What is a "stylish" player?

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  1. tandayu

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    Is it those who has elegant & fluid movement, nice to watch, or...?

    Nastase, Adrianno Panatta, Evonen Gollagong, Hana Mandlikova, Jose Higueras are among those mentioned in the articles I read in the past. Any others?

    Any active "stylish" player(s) in the tour?
     
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    this one swiss guy is very smooth. also some russian
     
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    this one swiss guy is very smooth. also some russian
     
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  4. fedex27

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    sorry triple post
     
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    Arazi. .
     
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    I agree re Arazi.

    And I think the good 'ole junk baller Fabrice Santoro himself is stylish.

    You cannot play the way he doees and not have style.

    Otherwise, you wouldn't be ranked on the ATP. :D
     
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  7. Vlad

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    I know who is NOT stylish...... Andy Roddick. He has as much style as Fabrice has power.
     
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  8. spinbalz

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    Present :Schuettler, Ginepri, Gambill, Roddick, Mayer, Karlovic, Koubek, Haehnel, Lisnard...

    Past : Brad Gilbert, Ion Tiriac, Kent Carlsson, Muster, Derek Rostagno, Thierry Tulasne, Thierry Champion, Meligeni, Fromber, Kulti, Chesnokov, Jim Courier

    Am I serious?
     
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  9. Deuce

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    Mecir had a certain stylish elegance to his game. Kucera is most like him today.
     
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  10. AndrewD

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    I would equate stylishness with gracefulness. Some players just move around the court and execute their strokes with an ease that makes it all look effortless and as if they are expending as little energy as humanly possible.

    Mecir was definately in that bracket, beautiful to watch especially on the backhand side. Bill Scanlon (when his game was on) was a bit like that too. In the past, people always mention Maria Bueno.

    Oh and Ramesh Krishnan. He's often forgotten but had the most beautiful, effortless game -as Wilander found at the 89 Aus Open.
     
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    You guys forgot Gabriela Sabatini.
     
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  12. tandayu

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    What is a "Stylish" player

    Wojtec Fibak of Poland
     
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  13. AndrewD

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    Doh! There's always one you forget and if you can overlook that serve of hers Sabatini was lovely to watch, especially off the backhand.

    I think Jana Novotna had a certain flair about her play as well as Henri Leconte and someone I missed in the last post, Cedric Pioline had a beautiful game to watch, very free flowing and graceful.

    Interesting that most of the stylish players have a more graceful backhand than forehand.
     
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    Nowadays, Federer is the most stylish player...every shot he hits looks so simple, with no frills, perfect, smooth! He has style, efficiency and effectiveness. Wow!
     
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    Stylishness as opposed to raw power or being a backboard.
    Fed, Hingis, Mecir were all stylish players.

    Agassi, Hewitt, Safin, Roddick, Nalbandian, Ferrero are not.
     
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    Henman or Henin.
     
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    Sampras, Rios, Fed, Kuerten
     
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    Fed - above all, Arazi, Philipussis, Stepanek, Henman, on women side - Hennin. The rest of them pretty much look like they force their strokes.
     
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  19. Kirko

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    yes Andrew Krishnan saw him play McEnroe Davis cup 1981 in CA. he was like his dad a stylish guy. Panatta , Nastase and LeConte come to mind also.
     
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  20. Aykhan Mammadov

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    Boys, are you crazy?

    Which kind of stylishness did you find in the game of Roddick, Hewitt, Nalbandiyan or Ferrero ?

    Roddick can't do anything apart of great service, his backhand is absent, his movement is not fast. Ferrero's movement is also bad. Only powerful strokes. More power - better, this is their phylosofy of tennis, lack of intelligence in their game. Nalbandiyan -robot, Hewitt has a little better understanding of tennis, but again nothing graceful in his game.

    Schuettler, Ginepri, Gambill, Roddick, Mayer, Karlovic, Koubek, Haehnel, Lisnard ...

    O-oooo ! Such a stupid row of ungifted tennis players !!! Which kind os stylishness did you find in their game?

    Graceful is Federer's tennis, of the God of tennis. Santoro has graceful tennis. Kuerten has stylish tennis. Coria has excellent tennis, Moya has graceful tennis.

    Sometimes I'm becoming very sad when see people wrtiting very tastless things about tennis.
     
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  21. RealityPolice

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    Most of the top French players were quite stylish, Leconte especially so.

    Krishnan was indeed very stylish. Arazi and el-Aynaoui as well. Mecir. Petr Korda was rather flashy. Judith Weisner had a pretty game.

    Obviously Federer is the current style king. Among the women, the one that sticks out most is Hantuchova-- very graceful and elegant, if slow-footed.
     
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  22. TheNatural

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    Players with flair seem to control the racket face as if it was their hand. I agree- Leconta had a load of flair.Korda made tennis look like table tennis when he won the Australian open.

    Edberg's backhand and volleys.
    Pete Sampras's serve is as stylish as it gets.
     
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  23. spinbalz

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    Aykhan Mammadov, I think that you misunderstood the real tone of my post, hahaha.

    I was sure my little trick would trap at worts a minimum of one poster of this forum, and it looks like you are that one, bad luck for you...:)
     
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  24. Type40

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    I'd say Edberg was about the most stylish player I've seen. An effortless quality about his game, Federer also has it, Nastase too. On the women's side I'd say Yvonne goolagong-Cawley was the most graceful to watch.
     
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  25. BreakPoint

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    Leander Paes - ever seen him play singles?
    Cedric Pioline - most stylish backhand ever.
    Hichim Arazi - incredible touch and shotmaking.
    Tommy Haas - combines flair and power.
    Bjorn Borg - most stylish of the two-handed backhand players.
    and, of course,
    Roger Federer - so much variety and game it makes your head spin.
     
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  26. !Tym

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    wasting too much time posting
     
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  27. Puschkin

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    I disagree. I think his footwork is excellent, but I would not call him stylish, though.
     
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  28. Ultra2HolyGrail

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    Agassi with the crazy hair and jean shorts= most stylish ever
    Id say federer now...
     
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    Most serve & Volley players are stylish to watch.
     
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    I agree taylor dent just oozes style.
     
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    Why do you think he put, "Am I serious?" Stupid, stupid person you are. Go to your room.
     
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  32. ucd_ace

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    Stylish players are players that do things that look pretty when there's no real need for it. Players who hit drop shots and go for lines when they have the other player pulled way off the court. Unnecessary risk. They make things a lot harder on themselves for "style." People who take unecessary risks are good, not stylish. Federer is hard to classify because he's just so good. It's hard to say he's really risking anything ever, regardless of what the shot is, because he's almost always successful. The old, young? Federer who was losing in the first round of Wimby and what not, he was stylish. He sacrificed winning for style all the time. He wanted to look pretty; he admitted it in his interviews. I think Haas and Safin are probably the most like this. Haas hits his forehand so flat, so often, it's just difficult to watch as a fan. Agh... give yourself some room sometimes!!! Another common thing among stylish players is that they try to eat their racquets (and tennis balls) from time to time... Safin... Rios... I don't know of any others that do this so regularly. Roddick tries, but he's too unsuccessful at it.
     
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  33. loubapache

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    I watched the Dent - Agassi AO match and Dent was such a pleasure to watch. I hope and think Dent will do better this year.
     
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  34. Aykhan Mammadov

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    Spinbalz, I really didn't read or didn't notcie your " Am I serious?"

    Anyhow forum found it's most stupid participant.
     
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  35. @wright

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    I think P. Diddy is a stylish player.
     
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  36. Aykhan Mammadov

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    ucd ace, did you notice that you wrote 2 posts 31 and 32 one after another , but the total number of your posts is the same in both posts: 322 or whatever. Am I serious?
     
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  37. Phil

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    Cedric Pioline, Michael Stich, Federer-these are guys who have textbook strokes and hit every shot with fluidity and grace. Not to mention, their MOVEMENT is so smooth. Generally, baseliners would not be in this category-ever-since going to the net and angling a volley or hitting a drop shot volley involves a bit of style in itself.
     
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  39. v0nz0rz

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    I wouldn't knock anyone's lack of style in their game unless you can beat them. I dont think anyone on this board could take a game off of Roddick. I'm not a Roddick fan, but the haters on this board are getting ridiculous.
     
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    I can't but approve of these 4 names.
     
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  41. rhubarb

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    Oh, come on...you don't need to be able to beat a player to earn some sort of right to comment on that. Whether a player has style has no relation to whether they win, although I do find it particularly pleasing when those who play "pretty" beat up those who don't.
     
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  42. Serve-And-Volley

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    I always liked the style of Jimmy Connors, John McEnroe, and Martina Navratilova. It wasn't that pretty but I always thought it was stylish how they played so hard, and would never give up on any point. Maybe thats what inspired me to serve and volley and never give up any point.
     
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    How can you say Roddick is "ungifted"? I'm assuming your "phylosofy of tennis" is to watch Roger Federer as much you can, and ignore every other player.
     
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    Apparently, we have seen another knowledgeable, gifted, genius Federer fan.
    It's a rule that you are unintelligent and ungifted if you're powerful and aren't the most flexible, agile and physically fit
     
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    I think it's subjective. Someone commented here that Agassi is not stylish, while I disagree. His strokes are really simple and fluid actually, and are fun to watch. I think the biggest factor of "style" is making it look easy. Roddick can hit it hard, but you can tell he's straining. A Federer looks like he's just patting the ball over and then it goes for a winner!

    I thought Sampras was stylish though some people thought he was mechanical. I think we can all agree that Roddick is NOT stylish (though I still like the guy).

    Connors had his own style, but I personally didn't like the way he threw his body into his shots. It got the job done, sure, and he was a great player, but it didn't do it aesthetically for me.
     
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    I Find That Most Have Forgoten The Most Stylish Of Them All .. Rosewall.. ┬┤might Be Of A Diffent Generation But The Little Man Used All Your Pawer Right Back At You With The Minimal Of Effort.
    Another Stylish Player Is Gianluca Pozzi But Kinda Weird Looking In A Funky Way ..

    And Does Anyone See Who Can Return Pimpim Johanssons Serve At Wimbledon This Year ??
    Best Regards From Sweden..
    C
     
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    I used to love watching Henri Leconte play. And to a lesser extent, Petr Korda.

    Among the very top players, Edberg was extremely stylish. Here's an article (a year old) about his 1991 USO Final performance against Courier:
    http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/jan/12dilip.htm

    Of the current players, it goes without saying Federer is the most stylish. As Wilander said in a recent interview, you hardly feel like watching any other player.
     
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    Let me add Adriano Panatta. Hell, even his name is stylish, come on, say it with me....

    Adriano Panatta....Adriano Panatta....Adriano Panatta
     
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    May i add Sebastien Grosjean, A. Agassi and obviously S. Edberg
     
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    I think racket technology has sped up the game to the extent that, in general today's players need to be reactive and/or explosive which doesn't allow for them to be really smooth and/or fluid (effortless), which to me is a major part of being a stylish player. Roger Federer is probably the one exception I can think of.

    I haven't seen much of Gaudio, but my recollection is that he's a pretty stylish modern player. What a backhand.

    Some older era players who I thought were stylish include:

    Adriano Panatta, especially on clay. Very smooth and fluid.

    Mecir. I've never seen anyone hold the ball on his racket longer and effortlessly direct the ball.

    Krishnan. Another guy who was smooth, fluid and effortless. Bill Scanlon was also very smooth and effortless with power.

    Pioline was another stylish player with a great backhand.

    I've not seen Taylor Dent, but I can say his father, Phil, was anything but stylish, though he was a great competitor.

    Stan Smith, who had "old style" classical strokes. I only saw him on TV, but Pancho Gonzales was smooth and effortless.
     
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