What level league should this student join??

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  1. keithfival

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    Have an early 30s female student. Played in high school but hasn't played since, other than 3 lessons. Backhand is steady, FH totally unpredictable, might miss 5 in a row into the fence, maybe makes one out of 4? Tall, fast and can probably get serves in the box and probably decent at net. She wants to join a league. I have never seen 2.5 or 3.0 or much 3.5 league so I have no idea what she should join. Wouldn't want her to bum out teammates by missing every FH but she's definitely not a rank beginner.

    What's the feel of 2.5 vs 3.0 vs 3.5 ladies???

    Thanks!
     
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  2. gmatheis

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    with that many mistakes sounds like 2.5
     
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  3. anubis

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    Depends on your league situation. How big is the 2.5 ladies league? Lots of people?

    We have no 2.5 ladies leagues where I'm from, so she'd have to go to the 3.0 league. But if you have a lot of teams for 2.5 ladies, then it would be a good opportunity for her to learn and grow, and especially gain confidence in herself.
     
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  4. J_R_B

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    At least 3.0, probably 3.5.
     
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  5. emilyhex

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    3.0 minimum. If she sticks with it, she will improve rapidly due to the previous background. Can you have her play with some 3.5s and see how she does? If she holds her own, I'd ask her to choose (and btw, ultimately it is her choice).
     
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  6. keithfival

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    Ah, votes for all three, naturally! I told her about a local meetup to meet a some players and gauge that way. Thanks for the input, I'm thinking 3.0 now.
     
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  7. tennis_ocd

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    Steady backhand, 3 lessons, tall, fast, decent at net? If she were only male she'd be on here telling us about her 110 mph first, wrecking shop in norcal boys 10U green ball and how she'd take sets off lower ranked ATP guys.
     
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  8. OrangePower

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    Let's see... early 30's, tall, fast, and played some in HS.
    My expectation is that she will improve fast.
    So definitely not 2.5.
    Hard to make the call between 3.0 and possibly 3.5 without seeing her play. Also, she sounds like someone who might initially do better at singles based on steady BH and athleticism... she more interested in singles or doubles.
    So I would recommend 3.0 and then she could always play up if she has improved sufficiently towards the end of the season.
     
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  9. Cindysphinx

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    Definitely not 2.5. Because she played in high school, it would be a self-rate violation for her to go under 3.0.

    I would start her at 3.0.

    The reason is that I see players like what you describe at 3.5, and they don't do very well. Players at 3.5 know exactly how to deal with the Young Wild Opponents. Just keep it in play and wait for the errors. Better yet, hit a paceless ball and saunter to the net and wait for her to crush it into the back fence.

    Although she may do well in singles, being wild on the FH will not serve her well at all in 3.5 singles. People will just hit to her FH and wait her out.

    She should work on solid mechanics (especially FH and volleys) at 3.0, IMHO.
     
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  10. keithfival

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    This all sounds right. That's what I was worried about - her being an error machine at 3.5. Thanks!
     
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  11. Govnor

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    3.0. She'll pick it up again quick.
     
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  12. gmatheis

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    Depends on when, if it was over 15 years ago it's not a violation. OP said she was in early 30s. So if she's about 33 that would be 15 years.

    OP also said she MISSES 4 out of 5 forehands.
     
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  13. BHBeguile

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    To be honest, she sounds like me (though I'm a bit older and my FH is a bit more reliable). My instructor told me I was a 3 but that I could play with anyone who claimed to be 3.5 because everyone self-rates a half level higher.
     
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  14. silentkman

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    just because she played in high does not mean she is a 3.0. Some high school players are just horrible. You have players at some the elite tennis high schools where the number 7 player can beat the number one at another school without breaking a sweat. Tournaments are better than leagues anyway.
     
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  15. Cindysphinx

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    Yes. At 3.0, it is common for a player to miss 4 out of 5 off of their weaker wing. Usually, this is the BH, but 3.5 players will notice the bad FH, especially if she misses by overhitting.

    Seriously, 2.5 is for people who barely know how to play. I started as a 2.5 and was bumped up after one year. Someone who played in high school could destroy me, even without a FH.

    Also, I think the computer is keenly calibrated to DQ 2.5s who do not belong there. If she is young and athletic and has high school experienced, she will get DQ'd straight away. Why bother?
     
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  16. Govnor

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    2.5 is a total beginner IMO. Waste of time to go that route.
     
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    I agree, is there even a 2.5 league (other than calculating for some mixed leagues where a guy can sandbag with a so-called 2.5)?

    If truly played in high school, then 3.5.
     
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