What is my level?

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  1. dozu

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    ok, enough of hijacking dak's thread.

    [non joking mode ON for the next 30 seconds]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJHPiDUcVvU&feature=fvsr

    my partner vs. G's partner (4.5 per computer) at the far court, I'd put the over under at G's partner taking about 2 games per set from mine.
     
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  2. arche3

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    So our bet is on? The close guy does not look like "slap chop old dog" from your video but whatever... I can get at least one game a set from him. "ESCROW" BABY!!!! ESCROW!!!!!
     
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  3. dozu

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    If you can live with your conscience, by taking $500 this way, from a poor guy who only makes $3000 a year, money that could otherwise be used to buy food and medicine for the kids.
     
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  4. arche3

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    Where do you live? Cambodia? No one is going to escrow from TT posts lol and take away medicine from your kids.
     
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  5. Devilito

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    is this obsession with rating an american thing? When i'm out hitting it's more like, "hey is this guy pretty good?", "yeah he's solid, hits hard and consistent you should play with him", "awesome thanks i'll go talk to him". Never go on about 5.0 5.5. 6.0 or in between. Seems ridiculous to be honest. Causes arguments over nothing that accomplish nothing.
     
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  6. 5263

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    You are so right and it is never that accurate anyway, along with how it varies across the country.
     
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    I've got new videos taken today after work. Let me get in my disclaimers first.

    1) I couldn't set the machine at its absolute fastest as it wouldn't stay in the court. I did adjust it but it was like having complete ridiculous rockets skidding at me w/ no bounce.

    2) I got up at 4:15am and did my P90X Yoga X workout this morning, went to work, then completed the Chest & Back workout and Ab Ripper X directly after work. From there, I drove home got my gear and went directly to the courts. I was tired when I arrived at close to 6pm!

    3) I placed cones on the court but the balls were coming at me really hard and I had to play more defensive with much more of a just get it back in play objective. I did swing hard but I had to take what I was given. I would've had to change the pace greatly to change the angles. Again, I was already tired.

    Please tell me what you think w/ emphasis on the backhands.

    Video 1:
    I'm hitting w/ my Dunlop Court Star wooden junker I got at a thrift store for $2. Enjoy!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWZ-xA0rcl8

    Video 2:
    I'm hitting w/ my Wilson T-2000. My goodness that thing is heavy!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfWgLS9FRJE

    Video 3:
    I hit some volleys. I'm tired so I know my footwork is bad. It is also weird hitting volleys and shots in general against a machine because you can't read its body actions.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-ih0ETx4TQ

    Bring IT! (My last P90X reference. BTW, this crap works. I've been a runner and this stuff has increased my muscle mass and endurance greatly! I never thought I'd ever jump around in front of a TV but It really works.)
     
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  8. dak95_00

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    BTW, isn't Arche3 a former D1 player? I saw his video. That guy can play! With his experience and strokes, I wouldn't challenge him to a money game of tennis. I might in golf.
     
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  9. Passion4Tennis

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    Why didn't you use your regular racquet?
     
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  10. dozu

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    ok, good news and bad news

    good news - to be able to hit FH crisp with something with sweet spot the size of a dime, further shows your sound FH.

    now the bad news - gonna have to give you the 4.0 award for now, due to the volleys... I know it's difficult to read the machine, however the techniques are off on both wings.

    as low as the 'human racket' concept is getting the approvals in the poll thread... your intent on both the FH and BH volleys was to hand push the racket into the ball, as a result, there is some flipping/ wrist dropping going on, especially on the FH side..... while the correct intent is to use the body to drag the arm/racket unit into the ball.

    Also due to this incorrect intent, on the BH side the body is too square thru the motion... this would indicate that you probably have an open stance bh slice... Not to say you can't hit slices this way, but the great slicers all have closed stance...

    Perhaps volleying against a live partner will show you as a completely different player, and a few bh slice from the baseline would give some clue as well...

    but as now, you are guilty until proven innocent LOLOL.
     
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  11. dak95_00

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    Passion4Tennis: Re: Racquet selection

    I did for the volleys. I did for other shots too. I went through 4 cycles of the machine and switched back and forth.

    I still have a golfers mentality. That is, in golf I used to hear all the time a quote, "Only God can hit a 1 iron." I knew I was playing good golf when I could go to the practice range and nail 1 iron shots off of the turf perfectly sweet.

    In tennis, "It's not the racquet, it's the player." I figure if I can hit with a 65sq. in. racquet, I can hit with my 107 sq. in. racquet too. Actually, hitting with those older racquets requires that I really drive through the ball. It is a good warm-up and it makes hitting w/ my regular racquet much more comforting as it is so light and powerful in comparison w/ the right amount of control. The only difference for me is the margin of error I get when going for shots. I can play just about the same game w/ any old style non-powered racquet. Technology is over-rated!
     
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  12. dozu

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    exactly my point... and this guy wants to set up a bet, and over/ under is for him to win 1 game per set, against my hitting partner.

    guy is a weasel
     
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  13. dak95_00

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    Dozu:

    There is something not quite right about you. LOLOL

    There isn't any wrist. I simply drop my hand down like I'm pounding my first on a table. I normally turn more but I was really exhausted.

    I don't slice very many backhands. I find it really hard to slice w/ an OS racquet. My slice was much better w/ my POG 90. The only time i slice is when I'm approaching w/ a low ball that I want to keep low as I attack.
     
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  14. mightyrick

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    dak95_00, I put you at a very good 3.5. If you self-rated at 4.0, I think you'd get destroyed in 4.0 USTA tournaments. I think your forehand is pretty good. Your backhand looked okay -- but no real pace or bite. Your footwork looked average -- lots of walking to the ball and hitting flat-footed sometimes.

    When I saw your videos, the big weakness from my perspective was your serve. It just wasn't that fast. After the bounce, each serve sat up right in the strike zone. Since you can't drive leg drive/jump into the ball, you end up trying to get power by arming the ball with your loopy, circular, backscratch motion. I'm only a 3.5, but I'd be teeing off on that serve all match long -- unless you managed to ace me up the tee or out wide.

    I know you have some physical issue with having a huge serve. So what I might suggest is getting a good spin serve -- maybe a heavy slice. Something you can hit out very wide.

    It looked like your biggest asset is consistency. I'd have to see you in a match, but it looks like you're a wall. You get every ball back with decent placement. That's really awesome.
     
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  15. arche3

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    I have to agree with Dozu. your volleys look... ummm... bad. wrong footwork and floppy looking.
    Otherwise your game looks good from the other videos. just stay back :)
    Sometimes people never realize you can't volley and never even try to bring you up to net. Put the forehand on blast and run them ragged.
     
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  16. dozu

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    not sure about him getting destroyed in 4.0s.... stroke for stroke would put him in upper 4.0

    now he's gonna have to get match tough... but based on his past competition experience in golf, he shouldn't be too shabby in mental toughness.

    as of now I do think he will have trouble vs legit 4.5s like in the shirtless video.
     
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  17. dozu

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    as much as I don't like the weaselness in arche3... he's got a good point, about playing a baseline game as your foundation....

    and you have shown good move when running to your right, this enables you to cheat a little to the ad side and try to dominate the point with inside out FHs, and hide your weakness in the BH a little.
     
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  18. arche3

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    Please... ease up DZ. your the one yelling "ESCROW" all through this forum. I simply took you up on one. you don't have to take my "ESCROW" I have as much internet forum rights to challenge you to an "ESCROW" as you do so back off! :)

    I am 44 years old lol. the guy you just posted looks more than 15 years younger. I still say the orig old dog video is not the same guy you just posted. slap chop old dog is not a 4.5 in my opinion. Also, if slap chop is a 4.5 then your probably a 5.5 because your obviously way way better than old dog.
     
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  19. Djokovicfan4life

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    Dak, on your volleys it looks like you have the technique backwards. You take a pretty large backswing, then stop the racquet at contact. If you watch the best volleyers, the racquet/hitting hand move through contact out to the target. Yes, some of them take a sizable backswing, but people like us should start off simple.

    In your ready position, keep your hands in front of you, not close to the body like groundstrokes. This helps reduce backswing.
     
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  20. arche3

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    Hey great post. I agree with this critique. the fundamental of the volleys look wrong. (I was so busy hazing DOZU I didn't post anything useful for the OP.)
     
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    I am confused... I only have 1 partner visible in all my videos, except the most recent one on youtube, but he was not visible in the camera angle.

    the 'slap chop old dog' (I am gonna tell my partner about this nickname he just got, he's gonna love it)... I know his record in the leagues.... in the videos he's working on something (actually just had a break thru yesterday).

    About ESCROW... you gotta throw a bone to the counter party here... yes I was yelling all over the place, but... look at the lines I gave - winning 2 matches in a 4.5 tourny... not 1 lousy game per set !
     
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    Well, I'm kind of in a lazy mood right now, didn't get around to using the human backspin yet. More to come.
     
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  23. arche3

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    I thought "slap chop old dog" was your name for him? I must be confused then.
    I don't bet so I was egging you on. lol. there are a lot of really great 4.5 players so I'd be stupid to say I can win 2 rounds in a 4.5 tourney like you and put up 3k. On the other hand I know I can win 2 games off of almost all rec players. :) But anyone can get bageled though so it might be too risky... even if I win 6-2 first set and lose 0-6 second set I would lose the bet.
     
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  24. dozu

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    alright you guys made me laughing too hard for the past 5 min, now I am gonna have tough time going to sleep.

    gotta get up early to control the old dog spray angle, so until then... so long.

    to tell the truth, today during the day I really got a good ab work out as I was laughing way too much while reading and posting here.

    like D4L said, too bad many couldn't share the laughter.
     
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  25. Djokovicfan4life

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    I'll have you know that high school/college is serious business. These are real people with real problems. They need to pronate their forearm through the vortex of their internal sturdley. Oh yeah, and then go to English Comp 1. Life is hard.
     
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  26. dak95_00

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    SWEET! Now, I'm an average 3.5 player. I can join a 3.5 team! I think you are right and I should self-rate at 3.5 because I am slow, flat-footed, and have a weak serve.

    3.5s must be really, really good in Austin. I've played against 4.5s in Dallas and was competitive after not playing for months. That is, I'd just started playing again after taking 6 months off for fall and winter and was visiting and looking for a hit. I lost and can't remember the score. I don't remember getting blasted off of my weak serves. I also remember many games going to duece.

    I know 4.5 seems to be the highest rating here in Columbus so that can mean a wide range in ability and I don't claim to be a 4.5. I do claim to be competitive against nearly any player I've gone against.
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    Does anybody read the posts or do you just watch the videos and then post? I'm not talking about all of the rants that came before. I'm just talking about the OPs post.
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    I need to set up a poll. It would be about pace of shots in videos and actually reading posts to get a history first.

    Pace: Balls actually look slower from the side or from behind.
    Reading: I just post after watching or I read first and then post.
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    Oh well. I guess we'll just have to see how I do in those 3.5 tourneys. I hope I don't get accused of sandbagging. I'll have to blame it on MightyRick who "told me" I'd get blasted at that level.
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    Yes, that was defensive!
     
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  27. 0d1n

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    Stop making sense :).

    No he wouldn't, and no you wouldn't (if you're really a 3.5).

    Op. You are a 4.x. Anybody calling you a 3.x or a 5.x is smoking crack or at least a really good jo1nt.
    I would say go with the .0 for now, and let the .5 for later when you get into more of a "match shape".
    See, I'm not from the States and never participated in one of your "NTRP" tournaments, but I actually watch plenty of tennis, and play at a sufficiently high level to know what I'm talking about, which is more than I can say about many of the "American raters" on this board.
    They are usually keyboard tennis professionals who rate real tennis professionals as 4.5's (or even 4.0 in some famous cases), and even very good amateur players (4.5 to 5.5) as 3.0 to 4.0.
    They usually have never seen themselves on video and think that this type of rating makes them look better at tennis than they actually are.
     
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  28. dozu

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    goodness..... I didn't expect this thread to go down the poll and escrow route so early.

    talk about put myself in your shoes lolol.... dak, how about this, I will put a bet on your poll challenges, just to further scare and confuse the migit brains.

    I will put an escrow on, that ALL of those you challenge will chicken out.

    now how is that for an over/under line, arche3? live and learn!
     
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  29. mightyrick

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    I said a very good 3.5. Not average. You asked for opinions, and I'm giving you one. Just because I don't have a love affair with your Cinderella-story, coming-back to tennis after a big layoff -- and I'm not willing to call you a 4.5, stop getting offended.

    I've seen better 4.5 videos on this forum than yours. Far better forehands. Far better serves. Far better backhands. Far better footwork. Far better volleying. I think 4.0 is generous. I think most 4.0s would crush you. The 4.0s that wouldn't crush you would be 4.0s who rated that way because they were too prideful to have a 3.x rating.

    There's no question that 3.5s in Austin are very good. Probably stronger than most. Especially considering that the University of Texas has a historically top-rated D1 tennis program. There are tons of ex-tennis players here in Austin who were D1.

    I can't speak for Dallas tennis. I can only say that in Texas... in anything... Austin is far, far different than Dallas, Houston, or San Antonio. Athletically speaking. Usually far, far better... due to the University of Texas.

    I didn't tell you that you'd get blasted at a 3.5 level. I said you were a very good 3.5. I said you'd get blasted in USTA at a 4.0 level unless you are playing in some backwoods municipality with no real tennis presence or a geriatric municipality like Sun City.

    By all means, go pay your registration fee, go self-rate and register in a USTA NTRP 4.0 tournament. Obviously, good luck to you. I think it'll be a good learning experience... regardless of the outcome.

    If you'd video it, that'd be great, too.
     
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    All I can say is that if you've never been in an NTRP tournament, then you don't know what you're talking about.

    Anyone can self-rate at whatever they want. And in USTA, *many* folks will sand-bag their NTRP rating to ensure that they win. This is why I'm saying the OP isn't a 4.0. In fact, many folks will challenge their rating if they get bumped up... just so they don't start losing. In the tourneys I've been in, he'd get crushed.

    I can't even believe people are saying OP is nearly a 4.5 or a true 4.5. That is ridiculous.
     
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    I've never hit with pressureless balls. Are those they kind of dead? The reason I ask is that I don't see anything wrong with your backhand but none of the balls you hit with your backhand seemed to have any pace on them.
    Nice forehand, btw.
     
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    All I can say is that I've "played the rating game" on this forum enough to know I'm very accurate at it.
    Yes more accurate than self proclaimed NTRP gurus who keep rating everybody low and proclaiming that their "area" is the "center of the universe from a tennis perspective" and hence their rating is influenced by that but when they face serious arguments, like ... "why doesn't their area consistently dominate the national events" ...etc etc... they duck the questions and run away to hide.
    The guy is no 3.5. No...not a "good one", "better one", "excellent one" "the best".
    He is no 3.x ... period. If he joins a 4.0 league he will do fine and stay at that rating certainly not go down to 3.5. With some hard practice and some progress he might even "promote" to 4.5.
    That's my "prediction" and yes...I'm right.
    And no...if you are 3.5 (even in your center of the universe area) you are not going to "be teeing off on that serve all match long". Not while keeping the ball in the court anyway.
    You could probably be teeing off on it into the back fence though...I'm not saying you wouldn't :oops:
     
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  33. dozu

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    well, I guess the best way to settle, is to have a video poll, to see if mightyrick can tee off on dak's serves.

    and some side bets will also be cool.

    why do people always chicken out? are we turning into a country of sissies and kop-outs ?
     
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    Sure man...a poll is the answer to everything, including the famine in some African countries.
     
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    in a way it is.... if the politics are truely poll based, instead of dictation based, then these countries should fare much better economically.

    anyway, back to the problem in hand.... everybody is afraid... they hide behind the internet anonimity, typing away with baseless sh1t... but when it' comes to put up or shut up time, nobody can bring the real stuff.
     
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    I don't know about a poll proving anything, but I'd be more than willing to play a match against him. If I win, I win. If I lose, I'll lose like a man and eat my words. I've eaten my words more than once in life, and I'm sure I'll eat a lot more.

    In match play, even if dak wins, he isn't going to bagel me. Not by far. It would be very competitive, I predict. I think it would be a good exercise. Because my game has a few fundamental lackings. By all rights, he should nearly bagel me if he's a legit 4.0.

    People say the Baskin Park shirtless guy is a 4.5, and I'm telling you that I would give that guy a serious run for his money. Because I actually have more variety than his opponent in that video. And I'm still only a 3.5. Although the match would probably run 4 hours.

    I wish I understood why people's ratings are so different. Perhaps it is because people rate from their own play -- as a baseline. I dunno.
     
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    @mightyrick -

    got a video?

    this feels like dejavu all over again.... in my 'viewing pleasure' thread, got a few guys going on and on how great 'their 4.5s' are, blah blah, but had nothing to show when a visual evidence is requested.
     
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  38. Consolation

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    Your posts have taken a real turn for the worse lately dozu. You used to post a lot, but at least you seemed to be trying to be helpful. Lately you seem to just want confrontation.

    Do you really think posting a video and/or doing a poll would solve anything? Has your video provided clarity or argument? How about this one, or for that matter any other?

    Anyone who posts a video here has to know there will be responses all over the map. That's a given. You don't have to moderate it, incite it, or bring it back to your personal issues.

    I'm not sure what your aim is lately.

    This board doesn't have to be dominated by people who take every opportunity to rile things up. There will be differences in opinion. It seems to me those differences should not become the topic though. There's enough spam written about the actual topics. There's no need to make more spam arguing about the spam.
     
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  39. dozu

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    yo Consolation, wonna poll?
     
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  40. mightyrick

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    Why do you want a video of me doing anything? I've already said I'm just a 3.5. I already said I haven't even been playing for two years. I've already said that I have some fundamentals I still need to perfect, but there are some fundamentals I'm pretty decent at. I feel I'm pretty objective about my game.

    Why would I want to post a video? So someone could call me a 3.0? So someone could say that I'm underrating myself and I'm actually a low 4.0? So someone could confirm what I already know? If I post a video, it will be because it actually serves a constructive purpose. I see no purpose in it.

    If someone's goal is just to see how I play, there's no need. Ask me how I play and I'll tell you. If you actually want to play me, then when we're in eachother's neck of the woods, let's set something up. I'm all for it. I love tennis. I love to play against different styles. I love to play against different skill/experience levels.

    But I'm not going to post a video unless there's a real reason to do it.
     
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  41. dozu

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    ^^^ you just made my point for me.
     
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    1. never cry in a forum to not laugh before any comments were made:D.

    2. I actually like you strokes. they are technically sound. maybe they are a little tame because they don't have much spin (there was a tennis site who called this "polite cup of tea top spin":D). if you would add some racket tip acceleration the shots would have a much more "biting" and heavy spin and would be harder to handle.

    but I can't really say anything against your strokes. nice work.
     
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  43. dozu

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    you know dak and I had some discussions before, some friendly, some not.

    but I have to take my hats off to the guy because he has guts.... unlike some people who just blow bubbles all day.

    'my 4.5s are better than your 4.5s'
    'my 4.0s will crush you'
    'you won't bagel me even though I am a 3.5'
    'I will punish your serve all day'

    and so on.
     
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    I think you have a pretty loose definition of "guts". If your definition of "guts" is basically someone posting a video and getting honest feedback -- that is a pretty low bar.

    I asked about practicing with foam balls -- ordinarily used by children -- to learn a better topspin stroke. I effectively got called a child by a couple of people for that. Does that mean that I have "guts" for posting that question? I don't think so. People can say what they want. I'll read the ones that have something real to say and ignore the ones that don't.

    Or how about I'm the only person who disagreed in the whole thread and called the guy a really good 3.5? Does that take "guts"? Rather than rolling with the crowd and giving a 4.0 or 4.5? I don't think so. All I did was make a personal observation.

    I wouldn't give out the "guts" award so easily. Reserve that for people who have done truly brave stuff. Posting videos or opinions on an internet message board don't qualify IMHO.
     
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  45. 10ACE

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    Work on footwork as stated- more relaxed no need to be like a jack russel hoping on toes.

    Also rating wise- really can't issue one- you need match play.

    I could take a video of my Golf swing teeing off with my driver- and from the looks of it, one would think I am a low hitter when in fact I am a 15 handicap.

    I would play 3.5 and 4.0, 4.5 no chance. 3.5 you will be able to work on your game- adjust your serve- construct points. 4.0 you can see how players are going to attack your serve, and the consistency of play is much greater- will be more challenging and fun. Either way- I would do both- Heck I have played Open tournaments and got beat up on 6/3 6/1 but I had fun.
     
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  46. dozu

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    maybe the bar is not that low, otherwise how would so many get tripped up by it.
     
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  47. dak95_00

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    MightyRick,

    If you've only been playing two years, I'd probably bagel you! I also think Dozu is referring to the fact that I posted some new videos w/ the machine cranked up a bit more and I used ancient relics. POST YOUR VIDS! We'll see your guts! I bet you'd be surprised at what you look like and how slow the ball looks like it is moving on the video.

    2 years experience!

    Others,
    Read the disclaimers. Pressureless balls don't lose their bounce but they don't have a lot of bounce either. They also feel very hard. They are not great for service practice. You'd get more out of using old dead balls than pressureless if given the choice.


    My regular spinning serve always hits the back fence on a single hop. Anyone who thinks it is a lolipop is crazy! It isn't awesome or 130 but it is placed good enough to win points at necessary times. I find that changing pace can be as effective as a bomb and more effective if those bombs don't land in consistantly. Have you guys ever watched baseball? Remember Greg Maddux? Not blazing speed but amazing control and off speed stuff which always kept batters guessing and never allowed them to tee off.

    Thank goodness we don't post golf swing videos. My experience has shown that the difference between great, good, and average in golf is between the ears and consistancy! I'd say that tennis is similar. Strokes can give a range but not a score because you can never account for a person's mental toughness.

    I like to think I'm tough enough to withstand most. Otherwise, I wouldn't post videos and leave myself open to ridicule.
     
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  48. mightyrick

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    Like I said, I'll play you. I have no issue playing you. Where are you? I do get around sometimes with my job and I might be able to get to your neck of the woods. If you beat me, fine. If you bagel me, then I'll eat my words. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong.

    And yes, only 2 years experience.

    If any of your serves hit the back fence on a single hop, then I probably wouldn't tee off on all of them. With that, you're probably hitting at least 90mph ... if not 100mph or 110mph. But the videos didn't look that way and there was no video I saw with you hitting serves from the back.

    I know what you're saying, but Greg was an alien. And BTW, Greg could still throw 92 or 93 when he wanted to. 92 or 93 is not slow.

    Honestly, I haven't ridiculed at all. I didn't call you names. I didn't do anything of the sort. I said where I thought you were good. I said where I thought you needed work. I said how I thought I might play you. I said how I thought others in my sphere of knowledge might play you. In fact, my last sentence in my initial post said that your consistency was awesome from those videos. Both serve and strokes.
     
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  49. dozu

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    mightyrick, just let go.. and no need for all the hassel flying to Ohio and get bageled... just post a video, and if 90% of the TWers think you get bageled by dak, why bother going to Ohio? (by the way, without seeing your video, I bet $5 that you get bageled)

    you don't want to become peoplespeace 2.0 do you? guy has 5 ATP points coming, and claimed to crush me, but won't show up for a video poll, even though I set the over under at him winning 1 game from me over 2 sets of play.
     
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  50. mightyrick

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    dozu, the difference is that I'm not claiming to crush anybody. You're turning it into that, and I understand why you may feel the need to do that, but just stop already. Obviously, you feel that this thread mimics your past experience, therefore you are reliving it. In this equation, dak is you and I am peoplespeace, etc etc. Sorry, but I've already decided that for the purposes of this thread you aren't into any meaningful discussion. You are only into creating or escalating conflict -- for whatever reason.

    Pretty soon, I'm expecting you to ask me if really want to become the father that abused you in childhood -- or didn't love you enough -- or whatever.

    Stop making it so personal. Stop creating conflict. Your desire to do so really speaks volumes.
     

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