What are Federer's racquet specs(grip, weight, tension)?

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  1. 10sdude85

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    and please...nobody say anything about him changing his racquet head size, or changing his underwear or anything else.:neutral:
     
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    Here's a detailed playtest and eval of Roger's N90. As far as I know, nobody has gotten their hands on one of his K90s for a playtest and posted the results online. There are also pictures comparing the retail/Federer versions of the N90 if you look around the site. I swear, they're there somewhere.

    http://www.hdtennis.com/grs/federer_playtest.html

    Peace.
     
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  3. vmosrafa08

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    His tension depends on which surface he is playing on.
     
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  4. Fabfed

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    I've got one of Federer's actual match K6.1 Tour from the 08 season, will post some pictures of it along with the retail versions over the weekend. Federer uses a grip size of 4 3/8 (L3), with white overgrip.
     
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  5. m1stuhxsp4rk5

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    wow howd you get it? can you post some specs as well?
     
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  6. 10sdude85

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    federer's sticks pics

    yeah that would be great man!! please do so as im sure a lot of people on this message board would be greatful to see his actual frames.
     
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  7. Fabfed

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    C'mon guys, have a little faith, I was at work yesterday so I could only get round to posting the pics this weekend, afterall I gotta take the photos first right? Anyway, here are photos, Roger's racquet is the one on the left (I added the Federer photo with him holding his racquet for a bit of a comparison).

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  8. fanatic456

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    Okay, but how do you know he has played with it? Not being an arse, but just wondering.

    What are the specs, I'm sure EVERYONE here is dying to know weight and balance...oh, and is the string spacing EXACTLY the same as retail?

    Waiting with bated breath...
     
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  9. fanatic456

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    String spacing looks different in the pics, I don't believe that Feds stick is stock. Spacing on Feds looks alot more sparse at the bottom of the stringbed. Am I right Fab?
     
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  10. fanatic456

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    Please, please, please, can you bounce a tennis ball on the strings of both rackets whilst it is in your hands, and report back any differences (if any).

    I anticipate that Feds racket will have a much softer feel at the racket tip and edges. Is this true? Plus, I believe it may also make a different sound. Can you report back if the noise at the tip is hollow or muffled?

    A lot to ask, I know, but damn man, you will really be making my day with this info. :)
     
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  11. Sir Andrew of Roddick

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    For everyone whos doubting the pictures, just take a better look at them, they're not the same racket.
     
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  12. Fabfed

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    Actually, you are right, I wouldn't know if he had really used the racquet, its not like I got it from Roger personally. I got it at an IMG sponsored event and they told me it was used at one of the masters series events, possibly Madrid, I don't know. Sorry but I'm not a techinical guy where it comes to racquets, I know only about grip size and tension, and the tension probably varies for him from event to event, but I do not know the tension for this racquet. It is defitely a used racquet though, as there is a fairly deep scratch at the top of the frame, I have added a few more pics, the first pic shows the scratch and also note the string savers, second pic shows the racquet with a sort of date stamp on it probably specifying which match it was to be used for, the last pic is of the retail racquet (see the difference). The racquet is strictly a collector's item for me, so I will never use it on the court, I'm happy with my retail K6.1 tours :)

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  13. Jonnyf

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    Hey mate, Nice pics! I take it their's no way you could pap the frame on a scale and find out it's weight? :)

    Just thought I'd ask! :-D
     
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  14. ericsson

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    Fabfed, your one lucky guy and that stick is worth a lot! looks genuine to me, great pics ;)
     
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  15. RJYU

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    Yeah, that stick is the real deal. Definitely not last used in Madrid though. Nate usually strings for Roger in Madrid, and I can tell from the pics that I was the last person to string this particular frame. Glad to hear that you aren't going to hit with it. Keep it nice and safe on a wall somewhere in your home. The gut will end up breaking eventually. When that happens, feel free to contact us, and we'll be glad to restring it, if that is something you'd want.
     
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  16. saram

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    This is the real deal. Gut mains, lux crosses, power pads, black tape at the top of the overwrap etc. Also, the way the overgrip is wrapped is done JUST as Roger has it done for him.

    I'd say this is the first legit "Fedstick" posted here in a long time.

    And thanks for sharing!
     
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  17. NoBadMojo

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    Fabfed..thanks for taking the time to post the pictures. I bet the forum would at least like to know what the static weight and balance are, and if you have access to a RDC what the RA stiffness and swingweight is.

    Congrats on your acquisition..sweet!
     
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  18. Azzurri

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    Fab,
    would it be possible to take the racquet to a local tennis shop/club and ask them to perform some measurements (specs)? It would probably be free since they would get to test the specs on a genuuine article. Lost of people wonder if there are any differences between the retail and Roger stick. Also, do you see any lead anywhere?
     
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  19. Azzurri

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    would be able to verify any customizations done on the racquet?
     
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  20. Expired

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    His grip looks so much cleaner/neater than the other.. How does he wrap it different?
     
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  21. 10sdude85

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    Thanks

    thanks fabfed really appreciate it. his racquet does look a bit different from the stock version, not too much though. I just really wanted to see his strings and the power pads.
     
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  22. ronalditop

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    i wish to see more pics of the grip. i love how federer barely overlaps his OG, thing that i also do, cause it makes the grip feels much more clean and comfortable.
     
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  23. RJYU

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    We don't really discuss any specifics on how we customize any of our clients frames, nor do we release racquet specs of their frames.

    That being said, I can confirm that we do our usual customizing on Roger's frames that we do for all of our Gold or Silver Service clients. That includes molding a custom handle, wrapping the grips a specific way, and bringing the racquets to the proper specs.
     
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  24. saram

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    VERY little overlap as compared to a lot of players. Look at every image of his sticks and they are wrapped like that. Precision wrapping as opposed to just throwing the overgrip on there.

    Look at Fed's grip in the image and look at the one on the top (the way everyone else wraps a stick). You can see Roger's sticks/grips have much less ridges in his overgrip job.
     
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  25. ncode tour90

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    nice pics thanks
     
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  26. Expired

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    I thought you weren't aloud to have anything on the string bed other than a dampener below the bottom string?? It could be argued that those alter the flight of the ball.
     
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  27. Ross K

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    So does the OP intend NOT to hit with the frame at all?... I would have thought that the overwhelming desire to at least briefly hit with the rod Federer himself has played with would prove, rather in the manner of "the ring" in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, just too strong to ignore? It would also be v/interesting indeed for everyone to hear how RF's plays, feels, etc, in the OP's hands.
     
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  28. OTMPut

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    Interesting. The specs on the fed's frame says 12 pts HL, while the one on TW's shop says 9 pts HL. So the stock version is quite different?
     
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  29. EndLy

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    the one on TW's site is listed with strung specs.. the one on the racket is unstrung... that's why the specs are different..
     
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  30. Fabfed

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    Hey thanks for the information and advice, especially about the gut, will get in touch with you if I need to get it restrung eventually.
     
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  31. Fabfed

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    This isn't really gonna help but i tried the ball bounce and I can't really tell any difference in feel honestly, maybe its not an effective enough way of testing it, but I really just want to display it. The string spacing looks the same to me. Sorry I wasn't much help.
     
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  32. saram

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    Well, I guess it is official. Finally, confirmed by Roger's stringer that this is Roger's stick. Amazing. Years of finding an actual one here finally came to the surface.

    I think I would be installing a security system within my home if I were the OP...:)
     
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  33. Mansewerz

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    If he can get the specs, he would be a racquet god on this forum haha. Great find, congratulations!
     
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  34. zidane339

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    Yes, even specs just obtain using balance board and swingweight calculater on TW university would be great.

    OP , How did you get this stick if I may ask? If I had it, it would become my family heirloom!:)
     
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    sorry if i pissed you guys off, but maybe you can understand how it feels to buy racquets as a teenager thinking you were getting federer's racquet, then joining these forums, realizing it wasn't, and reading years of these agonizing "what is fed's racquet?" threads. although i'm pleasantly surprised that one finally turned up, its frustrating that someone on the boards has direct access to the racquet and could easily put an end to the endless debate.
     
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  36. kimbahpnam

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    If you really get pissed off because the racquet you bought isn't REALLY the same one your hero uses then you're easily disappointed. You should know better...

    Just have some patience and maybe fab can get around to a scale at least and weigh it.
     
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  37. purple-n-gold

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    Is it my eyes, the pics(different angle of the rackets) but doesn't Fed's stick have a more oval head shape like the KPS88? That's one thing i noticed when comparing the KPS88 and K90 was a "rounder" head on the 88.

    Mr. Fab, do you notice any difference with the 2 you have?
     
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  38. fanatic456

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    I understand where you are coming from...
     
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  39. PED

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    I think if you go to this link that was referenced earlier in the thread, I think you'll find that the N or K 90 isn't that different than what Fed is actually using other than the drill pattern for the strings.

    http://www.hdtennis.com/grs/federer_playtest.html
     
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  40. fanatic456

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    Ron, I understand you are gagged from talking about Feds specs so nobody should be asking you for any detailed answers about them.

    It would be interesting to know though, what are some of your most interesting racket customization requests? Maybe you can offer us hacks some advanced suggestions to help us improve our rackets and games.

    I'm not asking you to disclose any "trade secrets", though that would be nice...:)
     
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  41. samster

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    Here you go:

    http://www.hdtennis.com/grs/pro_racquet_specs.html

    "Here are some specifications of pro racquets I have had the opportunity to measure, compared against the specifications of the corresponding racquet of the same appearance that is (or was) available to the retail customer.

    Roger Federer's Wilson K Six.One Tour 90

    Racquet Mass Bal. cm Swgwt Length

    Federer's 362.5 31.5 338 27

    USRSA 356 31.85 331 27

    TW 354 31.43 336 27

    It would appear that the racquet Roger is using is virtually identical to the racquet that anyone can buy at retail, as I speculated previously (see below)."
     
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  42. OTMPut

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    Isn't the balance printed on racket for unstrung version? My AK90 says 9 pts HL. May be the US version says 12 pts.
     
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  43. samster

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    Correct:

    the US K90 says 12 pts unstrung, AK90 says 9 pts unstrung.
     
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  44. Fabfed

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    Fanatic456, I really don't know where you get off making those comments about me. Did I not respond specifically to you earlier in the thread? I also tried the ball bounce and responded on the string spacing as you had requested. I'm sorry if my feedback or lack of it did not meet your specifications, but I had also explained to you in my earlier response that I am not a technical guy where it comes to racquets. I am also not about to bring the racquet to a tennis shop for someone to handle it so that they can establish the specs. The racquet is a part of my collection and just that, and I would prefer not to do anything that might risk damaging it. I know a few people have asked for the weight of the racquet, I will do that once I get hold of a proper scale (you can't weigh it on a bathroom scale can you?) and report the weight back to everyone. I did not post the pictures for validation or adulation as you had accused me of, I posted the photos to share with everyone on the forum, which is what such forums are about. And as for your other accusation that I sucked value from you guys and gave nothing back, did I not share clear, close up photos of Roger's racquet with everyone? Did the photos not generate interesting responses and discussions on this thread? Weren't these contributions? Just because you did not get exactly what you wanted, the precise specs of the racquet, doesn't give you the right to make such accusations. You don't always get what you want in life, that's the way the cookie crumbles, deal with it!
     
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    Personally, I appreciate you uploading the pictures and showing us a truly great collection. The weight of the racquet is more than enough. I always believed the weight was very close to spec. Thanks Fabfed, for the effort!
     
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  46. saram

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    Fabfed--you don't even need to weigh the darn stick. I'm just glad to hear and see that someone actually owns one that is not named Roger. It's your stick and thanks for sharing. If fantatic456 wants to be a kid--let him be a kid.

    If I had that stick--it would be wrapped and sealed and given to my daughter when she turned 18. I wouldn't risk any damage to it to appease the needs of anyone on an internet forum.
     
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  47. ESP#1

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    Fabfed, congrats on the roger sticks, thanks or posting bro:)
     
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  48. BreakPoint

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    Ron,

    Since you mold custom handles on Federer's racquets, could you tell us why after molding the handles you guys put the older style black/red butt caps on them instead of the newer stock K90 glossy black butt caps? Is it because Federer specifically requests these or it is because these are just what you guys keep in inventory?

    Many people here have claimed that because Federer's K90's have the old butt caps on them that it's an indication that he's actually using an older frame or a custom frame with a paintjob. I've always told these people that the butt cap gives no such indication and that all it indicates is that his handles are probably custom molded and the kind of butt caps put on afterwards are either by Federer's request or by the customizer's choice or availability.

    Thanks.
     
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  49. RJYU

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    You are correct, the butt cap gives no such indication. The reason why we use that particular butt cap is because we have a lot of them lying around. Since Roger used them on his previous racquet, we just continue to place them on his current ones. We don't like to be wasteful! We'll eventually run out of them, and I'm sure we'll just switch to the current Black/Silver one. We have already switched over several of our clients, such as Mardy Fish, to the Black/Silver ones .
     
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    Good to know, thanks Ron.
     
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