What are some ways of making sure you do not fall sick?

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  1. SystemicAnomaly

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    Have you also stopped eating fruits because of the sugar content? While drinking OJ is not quite as good for you as eating the orange, I believe that the benefits of the vitamin C in the OJ is superior to that in the Centrum -- I do not believe that the Centrum contains bioflavanoids and other synergistic micronutrients that are probably in OJ.

    Note that the sugars in OJ are the naturally occurring fruit sugars found in the orange and not added processed sugars. Would think that added sugars from heavily processed foods would be more of a concern than the natural fruit sugars in OJ/oranges. Cannot believe that drinking a glass of OJ a day would be detrimental to your health.
     
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    If I get sick, I like eating something spicy. Hot-sour soup, Indian food. Something that gets me sweating.
     
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    Frankly, I don't take much fruits but I try to put a lemon into every drink. I started the no OJ thing only a month ago so let me see. But the magazine said 1 glass of juice daily increases risk of diabetes 18%. My wife's parents are diabetic so she for one has to be very careful and everyone on my side except my parents are diabetic. We take the Centrum 5 days a week. I know nothing like natural stuff but don't want the sugar.
     
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    Why not take a good multi instead? Ditch the centrum and get some Apex multis from your local health club.
     
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    Talk to a certified nutritionist, particularly one who is knowledgeable about type 1 and type 2 diabetes. I would not go by by what some magazine article says -- quite often these articles will grossly misinterpret or significantly distort (by over-simplifying) what the research really indicates. Even many medical doctors are not all that savvy about nutrition -- they are often only required to take a single (intro) class in human nutrition. This is why hospitals will usually have nutritionists on their staff.

    I believe that you are missing out on your nutritional needs if you are relying on Centrum and avoiding fruits. Fruits & vegetables have many important nutrients (such as flavanoids) that are not in your Centrum supplements. Quite often the minerals and vitamins in fruits are in a form that your body can use more readily that the form found in supplements such as Centrum. There are some full-spectrum supplements on the market (that are often more expensive) that would be more effective. However, your best bet would still be go get as much of your nutrients from good quality foods rather than substituting with supplements.

    It is not so much how much sugar is contained in a food as much as what type of impact that food has on blood sugar levels. This is particularly an important concern for those with diabetes.

    Note that foods such as (white) bread, potatoes, and rice can have a much greater impact on your blood sugar levels that fruits and even more than regular table sugar. It is best to eat these things in the context of a meal. Eating/drinking fruits & fruit juices can also be eaten right after a meal without blood sugar level consequences.

    Fruits, juices and the other foods mentioned above are probably best consumed with other foods that contain some fat, fiber &/or protein to temper the effect on blood sugar levels. Take a look at what the American Diabetes Association has to say about sugar consumption:

    Diabetes.org/nutrition-and-recipes/nutrition/sugar.jsp

    Bottom line is that you should really start to include more fruits in your diet.

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    SA, I agree and disagree with you. You're absolutely correct in that oj will not increase your odds of contracting type 2 diabetes by a significant margin. I disagree with you about the efficacy of fruit vitamins because studies have shown that the efficacy of a good multi vitamin is greater than that of vitamins in fruit. What does that mean? Yes, you get more absorbable vitamins from a tablet than from actual food. I don't know about a crap multi like centrum though.
     
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    Fruits and vegetables are are considered nutrient-dense food and, as such, should be included to ensure a healthy well-balanced diet -- a diet where nutritional needs are met without an excessive caloric intake (without added sugars).


    One major problem with this is that many, if not most, people buy their vitamins & minerals from places like GNC & from supermarkets. A majority of the products sold at these places do not come anywhere close to providing the nutritional quality that can be provided from fresh (or frozen) fruits & vegetables. The generalization I made in my previous post is particularly applicable to the bulk of supermarket supplements. The quality and bioavailability of nutrients from fruits, vegetables and fruit/vegetable juices far exceed that of these supplements.

    There are some exceptions of course. For instance, the iron found in raw spinach is not in a form that the human body can readily assimilate. However, the absorption of the iron in spinach can be significantly improved by eating it with an acidic food, such as tomatoes, or with a good source of vitamin C, calcium or certain other nutrients. It is possible, that food cooking methods can also improve the bioavailability of the non-heme iron found in spinach.

    A problem with many supplements in tablet form is that the binding agents used in many products can significantly hamper the absorption of the desired nutrients in the small intestine.

    While multivitamins may contain many nutrients, there are many important substances that are missing. These include flavanoids, such as Quercetin and various proanthocyanidins, coenzymes and other cofactors found in foods but not found in many supplements. I had mentioned previously, vitamin C is best taken in the presence of bioflavanoids (which can include nutrients such n quercetin, hesperidin and rutin). While found in oranges & OJ, most moderately-priced supplements do not contain these.

    Vitamin E is often found in supplements as dl-Alpha Tocopherol (while natural vitamin E is actually d-Alpha Tocopherol). In foods, however, vitamin E will be found with a rich mixture of various tocopherols and tocotrienols that are missing in most supplements.

    Many supplements contain vitamin A but not Beta-carotene. Many of those that do contain beta-carotene do not contain other important carotenoids -- such as Alpha-Carotene, Zeaxanthin, Cryptoxanthin, Lutein & Lycopene.

    This is just the tip of the iceberg of nutrients and nutrient co-factors that are missing from supplements. Besides the these "extras" that found in real foods that have been identified, there are undoubtedly many more that nutritionists have not yet been discovered -- or substances that have been identified but that we do not yet know how/why they are important (& thus do not yet appear in supplements).

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    1) exercise regularly and strenuously.

    2) eating healthy.

    3) minimise stay time in densly crowded
    areas.

    but most importantly

    3) stay away and avoid contact with sick
    people.
     
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    Andrographis (extract of plant Andrographis paniculata) -- very effective against many viral infections -- used in Ayurvedic medicine.

    A herbal product that works well and is inexpensive.
     
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    You should wash your hands about every 60 seconds.

    You're always touching something . . .
     
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    I take tons of supplements. Multivitamin, garlic, fish oil, aspirin, CoQ10, CholestOff, a herbal mix called Oregulin for blood sugar levels, an ayurvedic mix called Glucofit for blood sugar levels, Vitamin D, Ashwagandha for BP, iron every other day (multi does not have iron). I take them Mon-Fri and none on the weekend.
     
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    Get a flu shot
     
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    a giant bowl of hot oatmeal every morning has made me healthier than ever. multi V is good. enjoying various fruits and veggies is good. enjoying exhausting tennis as often as possible has been very good. try not to over eat and drink lots of water. enjoy good sex as often as possible and get good sleep.
     
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    Wash hands often, don't share food, don't french kiss anyone who sniffles, and vitamin C.
     
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    Bathe properly, attending to ALL areas of the body. Brush your teeth properly, attending to all the sides of all the teeth.
     
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