what is as now,the most similar string to natural gut?

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  1. stangaele

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    I know that people have posted this kind of threads in the past but i still want to check.
    i have searched for a while and i found something like x1 biphase,xcelpremium and others.
    I wanted to know what was yout choises.

    Let me know
    Daniele
     
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  2. ClubHoUno

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    None feels like nat gut !

    But a softer synthetic string, which feels good are:

    X-One, Xcel Power and NRG2
     
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  3. aggietex08

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    Your findings are correct. X-One and Xcel are for the most part going to be the top choices.
     
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  4. Bad Dog

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    Wilson K Gut

    ClubHoUno is right – nothing feels like natural gut. However, several multifilaments come reasonably close. Some of my favorites, starting with those closest to natural gut:

    1. Wilson K Gut (non-Pro)

    2. Wilson K Gut Pro

    3. LaserFibre Super Natural Gut Pro Stock

    4. Head Rip Control. For those of us who appreciate natural gut strung in the mid-50s, HRC may yield best results when strung in the mid-30s. I believe that another tennis board member pointed out that Head Rip Control provides about 70 % of the “yummy goodness” we expect from natural gut – at a small fraction of the price.

    5. Tecnifibre NRG 2, Tecnifibre X-One Biphase, Babolat Xcel Power, to name a few more that others have mentioned.
     
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  5. HitItHarder

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    Tecnifibre NRG2, Tecnifibre X-One Biphase, Babolat Xcel Power are my "go to" multis. Quality performance.

    Rip Control at a very low tension to up the power sounds interesting.
     
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  6. gameboy

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    You might as well ask what poly feels like synthetics.

    Gut's feel cannot be duplicated with anything else. There is absolutely no substitution.
     
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  7. Mig1NC

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    I just ordered global gut for $10. I don't expect it to be anything as good as VS. But I am going to use it for some test jobs so I don't really care.

    Point is, that is cheaper than some of the high end multis.
     
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  8. scotus

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    If you can manage to string it up and if it does not snap for no reason in the first 48 hours, that would be a $10 well spent.

    As for me, I had an incredibly bad experience with my order of Global Gut and will stay away from it until the vast majority of revews turn rosy.
     
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  9. bsandy

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    I'm curious how many times this question has been asked, in the last year.
     
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  10. gameboy

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    I think based on our local survey at least, the breakage was around 15% at the worst. That would be a "vast majority" in my view.

    Personally, I never had any problems with GG. I don't understand why if you are looking for gut feel, you wouldn't at least try GG.
     
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  11. TennezSport

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    Mantis Madness.....

    You might want to add Mantis Comfort Synthetic to this list. Feels very close to natural gut but also holds tension almost as well. We were truely amazed at this string when we tested it. Lasted through 16hrs of play and only lost 5lbs of tension.

    Cheers, TennezSport :cool:
     
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  12. Valjean

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    Wilson's K-Gut Pro and Babolat's Xcel Power (highlighting different features of a VS natural gut experience, IMO).

    Then I will add in LaserFibre's SuperNatural Gut Phenom XRC.
     
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  14. jackson vile

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    What do you think makes NRG-2 more like gut than the X-1?
     
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  15. ClubHoUno

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    X-One feels quite stiff the first hour or so, then it turns into a better string than NRG2 in my personal opinion. NRG2 feels more uniform from start to finish, but overall I just prefer X-One slightly to NRG2 and I play with VS TEAM 17 natgut all year round.

    The NRG2 feels a bit softer and elastic than X-One, which may be the reason why some feel it resembles natgut more than X-One. In my view NOTHING feels like natgut, not even my favorite multi of all time laserfibre supernatural gut prostock, which unfortunately is made by a crazy company with poor customers service, which is why I try to avoid talking about this string any more.

    X-One to me is a better feeling string after the first hour than any other multi string - and I've testede them all several times. I prefer Xcel Power 1.25 over NRG2 1.25 slightly - but my Top 5 Prime Multis are (Laserfibre is out):

    1. X-One 1.24
    2. X-One 1.18
    3. Xcel Power 1.25
    4. NRG2 1.25
    5. TGV 1.25
     
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  16. meowmix

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    A Pacific Classic/Forten Sweet hybrid would cost around the same, if not less, than most of the multi offerings being named. While the hybrid won't feel 100% like full natural gut, it'll beat ANY of the multis being named here.
     
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  17. Gene1994

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    IMO, Technifibre X-1 Biphase 17.
     
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  18. parasailing

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    Here are my top 5 that are close to gut:

    1. Biphase X-one
    2. Babolat Xcel Power
    3. Kirschbaum Touch Multifibre
    4. Volkl Gripper
    5. Prince Premiere LT
     
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  19. Seacoast Stringer

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    I completely agree. A good hybrid will get you much closer to the feel, provide better durability in some cases, and will be similar or less in cost than going with high end multi's.
     
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  20. Gtech

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    Tecnifibre X-1 may be a good string, but it does not feel like gut at all. It has hard coating on it and it is much "crisper" feeling than gut.

    Prince Premier LT does feel like gut. It is a soft and cushiony string on most hits but has great pop when you hit a hard shot, very much gut like.
     
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  21. parasailing

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    Prince Premier LT is a good string but does not last very long when your opponent hits heavy and fast top spin balls. It lasted two hours before my strings snapped.
     
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  22. Murray_fan1

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    Must try strings that often fly under the radar in this category: MSV Soft Touch- explosive power, nice touch and incredible tension maintenance, MSV Soft Control- ( crisper version of soft touch it has 3 strands of poly added to the outer edge of the string to firm it up a bit adding additional control ) , Weiss Cannon Explosiv! many positive review on TW regarding this string however some people may feel it is too muted/mushy.

    My preference would go to MSV Soft control as I tend to prefer my string on the crisp side but you can't go wrong with any of these strings.
     
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  23. ced

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    list toppers .......

    MSV Soft Touch and Soft Control should be at the top of the list.... great string
     
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  24. mrmo1115

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    What he said :)
     
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  25. vintagefan

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    Late to the party...

    What's the cheapest arm-friendly multi string that feels like gut now? Looking for something dirt cheap for recreational playing. Thanks!
     
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  26. esgee48

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    Look at Mikeler's Multi thread of the same name.
     
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  27. gameboy

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    Again, there is no synthetic that feels like gut.

    If you want something with gut feel, buy a gut. If you want something cheap, just buy something cheap.

    The one has nothing to do with the other.
     
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  28. Mig1NC

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    There are some guts out there now that cost about the same as a high end multi.
     
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  29. TheRed

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    This. There are a couple of synthetics i.e. nrg, mantis comfort syn gut, etc. that feel like gut but none of them play like gut. NRG can get close to the power of gut but gut gives you more spin. Comfort syn doesn't have the power or spin of gut. On top of all that, gut is the most durable. Hybrid it and it'll be fairly reasonable in price. RIP control is a good cross for gut. It won't cut into gut. And if you're fairly adventurous and not a stickler for tension maintenance, when the crosses break, just restring the crosses. Some do this, and I've tried it, but I don't necesarrily recommend it.
     
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  30. phishbiscuits

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    Someone chimed in with my choice- WeissCannon Explosiv!

    I disagree with the assessment. It is NOT muted. It is a rocket launcher at any tension...

    I also agree that the closest thing to gut is gut.

    I think the price is worth it, as it lasts in terms of both feel and durability (no rain!).
     
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  31. mikeler

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    X1 Biphase for a multi is closest in power and feel. The new Ashaway Monogut ZX for a zyex string (although the "feel" is not the same). For comfort but absolutely not power than Mantis Comfort Synthetic is the closest.
     
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  32. DonDiego

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    Nothing feels quite like gut, but Head Intellitour 17 is much closer to gut than Rip Control, for sure. Mainly due to its soft cross string.
     
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  33. emilyhex

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    I have to agree with this to some extent. My experience has been that X-1 has a break-in period, a playable period, and a haywire period. Tri-phase if you will : ). The playable period makes it a really nice string, so comfortable, spinny, pockets the ball well, nice control... possibly better than gut! But, it takes a while to get to that point. And then one day, it starts becoming unplayable and I'm spraying balls all over the place.

    NRG2 has a more consistent lifeline in my experience and is my preferred multi.
     
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  34. vintagefan

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    What's up with Mantis? TW no longer carries its strings.
     
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  35. Tamiya

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    heard some whispers locally its hard to get any new stock lately
     
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  36. Chotobaka

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    Maybe one of the most under-rated and misunderstood strings. If careful with the tension, it really was close to natural gut. Another top-notch Tecnifibre string made strictly for Wilson. I still have a small stash of K-Gut Pro and enjoy the heck out of it at reduced tensions.
     
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  37. anubis

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    X-1 biphase is such a GOOD string. It's like... string crack. You know it's way too expensive, yet it's way too good.
     
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  38. fortun8son

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    Not a whole lot has changed since 2010... except Babolat VS.
    Mantis is in trouble, but there's plenty of Pro's Pro Hi-Tec Multifibre around.
     
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  39. mikeler

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    If you prestretch X1 you will get only a single phase string. It does reduce the power level but it prevents that horrible tension drop.
     
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  40. newpball

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    Nothing is even close to natural gut.

    If you want to play with a string that feels like gut you only have one option and that is to use gut.

    The phrase 'natural gut' is actually a pleonasm and invented by marketeers who would love to see artificial gut and natural gut being perceived as two rather similar things.
     
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  41. 7zero

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    How to prestretch? Shall I tell my stringer and he/she will know what to do, or you mean steping 20 times on freshly strung racquet?
     
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  42. MANTIS Sport

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    I am the owner of MANTIS and I can assure you that MANTIS is not in trouble. However, as a relatively new brand it is certainly not helped by unfounded comments such as your statement above.

    If you visit our website you will also see that our range is actually expanding.

    Finally, if you would like to clarify any facts then please feel free to e-mail me at info@mantis-sport.com. Regards Martin
     
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  43. gmatheis

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    Glad to hear it Martin. I was actually about to recommend one of your strings to a person with shoulder issues, so this is good news :)
     
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  44. scotus

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    Monogut ZX was much stiffer than several polys at very low tension (30 lbs). Perhaps it plays softer at a higher tension?
     
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  45. Rjtennis

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    Thanks for setting the record straight! You guys make some great products!
     
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  46. Mister drool

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    Greetings to the forum Martin!
    Let me thank you first hand! you guys make my number one favorite string - the comfort synthetic!

    Not one of ANY other company delivers that feel, and i have said it here before, pros pro hitec multifibre is NOT the same string has it have a similar construction, but diferent filament coating.

    So thanks again for my favorite string in the market, and I hope you can produce that one for years to come!
     
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  47. taurussable

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    at least 10 characters.
     
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  48. rodrigoamaral

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    natural gut is in its category so no multi will play similar to it... technifibre multis plays the closest IMO
     
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  49. fortun8son

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    My apologies for spreading an unfounded rumor.
    I should have vetted my source.
    I am glad to hear that MANTIS is alive and well.
     
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  50. Gtech

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    Just another vote for the unfortunate reality that no synthetic string plays like gut. Not only is gut soft on the arm, it produces better spin than multis and has a linear quality in terms of power. Meaning, gut is very controllable with no surprises, but then you step on a serve and it launches a bullet.
     
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