what does Fed need to change to win FO

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  1. TheNatural

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    What does he need to change?
     
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  2. Fries-N-Gravy

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    that backhand needs to be more western.

    maybe use a sledgehammer 2.0
     
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  3. Simon Cowell

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    his name to Nadal
     
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  4. Nadal_Freak

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    Slower conditions but than he won't get as many free points from his serve.
     
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  5. BigServer1

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    Fed needs Nadal to be injured or to get knocked out early. With the way Nadal plays at RG, he's unbeatable. I hope that Fed can win one before he retires, but if he continually faces Nadal in the finals, it looks bleak.
     
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  6. Grimjack

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    Nothing.

    He absolutely dominates the tennis year, winning 3 out of four slams year-in/year-out...a thought that would have been considered absurd five years ago, even for other GOAT candidates through history.

    To change anything, even one teensy bit, in an attempt to win the "specialist's slam", would be insane. You don't #### with a legendarily good thing.
     
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  7. ttwarrior1

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    uh how come noone has posted he needs to move back about a foot, even more maybe, or am i only one to notice he is 2 inches behind the baseline
     
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  8. psamp14

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    federer needs to change his game to adapt more....fix that serve...remember that article pat cash wrote a while back? well i thought of that article almost the entire match...federer lost today primarily because of his serve, and then his forehand

    nadal is unbeatable on clay, and i have utmost respect for him, but this year's french open was for federer to take, and he didnt step up for it...
     
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  9. fednad

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    Follow your advised strategy and change your name - you are already the French Open 2008 champion.
     
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  10. welcome2petrkordaland

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    "nothing?" this is one of the first obtuse posts by Grimjack. how 'bout more droppers, more slice, occasional serve volley, occasional deep topspin moonball, better 1st serve %, a pair of nuts and better execution on big points, etc. btw, did you see the nutsack hanging from the bull on the Spanish flag?

    "absolutely dominates the tennis year," huh? he's taken 1 of the last 6 titles this year. at nadal's age, roger was still popping zits whereas nadal's picking up 3 slams and a grip of TMS's.

    and on the French Open being "a specialist's slam:" what the #$% is Wimbledon, then?

    it's okay Grimjack, clay court season's over.
     
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  11. omniexist

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    Maybe come to the net more and a few more droppers.

    Fed did it but it seems when he got burned he backed off.
     
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  12. johnny ballgame

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    To not choke on break point. 1 for 17. Countless framers. At least get the return back, my goodness.
     
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  13. OrangeOne

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    Yup. 1 for 17 will haunt him for some time. There is no way he deserved to win that match, which is sad to say.

    Also: Where was his forehand? seemed like, for chunks of time, he was just thumping them into the tape.

    Mental game, and super-reliable forehand. If he improved, oh, 20% in those areas last night, he could have had Nadal 2 sets to love down, and then who knows what would have happened.
     
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  14. tnkGod4tns

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    maybe he needs to get the same underwear that nadal has, i think that's where he gets his energy from picking his butt and sniffing it before he serves.
     
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  15. tlm

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    Fed has tried everything, he is not good enough to beat nadal at the french.Are you guys starting to understand that? Or does rafa have to beat him another 3 times in a row?
     
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  16. Fedace

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    Make a deal with Rafa like i stated already.
     
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  17. rod99

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    i posted this on another thread:

    - use the slice backhand more on high backhands. also use the slice to draw nadal into the net and the occassional drop shot when nadal is way out of position.
    - on groundstroke rallies, federer should either hit hard/penetrating into the nadal forehand or hit crosscourt angle shots to the nadal backhand (davydenko had success with this in hamburg).

    the key is to not allow nadal to control the point with his forehand. if you hit deep/hard to his forehand then it doesn't allow him to hit an offensive shot (relatively) and it also allows federer to hit deep into the backhand on the next shot. also, if you hit short angles to the backhand then it opens up the court for the 2nd shot as well as it allows you to hit behind nadal when he is running to his forehand.
     
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  18. peluzon

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    60 unforced errors ???:confused: :confused:


    He needs a new brain , and change the Nadal face for Gonzalez face or Davidenko ,,,,,Federer is afraid to play versus Nadal on clay , as the same way that a lot of tennis player are afraid to play versus Federer,,,,, thats why this tennis generation is so bored.

    For me this was the worst Roland Garros ever
     
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  19. TheNatural

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    I don't think that'sany hope, but..

    He did make a deal, him and Nadal shared 1 milllion Euros for their batle of the surfaces exhibition match. So Fed should look on the bright side, these big $ exhibitions are more appealing if Nadal is winning the French.

    Mabe Nadal can lease him his Roland Garros trophy for a few months, so he can hold it and put it next to his other tropheys for a while.

     
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  20. TheNatural

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    I think Fed needs to practice with much better players when preparing to play Nadal. Practicing with a lefty junior on clay and telling him to hit like Nadal is a far cry from facing the King of Clay. He must've been hitting winners all over the place versus the junior, and mabe thought his baseline game was indestructable. He got a rude shock when Nadal's big spinning shots started firing at him relentlessly. He admitted how awkward Nadals shots made him feel, no doubt he was'nt prepared for it adequately by practicing with a junior.


    Thats my tip of the day for Federer
     
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  21. Fedexeon

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    I think he just got tired in the 3rd and 4th set. Get fitter and he may win Roland Garros next year.
     
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  22. bandit25

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    Federer shouldn't let Nadal dictate the action and Federer should shorten the points. Federer was most successful when he either moved in and took Nadal's ball early or he approached the net. Federer also let Nadal continually break down his backhand, and Federer's forehand went down with it. Another thing that Federer had no control of yesterday was his lackluster serving. I don't understand why Federer is trying to play baseline rallies against Nadal when that is what Nadal's whole game is built upon.
     
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