what happened with the estoril final?

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  1. bluescreen

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    i dont wanna spoil the match for anybody, but for those of u that have been watching the live scores does anybody know what happened? i didnt expect such an abrupt finish to what seemed like a great final.
     
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  3. rtyd1

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    Davydenko retired cus of a wrist injury supposedly
     
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  4. bluescreen

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    wow, that came out of nowhere. i dont remember hearing any mention of a wrist injury in his earlier matches.
     
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  5. sharpblade

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    Davydenko retired because of a leg injury
     
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    I guess he will withdraw from Monte Carlo since he should play in a couple of days...
     
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  7. bluescreen

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    u never know with davydenko. my guess is he'll be in monte carlo ready to play.
     
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  8. TheTruth

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    Davydenko is a joke!
     
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    The joke who beat Nadal in Miami final last week! Seriously why can't you people be more compassionate:confused: the man was injured! What if it was you?
     
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    it was really windy out there.Neither Roger or Nikolya played great.
    We had more errors then winners;even for a clay court match.
    Davydenko had set points but Roger hit an ace and then Kolya went for a forehand that landed at the bottom of the net.
    Kolya was down 1-5 in the tb and battled back to tie it at 5 all but Roger played good to finish the set off.
    Kolya called for the trainer at the end of the 1st set.

    Roger served like chit and Kolya broke him and held his own serve.Roger then held his serve but Kolya called for a trainer again and after that said no mas!
    Was it the best final?Not even close but considering the wind throwing the clay in their faces;it could have been uglier.
    as for Kolya;I wish him a speedy recovery;he was complaining of a bad wrist all week but it's the leg now
    Roger a win is a win but you can do better.
     
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  11. sillymonkey

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    so, has ND pulled out of MC?
     
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    Davy was betting that Roger would beat him in 75 minutes. So he had to withdraw at 80 min.
     
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    LOL, ledor.
     
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    Hmmmm....sure sounds familiar.

    The ITF and ATP must be investigating all the betting patterns on this match.
     
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    This could have been a classic match. What a waste. Curse Davydenko's brittle Siberian ligaments.
     
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    Here's what he said accdg to Eurosport.

    "I'm sorry about what happened today," the 2003 champion Davydenko told a packed stadium in centre court at the Estoril Open. "You know, I have some leg injury and I can't finish the match.

    "SORRY GUYS."

    Sorry guys????????

    Oh, please Nikolai. This takes the cake for feeble apologies to fans who payed a huge amount of money to see a set of tennis. Next time they're all going to stay home and watch the final on TV. And why I only go to the first 4 days of a tournament.
     
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  18. Lionheart

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    A set of tennis?
    Everyone could have seen the Doubles Final and the Women´s Final, two good matches, those who only went to see the mens final are dumb, plain and simple.
     
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    These tickets are booked months ahead & it's NOT the fault of the fans and most poeple can only afford to see ONE final and men's doubles is just tagged a long with the men's final. Women play the day before. Put the blame where it belongs, not on fans.

    PS I don't think you have ever been to a tennis tournament judging from your comments.
     
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    He is a teenager but he surely has been to this one. He posted a ton of pictures in the Estoril Pic Thread. Btw for the sake of argument, Lionheart how much were the tickets ?
     
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    actually I´ve been to Estoril every day two years running and 2 days in 2005/2006.

    It´s not the fans fault, I agree with you, but if you want to maximize what you spend on a ticket that isn´t cheap you should see every match and believe me I´m sick of seeing people buying a 60 euros ticket and only watch a single match! that´s one third of what my weekly ticket costs.

    And the Women´s final was on the same day as the men´s, it´s like this every year.

    edit: the weekly ticket costs 150 euros, it has a discount for every day, my ticket for today would cost something like 60 euros if I hadn´t bought with the discount.

    60 euros for a 1 match is too much when you can watch 2 more matches and that´s my point, 80 % of those who went to see the men´s final didn´t even watch the other matches because they simply couldn´t care for more tennis....dumb if you ask me

    edit 2: you guys should see the centre court on the women´s final, half empty, but hey, those who went to watch the men´s could have watched the women´s too, and the doubles, which wasn´t full as well and it was a great match. I go there as a tennis fan to watch tennis, and I did all week, couldn´t care less for people who don´t know how to choose when and how they could watch good tennis. Davydenko has all the right to forfeit, why should he risk his health if he doesn´t feel alright? Remember that tennis is their job not an hobbie, they can´t risk a serious injury on a small tournament.
     
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  22. Nadal_Freak

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    Davydenko retired because he was tired. Simple as that. He wanted to save it for Monte Carlo.
     
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    Cause I don't believe it. Do you mind?
     
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    Don't let deme08 get under your skin. He is a classic troll. Kinda like ninman.
     
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  25. stormholloway

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    No, you're the troll. Davydenko got hurt. What evidence do you have that he faked it? None.

    He's not going to quite in the middle of a final because he's tired. I don't see why you people attack him. Too bad for the fans, but this guy has a career. Injuries can be a big deal. Would you rather he played the match and hurt himself seriously? Perhaps so.
     
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    He was looking out for himself. Monte Carlo is way higher on the priority list than Estoril as he would have to win it in 3 exhausting sets. Yes I can see why he lied. He will be just fine in Monte Carlo. Wait and see.
     
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  27. TheTruth

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    Deme08 or ninman, or anyone else doesn't get under my skin. I see this as a public board where everyone can spout their opinions. Nothing more, nothing less. If there are things I agree with anyone about I will say so. I do not hold posting battles with other posters about their opinion, so they're all alright with me!
     
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    It seems any version of explanation here is correct and better, except the one given by Davydenko.
     
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    I do have to wonder though. If the injury was more than minor, then how can he possibly go right over to monte carlo and play. and if the injury is just a minor one, then why can't he just finish out the match, knowing this is the Final and many people are watching ?? This is just very strange behavior from a player that has been playing in the Tour for many years. I would understand this if it was 1st or 2nd round but in the Finals ?? :twisted:
     
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    I generally don't distrust a player's words unless there is a clear reason to do so. Considering the injury timeouts that Davydenko took previously and the fact that he was up a break in the second set before retiring leads me to believe that he was having problems.
    And if it is a leg problem like a pulled hamstring, it would be impossible for him to continue playing at a decent level. Also, its definitely not unheard of to get over a pulled muscle in a day or two so him not pulling out of Monte Carlo is not indicative of the severity of his injury.
    It seems to me that a lot of people are displeased with Davydenko retiring because of who won the match as a result. Giving well supported opinions on a public board is fine, but making claims without any backing is slander. I hope some posters here can realize that.
     
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    Ukrainian. Siberians are tough.
     
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    Well I don't know if it was major or minor. He could have decided not to turn a minor problem into a major problem by continuing play considering he has bigger tournaments to play soon. But was he faking? Surely not.
     
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    Not really. I was betting on the match in-running, no funny amounts of money came in at any point in time, neither were there funny (against the flow of the match) odds movements. Looked very normal, run of the mill.

    In essence "they" didn't know it was going to happen.

    PS: I have been burned before on these retirements, most notably on the match that lead to the investigation, so I'm quite familiar with what "looks wrong". :)
     
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    Federer & Davydenko are colluding to accelerate the downfall of Nadal on clay this season! :)
     
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  35. coloskier

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    I guess the russian mob stood to make more money this week if Davydenko retired. Of course, if a player retires all bets are cancelled. What is it with these European players retiring in the middle of a match, or not playing an important match and instead playing a dead rubber? Nadal is the one european that has some stones. He plays even if he is injured.

    No comment about Roddick and Blake avoiding the european clay circuit. They are just as bad.
     
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  36. coloskier

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    It wouldn't have mattered. Once Davy retired, all bets are cancelled, aren't they? If not, they should be. That would solve a lot of the problem.
     
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    Davydenko looks recovered from his leg injury or whatever it was.
     
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