What made Djokovic so good in 2011?

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  1. SStrikerR

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    Besides PEDs, as I'm sure some of you will say. Was it consistency? Was it power? Depth? A specific shot that he hit whether that year than ever before? What allowed him to go on such a tear in 2011, winning 3 slams, beating nadal in 7 finals, and destroying nadals body so bad that it gave out in 2012?
     
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    Training, endurance, confidence, ball recognition, patience, determination, standing IN, short direct strokes, old serve motion.
     
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  3. 90's Clay

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    It seemed like every shot he threw back just skidded off the baseline.. TREMENDOUS depth on his shots
     
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    He upgraded his serve from terrible to decent. He rectified his breathing problems and modified his diet.
     
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    I cannot remember hearing where, but I recall somewhere it was said that Djokovic:
    - during AO11 was hitting the ball an average 15mph faster than in 2009-2010 season.
    - having transformed himself from one of the worst top players stamina wise, to one of the best stamina wise
     
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  6. doobiedoodoo

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    Offense instead of defense.
     
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    The serve improved a lot. I think it was the beginning of 2010 when he got a new racquet, changed his serve motion, and really kind of lost the plot for a little bit. In 2011, he got that under control, which I'm sure helped to free up the rest of his game. I think he also elevated his forehand to the level of his backhand - it was always a weapon, but it was unreliable until 2011.
     
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  8. InspectorRacquet

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    The serve and his positioning.

    Djokovic's serve is now consistent as well as powerful.

    His footwork and positioning were his best in 2011. If you compare it to today, he wasn't flopping all over the court because he set is feet too early, and he wasn't using the over-the-head finish as much, but rather a flatter over the shoulder stroke.

    Djokovic was all offense in 2011, but he's a little more complacent and willing to just play ten feet behind the baseline.
     
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    Djokovic did not just improve, he eliminated ANY possible weakness in his game. He was lethal off both sides, had the best defense and speed, and had a powerful serve as well. There was no opening for players to attack, to beat him they had to simply outplay him on every point.
     
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    When the fitness was right, he had the mental strength to believe he could go 100% the entire match and it was truly never over until his opponent converted a match point.

    In the past, he would have lost to Belluci in Madrid, Murray in Rome, and Federer at the US Open.

    Instead of 3 losses, he got 3 titles in those events.

    Couple that with beating Nadal...which was another issue of simply having the fitness to go 20-30 stroke rallies, or however many it took..for however long it took.
     
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    This, I'd just add the depth of his shots, especially off the FH side.
     
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    Everything. Full stop.
     
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    Nope, the opposite, in 2011 he started grinding everyone down - including Nadal. Previously he tried to out-hit everyone.
     
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    The egg. Hmmm
     
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    His extreme fitness and speed around the court and his ability to absorb the opponents power balls and hit it back deep and even sting the opponent when they go for a winner and present an open court.

    He also improved his serve or at least got rid of the problems that was created when he started tinkering with it.
     
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    He didn't seem to hit the ball hard at this years AO at all.
     
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  17. SStrikerR

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    Good answers so far. But my main question is what did he do in 2011 that made him unbeatable that year, whereas in the years before and this past year his level was lower. Maybe in 2012 it wasn't much lower, but he wasnt as dominant in 2011. So what did he do in that ONE SPECIFIC YEAR that he hadnt done before, and hasn't replicated since?
     
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    He got rid of his recurring physical issues and started hitting clean and deep off both sides. His FH wasn't exactly terrific in the past, in fact it's where most players pressed him and even today, when he has a bad day, his FH is likely to go first. Even on the run, he seems better on the BH side. Also, once he ditched Martin, his serve started seeing a comeback.

    The real breakthrough, and this is something that A LOT more players should be doing, was to stop thinking of himself as a follower to Fed and Nadal. For too long, he was thought of(and probably thought this himself) as that funny guy that has talent but who is always behind Fedal.

    With him finally beating Fed in USO(where Fed gave him quite a bit of heartache before) 2010, pushing Nadal in the final and winning DC for his country, he was given the right mental fuel for the push in 2011. Vajda said that the turning point for Djoko was losing to Melzer in RG 2010, where he had a 2 set lead and blew it, something which is unthinkable for today's Djokovic.

    A lot of Djoko's present mental strength stems from the fact that he knows what it was like to be nr.3 in mens tennis for quite some time and now that he can best(most times at least) the guys that used to torment him on different surfaces, he doesn't plan on going back to the older, weaker Djokovic.

    You won't ever see Djokovic kicking himself like this after a loss again:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpJnt0SLKk (after losing in Madrid 2009)

    Now he accepts that he can do better even after tough losses. What did he do after losing in RG 2011? Won WB 2011. After USO 2012? Won AO 2013.
     
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    It was just that People didnt expect him to be that mentally tough and have enough stamina to compete in the big matches given his past history and that took people by surprise. Plus he was coming off a davis cup win and he was focused, moving great, gluten free diet, improved his breathing. But now people are slowly getting used to the level he's on. Explains why his 2012 was not as dominant as his 2011. Also novak typically is a very slow starter thats why you need to get that first set under your belt or your toast. Hes never lost in two years after winning the first. Rafa found his game on clay and pushed it, Fed used variety on grass to beat and came out ultra aggressive and firing, and smoked novak before he could get any rhythm and when he did it was too late. Same with Murray got up 2 sets and Novak started slow in the 5th and Murray took advantage.
     
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    Ridiculous depth. It was astounding.
     
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    He improved on everything - serve, groundstrokes, stamina etc, and reversed the trend against players who were dominating him - in a matter of a few months. Every tennis player would like to do that, it's just that only Djok figured out how to do that.
     
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    It would be nice if there was a chart to compare his depth throughout the past say, 3 seasons.
     
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    Serve was fixed, hugely improved stamina gave him the confidence to grind out long points and not pull the trigger too early in rallies, improved forehand, movement, and most importantly confidence; he was on a huge roll after winning the Australian Open and winning begets winning.
     
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    Ask Lance:D
     
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    Everything, but mental toughness and fighting for every possible point really stuck out to me. Technical wise he had a ton of depth with his shots, and returned great. His movement improved as well as his serve too.
     
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