What exactly makes Djokovic so good/special? Well, when he was so good.

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  1. jodd

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    I like Djokovic a lot, so this definitely isn't a thread set up with the intention of bashing.

    But...

    Compared to the rest of the top 4, there's very little that's unique about his game. Uniqueness doesn't necessarily mean success on the tour, I guess I just more clearly see what the other 3 have that allows them to do so well on the circuit. So does Djokovic just do the power-baseline thing (that most of the tour does) super-well? He's not as defensive as Nadal/Murray, but he's not as offensively minded as Fed, either. Is he just generally more consistent than the rest of the tour? I guess like the other 3, he's achieved a balance between attacking and defending, and a sense for when to transition between the two, which is probably a result of his solid movement...

    Does he mix spins(something I wouldn't perceive)? Is it his down-the-line shots? His serve (especially now) isn't the best, but it was really solid... Maybe he's just a very well-rounded version of the typical modern baseliner...He doesn't go all out/attack from the first stroke, but he also doesn't let his opponents have free rein...
     
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    He is the best at changing direction.

    He did this the best at ao 2008
     
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    I would argue that it's his lack of 'uniqueness' that makes him so good. Instead of having one or two monster shots, he's quick and has a great all-around game. He can adjust well to different situations and surprise his opponents with his variety.

    "he's achieved a balance between attacking and defending, and a sense for when to transition between the two, which is probably a result of his solid movement..."

    ^

    You're basically saying the same thing I am: speed + all-court game.
     
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    His ability to go down the line from almost anywhere on the court was really a big factor for his success. Changing the direction of the ball almost at will.
     
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  5. Li Ching Yuen

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    Here you are wrong.

    When he is on he can turn defense into attack like no one else on tour. Some of his forehands are the most vicious shots I have ever seen in tennis, and that is true for his backhand side too. He can be as dominant as Federer when he goes offensive.

    Basically, every single aspect of the baseline game, he's a master at it, he had a consistently good serve too, which helped him a lot.
     
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    He's probably the most complete player on tour other than Federer. His only problem is motivation and fitness. He needs his old serve back ASAP.

    1) He covers the court well. He's got very good movement.
    2) He has got a great DH BH, whether it's DTL or CC
    3) He takes chances on big points. Especially in 2007/2008
    4) He has got power. A lot of ignorant people seem to disagree but he can hit 100mph + forehands and backhands all day long.
    5)He's got great feel at the net.


    I'm not a fan but there is no reason that with his game and talent he isn't a multipule slam champion right now. He's certainly capeable of beating anyone. I expect him to do well though in later years. He owns JMDP and Murray doesn't have the weapons to make slam finals consistently like Djokovic can if he wakes up.
     
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    His all-around game is very good when he's playing well. He doesn't have any real weaknesses during such moments. This alone can help a player win a lot of tournaments (assuming he doesn't have problems on the mental side).
     
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    Djoker was consistent, could hit very heavy shots off both wings, had a decent first serve, had a very good and clutch second serve, excellent footwork, and above average net skills.

    While a lot of players had weaker backhands, Djoker had a rock solid and powerful backhand that he can use to really dictate play even when under pressure. And it's not like his opponents could really attack his forehand, as it was a cannon.

    In his 2008 AO run, he used the skills mentioned above to take time away from his opponents and thus consistently pressure his opponents into forced errors.
     
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    How can you be the most dominant player in a tournament and not win it?
     
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    And your boy Roddick Is? :lol:
     
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    Godmode Federer in the final?
     
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    First of all, Anaconda started talking about Murray, not me.

    And I'm not a Murray fan, not even close to that. I think I've used every opportunity that I had on this forum to call him a pusher etc...
     
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    But you just can't be the most dominant and the second best at the same time!
     
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    You don't understand.

    Each finalist has to win 6 matches to reach the final, right?...

    Well, let's put it this way, for me Murray's performance in those 6 matches and the way he won his matches was way more impressive than Federer's and not even Fed's straight-set victory in the final could change my opinion of the whole tournament. (mostly because I think Federer owns Murray despite their h2h, so I was kind of expecting it to happen)
     
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  31. Anaconda

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    Way to troll about clown. Safin. I repeat Safin is still my favourite player.



    Out of the active players Hewitt, Ferrer, Roddick, Nalbandian are my favourites to watch.


    Please, continue to troll and pick fights at random.
     
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    Hmm, you said Hewitt was your favorite player not long ago. You don't like sticking with the same player it seems do you? Troll? I'm just pointing the irony in within your posts. Oh, and the severe fanboyism!
     
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  34. Anaconda

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    When did i say Hewitt was my favourite player? I didn't.

    You talk but you can't prove any of that because you're full of trash. Pfft. Dirty troll.
     
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    You seem to forget quickly, don't you?

    Oh dear, more hypocrisy from Mr. fanboy...
     
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    At one point he had the best serve out of the top 10 players, returns are one of the best, ground game one of the best.

    What is failing him is all mental.

    Oh and he should not have changed rackets and to those crapy string combination that is not made for a closed string pattern.
     
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    He never changed racquets as far as i know. Using the same mold he had with Wilson.
     
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    Then dig up a post where i said Hewitt was my 'all time favourite' then. Nice one.
     
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    let's see here, flex is different, swing weight is different, static weight is different, balance is different, ...

    Futhermore, consider this. If I used a liquid metal presitge one day and then a youtek pristige the next day, did I swith rackets or is it the same racket?
     
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    Alright alright... I agree that Murray surprised me a lot more. And I think you're completely entitled to having your opinion :) I just wouldn't say that Murray dominated...
     
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    I didn't say that. LCY did. It was i mix up. I agree with you

    Sorry didn't realize it was a mix up.
     
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    Sorry to all about quoting the wrong people.
     
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    I thought you had to be on a line to go "down" the line.
     
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    Djokovic's net game is horrid. I have no idea what you are trying to say at #5.

    #4 - No one can hit 100mph+ forehands all day long.

    #1 - His weakness all along has been his fitness and thus his movement cannot be said to be great.
     
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    Djokovic is a great player, he just seems to lack motivation at times. Who knows what's going on in any of their lives? There's a lot of life to be played after a tennis match is over. I hope he gets back and does well.
     
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