what do you think of aero skin on dunlop

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  1. markmdfw

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    To me its weird to just put some skin on a racket and say its there for a reason?

    Do we swing rackets fast enough to make a difference?

    Yonex also has aero box which also seems not needed.

    What do you think does wind resistance mater / do we swing that fast??
     
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  2. li0scc0

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    The Aero Skin looks very cool, and the new Dunlop racquets have possible the 'coolest' paintjob on the market.
    That said, lead tape does NOT stick to the Aeroskin! :)
    It does not matter in the least with respect to aerodynamics.
     
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  3. TheBoom

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    If you swing fast there is the slightest difference but overall there isn't much benefit but the looks rock! I have the 300 tour if you didn't notice and the red chrome and black(there are hints of black) make it look bad a**
     
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  4. CHOcobo

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    those small bumps on the rackets do physically reduces air resistant but i think no one and not even pros can swing fast enough to make a noticeable difference since there aren't much on the racket anyways. most of them are at the neck area and not near towards 12 O'clock.
     
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  5. TheBoom

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    Actually it mostly on the sides of the hoop :)
     
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    The aero skin. Kind of funny they couldn't come up with an original gimmicky technology. They had to steal babolat's. That's how pathetic it's become. A 16 year old kid could come up with better made up technology names and they went with the Aeroskin. The dimples do nothing to what they claim. It doesn't make your racquet go through the air faster just as the Aeropro Drive doesn't make the racquet go through the air faster because of its shape. It has mainly everything to do with the weight and the balance. The shape of the racquet is probably all the way at the bottom as far as racquet speed is concerned. And if anything, if they really wanted to make an aeropro drive cut through the air faster with its shape, they would start by tapering the head face beam and NOT the throat. The throat does nothing, it can be as thin as a razorblade and as long as the head face is as blunt as it is it will pretty much counter-act everything that's going on in the throat area. Just goes to show that all this technology stuff is bullsh*t.

    And if you're wondering the nano structures of a gecko's feet are completely different than anything they tried to put on the grip. The underside of a gecko's foot looks like thin ribs of flesh that fold and allow it to stick to the surface of what ever its on. The fact that they callled it a "Gecko Grip" shows that all they care about is the catchy name that will attract people more than actually having whatever material they claim to represent in the actual product.
     
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  7. CHOcobo

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    ^^ you sound like the other guy that always talk **** about dunlop once someone brings up the name. lol.
     
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  8. LeeD

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    Non dimpled golf balls do not fly very far.
    If you serve tops 130, I think it makes a difference.
     
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  10. markmdfw

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    Wow They need to tell us how fast we have to swing for a noticeable difference in the wind technologies, if i swung that fast I sure I would hit it out lol

    thanks for sharing everyone! I just was thinking, how far marketing has gotten us off of what is important. We don't need aerodynamics we need better footwork, strokes, larger sweetspots, and less fake technology. If you like the look, and I do, I like my thin sides on my yonex until I frame the racket and instead of having a flat box I have a wedge, so I shank it instead of put it back in play! Thanks
    Happy tennis high intelectual players lol
     
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  11. !<-_->!

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    I feel like the golf ball analogy is backwards and thus negates the effects of the "aeroskin" technology. If you look on golf balls, the dimples are indented inwards while the aeroskin is comprised of elevated bumps. In my mind, this would create more drag rather than reduce it as the smooth surface is raised. In an example done on Mythbusters that proves the dimple concept helps reduce drag, they molded a car with clay or something and scooped out semi-circles to emulate the surface of a golf ball. So since the frame doesn't have semi-circles evacuated from the surface of the frame, it seems counter-intuitive to have elevated bumps. This is all just my speculation so I'm not sure if the raised bumps could produce a similar effect.
     
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  12. NLBwell

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    The small bumps do reduce drag on aircraft (saving fuel) - they change the boundary layer characteristics, but I don't remember which way off the top of my head. However, though it can change the drag a few percent on an aircraft flying cross country, I don't think it would make a noticeable difference on a tennis racket. If you put the racket in a wind tunnel and measured the drag precisely you might see a difference. Don't know many tennis players who do that, though.
     
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  13. CHOcobo

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    If the sharkskin changes the sound of swinging appreciably compared to other racquets, most people will probably assume the racquet's moving faster. For Dunlop that means mission accomplished.
     
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    And Babolat stole the Aero design shaft from Kneissl. That's right Kneissl had that feature on the White Star Aero line of racquets in 1985.
    http://80s-tennis.com/pages/white-star-aero.html
     
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  16. 000KFACTOR90000

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    They look great and feel like quality coatings anyway. The tech claims are not a big issue for me anyway.
     
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  17. mxmx

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    For this technology to work....one would need a racket the size of a boeing with a paintjob with the exact same proportions it has now, and not larger dimples. The scale they are implying that it reduces friction (25% more speed), is a joke and basically false advertising.

    Secondly...sharks swim, and don't fly, which makes the persentages even more ridiculous.
     
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  18. tom4ny

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    i love how fast my bio 300T's swing through the air and i have lead tape (that sticks fine) running along the entire top hoop of the frame. maybe the aero skin helps or not but what matters is what the racket does.

    every company needs to market their products but advertising is misleading if a product does not perform. in this case i have a fast swinging racket and who cares if it is the aeroskin or not? .... i don't
     
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  19. tom4ny

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    this is true! i played with the white star aero mid. kneissl also had a red star aero line and i had one of them too.

    the 2010/11 versions of the white star and red star are great frames too. kneissl has always made quality frames.
     
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  20. Hi I'm Ray

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    The dimples or bumps reduce air drag - ok, that's believable. But it only covers a fraction of the rackets' surface, and only where it looks nice along the painted swirls/stripes/design. If the aeroskin covered more of the surface or looked more strategically placed, it might be believable. But as it is now, it seems like pure marketing BS.
     
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  21. PrinceMoron

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    At least it doesn't affect your game if you switch to another frame. Prince O holes seem to increase swing speed, but then a box frame feels heavy if you switch.
     
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  22. robbo1970

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    I'm sure the aero skin does make it move through the air quicker, or it would be a false claim. That said, whether anyone can swing it fast enough to tell the difference is another matter.

    However, they are quality looking rackets with lovely pj's and I am going to get a black and red one!!
     
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  23. rev200g

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    I have 2 4D 300 Tours and 1 Biomimetic 300 Tour. The molds for both frames are identical. They all are within 1 gram of each other static weight wise with similar flex ratings and yet the Bio 300T swings much easier than the 4D 300Ts. Go figure!?
     
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  24. pshulam

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    The swing weight is slightly different:
    AG 4D 300 Tour = 318
    Bio 300 Tour = 304
     
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