easy to stay under my calories and fat, I probably even go less than I should some days. I heard somewhere that they don't really recommend eating less than 1800 calories a day for men, but some days I'll eat like 14-1600.

    However, I tend to obliterate the salt and sugar every day.
     
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    Initially I started slow, that was the key. I tried to cut down on fast food, and then work my way from there. Eventually I switched to diet soda, counting calories pretty regularly, and eliminating most sweets from my diet, like cookies, cake, ice cream. Every now and then I'll have a cheat day, but I'm at the point where I can go maybe 2-3 cheat days per month.

    I did also try this stupid diet a few times. I wouldn't recommend it. It's not so healthy, and you definitely won't lose as much weight as it promises you.

    http://themilitarydiet.com/military-diet-plan/

    Don't do it lol.
     
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    Yea, I'm pretty much doing the same.
     
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    No sodas, no candy, no fast food burgers/fries, go jogging twice a week or so, and eat a salad 4-5 days a week for lunch.

    That's what I do, and I'm not even trying to lose weight. That's just my normal diet, and if you can get to that point, that would be awesome!
     
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    > I find it easy to stay under my calories and fat, I probably even
    > go less than I should some days. I heard somewhere that they
    > don't really recommend eating less than 1800 calories a day for
    > men, but some days I'll eat like 14-1600.

    I sometimes go from about 200-1,000 for a week when I'm in serious weight loss mode but I'm more normally in the 1200-1800 range. You need some nutrients from the foods that you're eating and going low-cal may mean that you don't get enough of some things.

    BTW, I don't think that there's anything wrong with eating fats - as long as they aren't saturated and aren't bound into carbohydrates. Olive Oil on salad is an example of a good fat. Nuts are another example. Avocados, etc.
     
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    I just played two sets today against a friend. I lost 6-3, 6-3. I'm starting to feel pretty worn out. I think I've played like 5 days in a row and I have plans to hit again tomorrow. I'm thinking Wednesday will be a break day for me.
     

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