What Frames Should Prince Bring Back?

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  1. themitchmann

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    Hey guys. Since some threads are coming up regarding the direction Prince should move it, I thought it would be fun to discuss what models Prince should produce going forward. Here's my take:

    I would like to see the EXO3 Rebel 95, and the Tour 100 series continue into the future.

    In terms of bringing back some oldies-but-goodies, I would like to see a new Warrior/Response, something from the CTS line, as well as some thinner beam models (Diable, Spectrum Comp, Original Graphite, etc).
     
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  2. Fuji

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    POG Longbody, no questions. That frame was sweet!

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  3. vsbabolat

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    Prince Precision Graphite 95.
     
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    From the older:
    TT Rebel
    POG OS
    Precision Retro Long - Don't know why but this reminded me of the Graphite Longbody but was simply better - more plowthrough, better stability and more power.

    From the not so old:
    O3 Tours
    the current Rebel 98
    EXO3 Tour 100
     
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  5. Alex78

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    I'd love to see any combination of CTS and DB technology back.
     
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    Pog Os
    Pg Ii Os
     
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  7. themitchmann

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    Me too. I grew up playing with those frames.
     
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    Prince Comp....please!
     
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    +1 and CTS Response
     
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    I wanna see a REBEL TOUR, probably the new 14x15 string pattern or w/e with traditional grommets. A Rebel OG, Dense pattern with exo ports.

    I really hope they keep the Prince Racket Tuning system. Whether it was financially viable or not, it made a nice difference in their sticks and let customers really cater to the feel of their string beds.

    They should also make a list of which grommets from which rackets fit one another.

    I want to see the Bandit line come back as well.
     
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    Mono!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  13. vetinari

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    CTS approach or CTS lightning OS. Played with the lightning in high school and loved it.
     
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    Actually, this is something I'd love to see all "traditional" racket companies (still in the market) do: Bring back the most successful classic rackets from the late 80ies / early 90ies. For all I care, do it as limited re-issues, and charge a premium - but it would be so cool to be able to buy the classics. I know that some of these treasures are still being produced (POG, Wilson Pro Staff 6.0 85 etc.), but why don't racket manufacturers introduce their own regular "legacy" line-ups? My guess is that a lot of people who grew up using these rackets would really like to get their hands on them again...
     
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  15. Alex78

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    Oh, and another thing that I'd like to see:
    Companies such as Head, Wilson, or Prince could offer customers a little insight into the history of their rackets. I mean, what sets traditional racket manufacturers apart from newer ones is the rich history of rackets, and that in itself is testament to a long and successful company history. It can't be difficult for the companies to provide all the information somewhere on their home pages, can it?
     
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  16. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Prince Precision Response Ti.
     
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    But the great POG is still available, why so many people crying for it?

    I'd like to see a Spectrum Comp in a 10-20g lighter version.
    Maybe Precision Longbody 770, too?
     
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    The original purple Prince Response.

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    And the Prince Graduate 90:
    Tough one to find a picture. Basically a thinner more flexible CTS Approach.
     
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    That is my usual hitting partner's stick, although he prefers my Diablo. He is too cheap to buy a racquet he likes better.

    A lot of the old ones I like they would have a hard time marketing. Series 90 Graphite Pro and 110 would be nice.
     
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  20. GS

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    I agree with bringing back the Prince Graphite Longbody. A POG with a 100 sq in head? Talk about a holy grail....
    It's so nice, that I just bought a 7th one from that big auction site, because I'm afraid that these things will forever be collectors items.
     
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    Was the CTS Response the purple one?
     
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    A 95 sq. in. Tour Diablo with a 16x18 pattern, that would be my holy grail :)
     
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    the CTS Synergy db 26, with the o-ports!
     
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    My favorite classic stick I still use today. Would be interesting to see what O3 would be like on it. Love the heft and flex of that stick, feels so good when you make perfect contact on the strings.
     
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  26. themitchmann

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    As a result of this thread, I've strung up an old Spectrum Comp 110, and plan on stringing up my first full size racquet: CTS Synergy DB 24 MP.
     
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  27. Cesare

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    it's a great frame, i love the feel and the plow, i would like to see a new version a little bit lighter( 11,2 unstrung), same flex, and a slighltly heavier head balance.
     
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  28. NLBwell

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    Line Up:
    POG Mid
    POG 100
    POG 100 extended (there were various versions of these like the Changs)
    POG OS

    Response or Response Ti
    Warrior (lighter)

    Couple of Thunder or Rip -type rackets for the light power-racket crowd. I always thought the Thunderstick was cool.

    Personally, I'd love to see the Graduate or Approach, but I'm not sure they'd sell to the larger market.
     
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  29. Don't Let It Bounce

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    I'd like to see the Prince Graphite OS with a denser stringing pattern... which I guess means I'd like to see the Prince Precision Graphite OS. Slightly lower stiffness would be nice, too.

    With so many elbow problems and the current market trends toward stiff and light, they could maybe sell a few re-introduced Vortexes – and with modern engineering, they might not have to make them so thick-beamed – but they probably cost too much to make, and they feel too different from other rackets for them to get enough sales.
     
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    honestly, the OC-1 cushion shoes. they were teh best!
     
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  31. pshulam

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    spectrum comp -- solid but not stiff
     
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    Funny, I was going to say these would be the best to bring back or CTS Lightning. Good all around rackets. Could be a good fit for a beginner/intermediate as well a tournament level players. Prince needs a racket with Pure Drive-like appeal.

    POG is a dinosaur, and if not for nostalgia, I would argue it has no place in the lineup. I love that racket and played with it for over a decade in my junior years. Still have a couple. It's a great feeling to hit with it when I get nostalgic, but no way I'd carry it into battle these days. There are other rackets in Prince's history that would probably be better to keep around or bring back for those who want a players' stick (Diablo, Exo3 Tour, NXG graphite, rebel).
     
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    I would love it if they brought the Precision Graphite 640 in the 95 sq inch head size. Played with it when I was younger. Great control with just the right amount of power when I needed it.
     
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  34. PBODY99

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    O3 tour 27.5" European Spec. The original THUNDERSTICK 90,Tour Diablo
     
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    Prince had a number of PD-like racquets. I played with few:
    Graphite Pro Classic series (widebody)
    Synergy Tour Ultra Light
    Tubo Shark MP
    O3 Hybrid Shark MP

    Get the leather grip off your POG 4-stripe, or Tour, replace with 2 overgrips only. Now, you've got a ~335g, ~5 HL modern spec racquet with a classic solid feel. Enjoy!
     
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  38. themitchmann

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    I'm starting to think maybe some more longbodies...

    Precision 720/770?
     
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  39. Automatix

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    I'm biased here because I use extended racquets. A +0.5 inch is a minimum for me.

    As I wrote in my other post in this thread I preferred the Precision Retro to PG LB.
     
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  40. Fuji

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    Sort of an odd question, but did they ever make a POG OS in a XL length?

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  41. jonestim

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    They made a Prince Michael Chang Longbody Graphite OS, a Michael Chang Titanium Longbody Oversize, and possibly others. Both 28 inches with big swingweights. I have seen 346 for the Graphite and 360 for the Titanium
     
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    Mitchman...so how did the Spectrum Comp 110 play? I actually think the Comp and Specturm Comp would still play quite well even by todays racquet standards. Also, to me it seems racquets were better made then, they just hold up better than todays sticks.
     
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  43. Automatix

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    For the public? I don't think so.

    I think Fuji is asking specifically about Prince Original Graphite, not other OS versions. Because there were extended OS in the NXG and TT line... I think.
     
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  44. themitchmann

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    Well, it's a beast. 12.5 ounces strung. The power comes from the mass (which I like). It's a little tough on the arm due to the balance, but the feel is really nice.
     
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    If I was Prince or any tennis racquet company, I would look at statistics and identify which frames were the best sellers over year and identify why. I'm around 4.0 level player and want following specs:
    head size: 95-98 sq. inches
    weight: 11.5 oz. - 11.9 oz.
    balance: 2-7 head light
    feel: can not be stiff and I should be able to string with Poly's without getting any arm/elbow/shoulder problems.
    I am currently playing with Yonex RDIS 100MP and have purchased Wilson BLX 98 18x20 2013 and feel the Wilson is at times gets pushed around and a bit stiffer than I would like.
     
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