What is the future prospect of Donald Young?

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  1. joy

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    Is he destined to have a big career ahead of him, possibly world no 1 for the future? What type of player he is and what are his strengths? Since he is a lefty, may be he can provide a good matchup for Nadal. When is he expected to make an impact in the pro tennis? May be in short future?
     
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  2. Max G.

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    He seems to be far overhyped...

    He's very good for a 16-year-old, but not pro material yet.

    Maybe in a couple of years.
     
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  3. vllockhart

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    Duh, yeah, he's 16. He's a junior, not a pro.

    But u can't really predict what will happen later. I've heard retired pros talk about the top juniors they played whose success never translated onto the pro tour.

    Nothing to do but wait and see. If he doesn't get some height, then it'll be hard for him.
     
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  4. ACE of Hearts

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    We will see, the thing with him now is that he lacks power.He can built that up.
     
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  5. el_profe

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    he is way overhyped, he is taking all these wildcards and doing nothing with them, he is even losing in futures, he finally broke through this week with a weak field, for hsi age he should have some succes in futures, he is also small and at 16 its not like he will grow 5 inches and be 6 ft. tall so dont look for him to all of a sudden develop and be this big hitter.

    Del Potro, Nadal, Gasquet, korolev where all having more succes at his age in the future and challenger circuit than young was.

    He is a good junior but his junior succes has not translated to even the lowest pro level.
     
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  6. Colpo

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    He's awfully little, both in physical stature and presence. His parents are little people too, from what I've seen, and they also lord the game and their sacrifice over him ("love this game ... or else"). Let's be honest, what ceiling does this player have, and is he already there? He's no Al Parker in the juniors, and Al Parker flamed out after college.

    Ever since Michael Chang was near the top for several years, it's become verboten to say that a little guy can't be big in the modern game. But the modern game (men's) changes all the time, getting faster and stronger. Someone in Tennis Week made the point that Roddick is still playing his 2003 game now, but that now, only 3 years later, his 2003 game is dated and ineffective. What does that hold for Donald Young?

    I wish the kid the best. God knows he's had every opportunity under the sun to excel, and there are some in his circle (IMG people come to mind) who have cultivated that 'goose' to date for sure. Beauty is, the worse thing that can happen is he scholarships to Stanford or Duke, assuming he's still eligible, and that's not so bad.
     
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  7. Lefty Spin

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    Donald is already about 5'10. I think he can definately grow to about 6'1. He is obviously lacking in the power department, however, I think the trend towards mens tennis being all about power is diminishing. Hewitt, Coria, and even Nadal are not what I consider power players. In terms of record, Donald already has surpassed Al Parker. Don't get me wrong, Al was real good. I own some bagels to prove it. In terms of credentials, however, Donald has surpassed Al. As he develops his game, I think Donald definately has top ten or twenty potential. As others have said, it is difficult to predict how any teenager will develop at the pro level. In terms of variety, Donald really can do a lot of things. He can serve and volley, grind and at times play an aggressive baseline game. Ultimately, Donald will need to discover/learn which style works best for him on the Tour. I really think Donald could be a potential Australian or French champion in five years. Only time knows the answer to that question.
     
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  8. Pancho

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    He is overhyped. He has yet to win an ATP match. I doubt he many matches this year. He should try the bush leagues first like Challengers and Satetlites before tacking ATP tours and lose in straight sets.
     
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  9. Moose Malloy

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    He's not still playing junior events, is he?
     
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  10. cruzersi99

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    Give the kid some time. He's 16 and at 5'10" he's a stick. If you watch him play, you can immediately tell his tennis mind is very advanced. Physically he's just not over powering yet (although he may never be), and it may just take a while for him to get the confidence when playing on the big circuit.
     
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  11. mr.fitch

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    Just give him time to get that growth spurt and he'll do better. He's gotta gain some muscle as well. He's 16 and he will need physical maturity as well as more training.
     
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  12. devilish_duke

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    THere's nothing special about him. I don't see why he and scoville get so much hype... I know better players ranked a bit higher who would really benefit from the WCs given to these two.
     
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  13. Max G.

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    Well, this past December he still was. Hasn't played any this year yet, according to the ITF site.
     
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  14. Max G.

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    Well, getting to be the #1 ranked Junior at age 16 is pretty special.

    I do agree about the wildcards though, there was no reason to give him so many last year, he certainly wasn't ready for the pro tour yet...
     
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    He is a nobody with good strokes, at best he will be another Vince Spadea - like player.
     
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  16. erik-the-red

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    I don't want to hate on the guy, because he is talented, but...

    ...if he is the future of American tennis, then American tennis is really, really screwed.

    If you're my height (~5'9") and you want to make it on the ATP Tour, then you have to be willing to grind out every single point to the dust, like Coria. Or...you have to be able to show explosiveness on a regular basis, like Grosjean (forehand) or Gaudio (backhand).

    Yes, he's "only" sixteen, but I always like to point out that at sixteen Andre won ATP matches and struck the ball very hard. Michael [Chang] even won a title as a sixteen-year old.

    I think he has been spoiled the past year with his wildcards. Look at Baghdatis, also a former world #1 junior. He played a lot of qualies and futures last year and look what happened - finalist at this year's Australian Open, losing to Roger Federer, and putting up a good fight in the process! He toughed it out and was not spoiled in the process.
     
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  17. quest01

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    He isnt playing very well right now. It will take him a few years i think until he reaches his full potentional. I could beat him right now probably or atleast take a set away from him.
     
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  18. West Coast Ace

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    Are you an expert in teen male growth patterns? What do you base this on? How do you know he's going to grow any more? Someone said his parents are small - that's usually a pretty reliable barometer - he may get a little bigger through nutrition.

    Disagree with your assessment of power too. Power robs your opponent of time and keeps him on the defensive and unless there's a major change to the game that trend will continue. They can slow down the courts but the players are getting bigger and stronger. If they try to tone down the racket technology they'll get sued and lose. And even if they pulled it off, taking the power out of the rackets would hurt Young more than the bigger guys.

    Not sure I buy your Al Parker comparison either. The pundits all thought Parker would be very successful. Seems like a lot of Donald Young's pub is based on politically correct notions.

    Having said all that the right answer is "too soon to tell." Besides the physical, there's no way to gauge his desire to be a champion. Will he put in the work or be happy to be a tour player and bank good money, drive awesome cars, and get hot chicks?
     
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  19. arnz

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    I agree with all of the above.... No, I mean I disagree with all the above..

    Who on earth is Donald Young???:confused:
     
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  20. Bones08

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    I think Donald will be very Good. I mean our opionions are good, but look at the people who have given him praise.Nick B,Roddick,Blake,Bud Collins,and Patrick Mcenroe. Not only them, but John Mcenroe. I mean, I just don't think that if they saw someone playing, the would say he was that good. It has to be something good there....He almost won the 1st set at the U.S. Open, and had he won, it could have been a different match. He can play, he's 16 years old. I'm sorry but take it as I say it, I just wonder would he get talked about the same way if he was different...
     
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  21. fastdunn

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    Call me a racist and I'm not black but I can't help thinking
    that it's more likey to be a black guy if there is going to be
    THE player in the future who can better Laver or Sampras
    and get labeled as the greatest ever...
     
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  22. legolas

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    yea
     
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  23. Phil

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    He's some junior player who hasn't won a set in the pros, been handed wild cards all over the place, and is WAY overhyped on this Board. He could break wind and a new thread would appear to discuss it...kinda sickening how some people here jump on the bandwagon for a nobody (at least at this point).
     
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  24. Lefty Spin

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    I am not an expert in teen growth patterns, but I have actually met both of Donald's parents. So I probably have a better basis than someone who has not. Two years ago, one of the coaches in the area who knows Donald said that he was told he would grow six more inches. At the time, he was about 5'6. I was told he wears a size 12 shoe. Does this mean anything, probably not. But I wear a ten and I am 5'10. I have seen most of the top Juniors in the U.S. play and Donald is the top prospect. He handles power well, As I think I mentioned in this or another thread, I think once he understands what skill works best for him at the ATP level he will do real well. Time will tell.
     
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  25. tykrum

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    It says something about him that there is a bandwagon to jump on at age 16 though.

    I have never seen him play, so I have no say in how good he is or can/will be. I will say that if he is so cerebral etc. (the male Martina Hingis or something), I really hope he makes it because I would like to see someone like that playing on tour for many years.
     
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  26. el_profe

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    youre right about almost everything, but Baghdatis played no futures last year, he was playing challengers, but he played more atp events than challengers. But yes he was not handed out wildcards like most players he earned his way to the top, donald young has earned his 30something points almost exclusively by wildcards.

    And like I pointed out, Korolev, Del Potro, Nadal, Gasquet all had succes at the future level definetly and at challenger level also, and even some at the atp level, at the age of 16. I dont think Young's breakthrough if it does occur will be anytime soon, and I doubt he will be a top 10 player as he was hyped to be.
     
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    Sick of hearing about him to be honest.
     
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    Well actually he turned pro last year so I guess that makes him a pro. He has contracts with Nike, head and IMG and gets prize money if he wins. Chang turned pro at 15 and Agassi at 16 so just being 16 doesn't mean you can't be a pro.
     
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  29. sandiegotennisboy

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    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too overhyped, and those blue contacts annoy me. I say stop handing him the wildcards until he actually deserves em. Last year was pathetic.
     
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    He hasn't had a wildcard for an ATP event since the Open. Keep it going Donald, and when you do make it-Look back at this board and laugh at what these people said. You're already going to face a lot for......I'll stop there.
     
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  31. DaveGrable

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    Not only are you a racist, but an idiot too. Why on earth would a black guy be the one to better Sampas? Federer is already on his way to accomplish this. White guys seem to be perfectly capable.

    A black guy? Not in your lifetime, buddy.
     
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    His comment is stupid, yours is worse.
     
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    hahahahahaha!!! My avatar resumes my reaction reading this thread.
     
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    Idem!!

    LOL
     
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    OK. Let's be more foolish (as the moto of Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple).

    I do have bias against black people: They are more athletic than
    others. I don't want to lie. I have that stereo-typing tendency.

    Their muscle fibers compositions are different from others which
    is scientific data...
     
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  36. Moose Malloy

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    So was Arthur Ashe racist, as well Grable?
    He said (in the late 70s I believe) that the only thing preventing black athletes from dominating tennis was that it was too expensive.
    It's not just a coincidence that the most athletic positions in NFL, NBA have been played by black athletes for many years.

    One of the (many) reasons tennis doesn't get its props in the US as being an athletic sport is that it is a 99% white sport.
     
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  37. Grimjack

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    I think Young might have the highest ceiling of any player I've seen since Al Parker.
     
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    Baghdatis hasn't played futures in years.
     
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    If Arthur Ashe said that, then Yes.... he's a racist. To claim that any one race would/should dominate a sport is racist propaganda.

    There was a kid named Martin Blackman (yes that really is his last name), who trained at the Bolletieri Academy at the same time as Agassi, Courier, and Wheaton. This Black male had all the same training, teaching, and advantages as the other players, yet his short-lived career in the pros was a joke.

    Uh, hmmmm.... since he's Black, shouldn't he have dominated? What happened.... weren't his fast twitch muscles working? What a mystery....

    Tennis is a thinking man's game as well as an athletic sport. Brad Gilbert already proved this.

    Someone mentioned the NFL. How many great Black quarterbacks have their been in the history of Football?
     
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  40. chrismaylor

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    Overhyped

    No chance, saw him play in the US Open, kid just doesn't have the game a probably will never...



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    Pretty tough beating from Henman at IW.
    Lots to learn, I guess.
     
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  42. tennispro2388

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    How is Donald compared to Federer at 16, I mean by match statistics, win/loss, and ranking?
     
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  43. Jonas

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    I believe he is ahead of Federer (at this point).
    People often forget that DY is 16 years old..He has already won huge 18-under tournaments and junior grand slams. He is a bit overhyped as of right now, but by the time he is 19-20 he will be one of the best players in the world, if he doesn't get injured. I don't think burn-out will be a problem for him.
    He's going to be a solid pro no matter what, but if he grows into a decent size and developes a larger game (which he should) he will be a great one./
     
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  44. Volly master

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    hes going to be a pro, but not grandslam matieral IMO

    meanwhile all the other countries are training their own kids to match with todays style (AKA anti-federer).

    But as long as the Federer Era continues, Young doesnt have a shot in hell.
     
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  45. Jonas

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    By the time DY hits his prime 22-23 Federer won't be playing professional tennis, or at the very least will be just hanging around the tour.
     
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    I think he'll never make it out the box, he just does'nt have the game.
     
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    height doesnt matter.
    he can build up muscles
     
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  48. Wondertoy

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    I've seen him play 3 times. He is overhyped and does not have any weapons. Being a great junior may have no correlation to success in the pros. You can be a pusher and keep the ball deep and be a great junior. He has a weak forehand, a weak serve (with a very low toss). He moves well and is essentially a grinder with no big stroke. I think his chance for success are slim. Johnny Mac liked his game at 10-12. Everyone jumped on the bandwagon at 15-16 as lemmings do. There's a reason why the 12-14's mean nothing about future success as a pro. Players mature differently in body size. The weapons don't come out until 16-18. IMO, he's more likely to be the next Tommy Ho rather than the next great one.
     
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  49. Bones08

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    He'll be very go by the time he's 18-19 years old. People are so funny, if some things about Donald we're different, people would feel different. All of these young us players who people say should get this or that, most have been beaten by Donald. His problem is when he loses a set, he get so mad at hmslef/and his game that he tends not to compete as hard in the next set. He's got to grow up from that, and when he does he will be very good.
     
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  50. tennisspice

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    He's yet another example of the fact that is takes a markedly different set of talents to succeed at the pro level as opposed to the junior level. I hope that there is some way that he can get his college eligibility back, go to school, and have a nice life.
     
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