What is the significance of Nadal's victory in MC?

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  1. mandy01

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    From what I've seen of the tournament, Nadal was playing better than Djokovic throughout, so was anyway the firm favourite to win. The win must be good for Nadal's confidence but what surprised me was how rattled he looked in the first set even when he could see Djokovic handing him freebies or simply playing sloppy tennis. Yes, he served well, but his returns lacked bite. I didn't think he was doing anything special on the return games other than keeping the ball in play and I think that had something to do with nerves more than anything else. Any actual pressure from Novak on his serve and he could've crumbled.
    I'm not sure about the second set but overall, if he won it easily, this should give him confidence for his future matches which may be closer provided Djokovic is playing well.
     
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  2. li0scc0

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    Exactly. THis is what I have been saying ever since the Australian Open. When you consider that Djokovic barely beat Nadal at the Australian on Djokovic's best surface, it was ludicrous for people to say Nadal would never again beat Djokovic. Put the match on Nadal's best surface (slow and high bouncing) and it is a blowout.
     
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  3. Mike Sams

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    What happens if his serving isn't flawless? What happens when he has to hit more second serves? What happens when they move to a faster surface where the slow as molasses clay doesn't give him the extra time to defend and retrieve from side to side? What happens when he has to play better players on clay like Federer, Del Potro and Isner, none of whom showed up in Monte Carlo?
    Big tests await in Madrid and Rome for everybody.
     
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  4. li0scc0

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    If they ever would play on a fast surface, neither Dorkovic or Nadal would win.
     
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  5. Mike Sams

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    AO is a great surface for Nadal too. It's a slow surface, as slow as clay which gives a lot of time to defend balls. It's why Federer can't beat Nadal and Djokovic. Because AO is designed for grinders.
    And furthermore, Nadal had to play out of his mind just to take the match into a 5th set against Djokovic. And DJokovic was already tired from the 5 set war against Murray with one less day to rest. So it shows that Nadal still even while playing out of his mind against a tired Djokovic on a hardcourt surface which Nadal loves still wasn't enough to get the win.
     
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  6. Mike Sams

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    For all the ignorant people on here, the AO surface is both Djokovic's and Nadal's favourite surface. You cannot hit winners on the AO surface which means you need to grind it out and grinding is what Nadal loves the most. His whole game is to grind. It's why Federer can't beat either Nadal or Djokovic at the AO. His game doesn't work against them on such a slow hardcourt surface.
     
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  7. li0scc0

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    Slow and high bouncing is Nadal's best surface. Think Clay like Monte Carlo.
    Slow and low bouncing is Djokovic's best surface. Think modern hard courts like the Australian Open.

    Slow and low bouncing is fine for Nadal, but not his best. Slow and high bouncing is fine for Djokovic, but not his best.
     
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    So,that's why Federer was destroyed in Dubai last year and Abu Dhabi exo by Djokovic.:):):)It was to slow, actually it was too fast for Rog, nice logic.
     
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  9. mandy01

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    Are you kidding me? AO is absolutely NOT a low-bouncing surface. It may bounce lower than MC but that by itself doesn't make it a low-bouncing surface. WTF is a low-bouncing surface and Nadal gets his ass handed to him there. NOT AO. Gosh, how do you Nards come up with such nonsense?
     
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  10. mandy01

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    First of all, I doubt the courts were playing as fast last year as they were this year. But assuming they were, your point (if you had one), still won't hold water because Djokovic is generally great on HC with AO or slow HC being his best surface. That means, he can beat Roger on a court like Dubai, and given how sloppy Roger was in that match, it isn't much of a surprise either. But more often than not, Roger will still hold the advantage on a quick surface. And Abu Dhabi? Seriously? :roll:
     
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