What ntrp would these two be? (video)

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  1. unorthodox stringing

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    Do you think both are playing to ntrp 3.5? Or better? Or worse?

    What would be some areas of improvements for both of them? For ease of reference, one's wearing a cap, the other's not.

    The video ended with a bull's eye! :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfpygSwgkP0
     
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  2. SpinToWin

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    looks like 3.0 to me. At this stage you cannot speak of specifics to work on as the whole game needs improvement. Two standout features that were missing though were the backhand and the footwork.
     
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  3. dave t

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    I would say 3.0. Most of the true 3.5s I know would either be more consistent/have better placement with those type of strokes or they would hit bigger/better strokes but make a decent amount of errors. Serves are also pretty weak.
     
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  4. mightyrick

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    I watched about one minute of it. This looks 3.0 to me.
     
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  5. anubis

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    2.5 in my area. I was a 3.0 for two years and even the worst 3.0s that I played would beat either of these players with ease. I think they should self-rate at 2.5 and get some match experience and confidence before playing 3.0.

    There's nothing worse than self rating too high and getting steamrolled. That's just no fun.
     
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  6. caugas

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    3.0 in my opinion.
     
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  7. Chotobaka

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    God, I love the acoustics of courts like this. Reminds me of the enclosed court at Tops'l. These guys could be so much better if they just went for it. Paddycake 3.0's.
     
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  8. Cup8489

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    Agreed on the acoustics. It's one of the main reasons I love playing indoors. Hit an 80 mph serve.. sounds like a cannon. I love it.

    Video: 3.0 IMHO. I would beat them, but only because i can hit more consistently than them most likely. My footwork is crap too.
     
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  9. movdqa

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    Beautiful court that they were playing on.

    I have a 3.5 pusher friend that would destroy these two guys.

    These guys do seem to be in pretty good shape but it looks like they haven't been playing very long. They could probably benefit considerably with lessons and practice.
     
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  10. Dimcorner

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    I would guess low 3.0's. Most rallies end in about 3 shots from a easy unforced error.
     
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  11. Topspin Shot

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    I'll go with 3.0.
     
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  12. LeeD

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    Unanimous 3.0 rating, but they can lose first round every time in 3.5's.
     
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  13. goober

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    They look like beginners or perhaps guys who play tennis a couple times a year for years but minimal or no lessons or real practice. The guy serving at least is not pancaking it in. They would both lose to a consistent 3.0 though.
     
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  14. Overdrive

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    On the opposite side, people who don't play in outdoor courts find the echos annoying.
     
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  15. navigator

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    Probably 3.0... great court!
     
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  16. GuyClinch

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    3.0. I don't think very strong 3.0 either. I think Suresh might be able to beat those guys..

    But again 3.0 is not really that bad.. Its not some human disaster that people make it out to be. I like the guys serve - got some spin on it..nice.

    I know OP - you guys think you don't look much worse then 3.5 - and that's true. 3.0 doesn't look much worse then 3.0 and 4.0 doesn't look that much better then 3.5. But 3.5s just beat all the 3.0s all the time. That's the major difference.
     
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  17. unorthodox stringing

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    Thanks! I agree with all of the comments here.

    Appreciate everybody's help in clarifying the playing levels.

    :)
     
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  18. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Didn't pick up a rolling ball coming back at you...

    Automatic NTRP 1.0 deduction.
     
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  19. SoBad

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    Once they start playing 2 or 3 times a year, their level will increase dramatically. Nice tropical court.
     
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  20. Mr.Lob

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    Guy in cap a weak 3.0. No cap guy a little better 3.
     
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  21. PMChambers

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    i agree with posters on level.

    Go to a pro coach and get you're serve going, it takes about 2-3 month and you'l go to 3.5 just in serve alone. Image you're opponent returning only 50% of your you're serves, then work on the ground shots. Get some coaching on the serve, ignore the rest until you have a weapon, then work on short balls and volleys. That will get you to 4.5, big serve and win the short balls. Pressure, pressure and more pressure. Never lose you're serve or a short shot and ask you're opponent to beat you.
     
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  22. movdqa

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    I was hitting two-on-one with a high-school coach against a high-school player (#1) and we were trying to get him to focus on keeping the ball in play and he had trouble keeping it in play to the targeted area (beyond the service line) for more than three shots. Granted we were pushing him somewhat but his focus should have been on consistency and less about hitting with pace and spin. The coach later said to me that he doesn't understand why teenagers think that getting 50% of balls back is acceptable.

    So some practice where you try to keep a rally going as long as you can would help here.
     
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  23. BMC9670

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    Their true level is really going to depend on their TT post-count.
     
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  24. goober

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    The funny part is that he had enough time to look down move the ball and still have time to set up for a shot because they were hitting so slow:). But I like his serve for a 3.0. He just needs to add some power but already has some spin.
     
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