what ntrp is the lock and roll guy?

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by pushing_wins, Jul 31, 2011.

  1. Limpinhitter

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    To be clear, IMO, pointing the racquet face to the side fence is the simpler, more repeatable, approach. I'm not sure why so many pros, and juniors, turn their racquet faces to the back fence on the backswing. But, it seems ubiquitous. Many Federer imitators also point their racquet faces to the ground on the backswing. Another idiosyncrasy I don't understand. Perhaps it gives them more room for acceleration, or more room for wrist roll. But, it also adds a variable to the swing that has to be accounted for.

    Having said that, would you be kind enough to explain a bit more about what you mean by "delay in the arm and racquet swing."

    Thanks!
     
  2. Playnice

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    Tae makes a very important point here. MTM, for example, advocates emulating the pros on a gradient scale of difficulty, beginning with no backswing on groundstrokes so the player feels power from contact to the finish, then allowing the player to add some takeback naturally as his control and strength increases. To teach a big loop or takeback from the beginning would be like teaching a new driver to put his foot all the way to the floor then slam on the brakes - there would be plenty of power but no control. Better to start slowly and gently, getting the "feel" of the foot on the accelerator and the brake then gradually increasing pressure as control is achieved.
     
  3. Migelowsky

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    I think what he means is that the hips and shoulder start to swing forward before the arm, wrist and racket. There is a delay on the kinetics that
    transfers the energy to the last link of the chain ( the tip of the racket ).
     
  4. LockandRollTennis

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    Migelowsky, you described it well. Thanks
     
  5. mhj202

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    I realize that this a long abandoned thread but I just stumbled across and it thought that it was cool that there was a thread about my old friend Tae.

    Also, for those who are considering whether or not to sign-up for Lock and Roll Tennis, I can personally verify that FedExpress's post above is pretty much dead-on-- Tae was a badass player back in the day and has always been a student of the game. I can still remember what a weapon his serve was and how impressively quick and fluid his movement was. Even in college, he was always thinking about and working on his technique, footwork and even the physiology/kinesiology of tennis.

    The only thing that confuses me is that I could've sworn that Tae had a one-handed backhand in college but my memory could be failing me -- it has been a long time.
     
  6. Limpinhitter

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    He still has a 1hb that he demonstrates on his website. IMO, his 2hb is a shade better.
     
  7. mhj202

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    Thanks Limpinhitter.

    I remember now that Tae could hit a 2-hander and a 1-hander-- I think that he used a 2hb as a junior and had just transitioned to a 1hb in college. Guess he moved back to the 2hb.
     
  8. Limpinhitter

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    Thanks for your confirmation on what a good player he was, and what a good coach he is.
     
  9. SystemicAnomaly

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    I beg to differ. Tae's serve form is excellent but I have seen some 4.5 players (and even a few 4.0 guys) with this kind of form. OTOH, I've seen plenty of 4.5 & 5.0+ players with weird little hitches or quirks in their motion.

    While it obvious that Tae played at a level that was much higher than this, the high-level serve form on this video is not absolute proof of this.
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  10. eric draven

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    Thanks for posting the vid. I really enjoy your instructional videos. As for how you looked in this video? You may have, by your own admission, appeared sluggish and slow but you can't fake that footwork. There were a few times you really took a crack at the forehand too. To me it's obvious you're a high level player.
     
  11. ChickBowdrie

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    Hey Lock N Roll, where in Irvine do you teach? I work off Jamboree and El Camino Real. Do you teach near by there?

    I'd like to swing by and see one of your sessions if that's okay with you!
     
  12. GuyClinch

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    Tae looks like a 5.5 to me - hits as well as most of the good young teach pros. I totally dig the guys style. I feel there are so many guys that hit great - but they don't have any way of bringing that to a less talented athlete. But what this guy says makes sense and seems to help me.

    If I am ever in that area - I will take a lesson with him..
     
  13. sabala

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    Maybe this will bring back memories for ya?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uHFwKb6unk&feature=related
     
  14. LockandRollTennis

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    Mike Jo!!=) It's been a while! The mention of your name brings back some fond memories! You were like a older brother to me when I was a young Freshmen in College. Hope everything is going well with you! It looks like you are still involved in the game.

    BTW, I just emailed your brother.

    I did have a One Hander throughout my college career (You still have your memories correct). I started to experiment with the Two Hand BH during my last season in college tennis. I struggled with the transition for several years.

    I just came back from Indian Wells (BNP Paribas Tournament) in Palm Springs. I've got some great footage of Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and many other top players. I'll be posting on YouTube very soon!

    Let me know when you come out to SoCal. Let's get together and hit some!
     
  15. mhj202

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    Awesome to find you bro.

    I'm gonna take you up on hitting in So Cal. I'm out there fairly regularly- my bro lives there and the company I work for owns a couple resorts (with tennis courts!) in San Diego, Carlsbad and Palm Springs so we'll definitely have to get some court time in!

    Looking forward to catching up in person!
     
  16. sportsfan1

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    Just came across this, interesting read in how the thread panned out :). Got to refresh on some of the videos I had watched months ago. Great job by L&R and FYB!
     
  17. LockandRollTennis

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    Definitely! Let me know when you are around!
     

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