what phone for 2014?

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  1. movdqa

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    I try to optimize what I do but I'm pragmatic.

    I was using an iPhone and a Nexus 7 and wanted a way to be able to modify notes from multiple systems. I tried iCloud Notes and was able to update notes from the N7 but performance wasn't good because I had to use the browser - and that only worked when I was connected. So I tried Google Keep. Same problem - worked fine on Android but I could only access it through a browser on iOS. There's a huge request page on Google+ asking for Google Keep on iOS. It's been there for years and Google's response is to use the web browser. My response was to buy an iPad Mini and stop using the Nexus 7. Problem solved. Google Keep doesn't have any advertising so Google doesn't have an incentive to port it to iOS.

    There are advantages and disadvantages to both platforms. At the moment, I prefer iOS overall to Android and I've made a commitment to that effect for the next two years.

    If you can't decide, you can always just flip a coin.
     
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    I think your analogy with the Jaguar is off but I get your point. By the way, Camera Roll is apparently coming back. For those of you looking to buy the new iPhone without ordering. It tracks availability in stores:

    iStockNow.com
     
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    No your mistake is you assume I see those things as design flaws. I do not - YOU do. A switch that instantly silents my phone is not a design flaw for example.

    If I have my phone set to make noise then I don't care if it makes noise. If I flip the switch to make it silent then it goes silent. You are petty and need everything to work exactly how you want it. It should be apparent now that nobody at Apple Samsung...etc really cares what YOU want since you still have not been able to pick a phone after months of waffling back and forth over a $200 device.

    You are indecisive, obsessed and apparently wear skinny jeans at the age of 50+. Are we sure you are not a divorced cougar who got a nice pay out and now sits around her house whining about petty nonsense?
     
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    My mom kicks back with her Nexus and the TV on and scatter trolls Facebook animal pictures all day.

    I think OP is my Mom but in an Android Troll Format.

    I actually want to try an S5. I just wish T-Mobile would take it back if I block it.

    But what if I liked it? Then what? Dine on Suresh's gooch? Destroy LeeD?
     
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    I just may!

    I actually plan on dealing with this for real in a week or two. Might try out the G2 for two weeks, then trade for an iphone 6 if I don't love it.

    Don't love camera roll, or photo streaming. Just give me one of them.

    Sorry, but if you don't think being able to permanently silence a pointless and confusing noise you never want to hear is a design flaw, you are seriously brainwashed by the Apple cult. I can't understand why you rabid iphoners can't do what some of the more rational iphoners can do, which is say something like "Yes, I admit that's a stupid design flaw. Of course you should be able to turn off that annoying sound permanently. But Android has some flaws too, and overall I prefer iphone" or whatever. Why deny the obvious and defend the ridiculous?

    It's thinking like that that prevents Apple from completely dominating the market -- they're just too stupid and too stubborn in too many areas.


    You Apple heads really roll out the personal insults when you're losing an argument, huh? Between you and other iphone guys I've been called about a dozen names and been pelted with numerous insults. What's with that? How old are you guys?

    As mentioned, yes, I'm about to turn 52. Would you rather me wear me baggy mom jeans than slim fitting ones I'm trim and fit enough wear well just because I'm a certain age? Would that you make happy? But more to the point, why are you concerning yourself at all with what I wear? What's with that?

    If you really are so interested in my wardrobe and critical of what it contains, I suggest you take it up with girlfrlend or my best female pal -- between the two of them they picked out just about everything I own. I'd sure they'd love to hear Power Player from Talk Tennis's opinion on what clothes I should wear.
     
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    I've never understood the issue with men being stylish or God forbid, wearing skinny jeans. They're currently in style. Ironically, it's historically been an Android argument against the iPhone crowd "you can't have a big screen because it won't fit in your hipster jeans."

    Anyway, I actually like the mute switch. I find it useful, because 99% of the time I'm on vibrate, but I like being able to quickly know if I'm muted without turning the phone on. If I'm in meetings, etc. I'll have my phone out, and at a glance I know it will just vibrate rather than ring out loud.
     
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    Defintley the former.

    And the OP does sound like she could be your Mom. But does your Mom need to declare herself the winner of an internet phone disccusion? Probably not. She is much more regal than that.
     
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    Does "in style" equate to "stylish"? Not necessarily. Skinny jeans are a trend driven style, much like another horrible look, the super baggy, boxer exposing jeans. They are highly market niche as well - primarily the dominion of the scrawny/waifish caucasian male hipster or hipster-in-training. Hope that helps clear things up.

    heycal, betcha' didn't think the trail to your new smartphone would be so flush with darts and stones and arrows. People get really weird about their phones and it's actually much worse in other forums dedicated to the topic. Not too dissimilar to the Roger vs. Rafa vs. Djoko crap one can see here.

    I'll keep an eye out if you give the G2 a test run. Maybe I'll be able to answer some questions about setting up or troubleshooting your phone.
     
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    The funny thing is that I don't really see anyone besides heycal and a few randoms being weird about their phones in this thread.

    Phone forums are unreadable though. It's scary.
     
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    I think that I'm just about adapted to the i6 now. The case arrives today and that should fix any minor clumsiness issues that remain. It's a much, much better phone than the i5 in terms of size, sensors and the OS is nice despite a minor nuisance in WiFi pickup in the office that will probably get fixed in 8.1.

    I'm actually liking the idea of 64 GB of space as I've spent a little time caching Google Maps data for an upcoming trip. The i6 will be a backup device for my Garmin Nuvi. I'm considering caching a wide area around where I live and the places that we frequent so that Google Maps is a lot faster. Apple Maps caches as well but I don't think that you can specifically pick areas to cache. Google Maps allows you to pick regions and then name them so that you can have confidence that the maps are there when you need them. Ideally it would be nice to cache states and country regions but I don't think that they have a mechanism for that. It would allow you to use your device as a GPS without using up your cellular data.
     
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    We can debate the pros and cons of a mute switch, but it's not really related to the issue I'm discussing, which is the pointless and annoying outgoing sound iphone makes when you send a text. Sure, you can kill it manually each time if you remember to mute before you press send and then unmute if you want your phone to be on ring/ping (as I do most of the time), but I'd hardly term having to do that all day long every day for months on end "convenient".

    All kidding aside, my jeans are slim, not true skinny. My 14 year old nephew wears true skinny jeans, and they make my trim ones look like your mom jeans in comparison. As I said above, I let girlfriends or women friends guide my fashion choices as a 51 year old male in good shape; I don't trust myself to dress me, and I don't trust GQ to dress me.



    Geez, I know! These boys are nutty, huh?

    The G2 remains the android to beat for me, and the iphone 6 is probably the iphone to beat. I hope to be able to deal with holding a larger phone so my old eyes can better see what's on the screen. I'd rather save pulling out the glasses to read the clothing tags at Forever 21 to make sure I'm getting extra slim fit jeans not just regular slim fit.
     
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    I hate phone sounds, so my iPhone is almost always on mute. It is amusing how arguments about a phone can get heated.
     
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    It is. Despite the iPhone having to reload Apps because of only having 1 GB of RAM, it still beat out the Android phones, maybe because of the better CPU or lighter-weight operating system. Still it might be a good argument for Apple to bump up the RAM to 2 GB in the future.

    The difference with TouchWiz was really amazing. I had no idea that it was such a performance hog. I'll stick to Pure Android for our Android devices every day of the week.
     
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    What is this "caching of maps"? Sounds like something I could use when travelling out of my well covered LTE area. This summer, a friend of mine was trying to set me up with the nav app he uses. I forget the name as I have since deleted it, but the way it was supposed to work was I download a map, then it's in my phone no matter if I have data coverage or not, and gps would guide me around. Well, I'll just say it worked better for my friend than it worked for me. If I could load regional maps from Goole Maps and still use GPS guidence when I'm out of data range, well that might make me downright giddy. :grin:

    So this whole time you've just been trying to say you wear pants that fit? Congratulations and welcome to the 21st Century.

    For the record, my go to jeans are Levis 527, or something of similar style. I leave the mom jeans on the shelf for the President, when he comes home to shop.
     
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    I'm trying to score a Plus before PP's order arrives. This is a cool site to check availability:

    http://www.istocknow.com/
     
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    Speaking of jeans, I'm seeing headlines that they want to make bigger pockets now for I6 users.
     
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    Not unlike the Roger, Rafa, Nole... arguments here.

    I have both iOS and Android devices. In a nutshell Apple is more polished (Ha!) and Android is more flexible in my experience.

    What I do find annoying is the closed ecosystems for app + media purchases (game console model). My Adobe Lightroom licence is good for both Windows and Mac. The CDs and Blu Rays I purchase can play on any manufacturer's player, etc... I know music purchases can work on both but not without some effort.
     
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    Yes, I have always said things like Touchwiz and all the bloat on the droids was a killer. I always rooted my droid phone, which was a massive pain because of the updates required all the time.

    Samsung loves to brag about their hardware, but notice they never say anything about Touchwiz. If they stripped the phone down to the core OS, the phone would be even better, but then they couldn't sell major companies bloatware installs.

    Nothing sucked worse than having a Sprint Cup NASCAR app on my new HTC when I pulled it out of the box.


    LOL. Amazing.
     
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    http://www.imore.com/how-cache-maps-offline-use-google-maps-20-ios
     
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    I'm in COMPLETE agreement and live in the same world. I have both a desktop PC and an iMac at home as well as Macbook Pro and a Dell Latitude Notebook (for work). My phone is a Galaxy S3 but I use an iPod Touch 3G for portable music.

    Speaking specifically to the phone conversation, it was the closed ecosystem of the Apple products, in particular, that forced me away from my iPhone years ago. I was living in and traveling to some remote places where having a replaceable battery is a very real "1st world problem". No Apple stores. No certified Apple retailers within 50 miles. No certified Apple product repair locations. With my cell phone being my only phone, like many, it is lifeline of sorts. With the Android platform, it suits my needs from a software flexibility standpoint (rooting) and accessible hardware. After rooting my phone, I removed the customary bloatware and my GS3 absolutely flies.

    The one thing Apple does well is create a cohesive experience throughout their products that has not been duplicated yet. They do interact fairly seamlessly with each other and aestethically they always look good.
     
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    Well many people think "tapered leg" jeans on men are "skinny" jeans. True skinny jeans on men are reserved for rockers and Russell brand. Normal, stylish jeans you'd see in GQ would struggle to fit a phablet most likely.
     
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    I wear tapered jeans. Big difference to me from Skinnies.

    The worst was when the true skinny jean craze hit and these hipster fat guys were squeezing into them looking like idiots. It really was a feminine look that did not work if you were not very skinny.
     
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    I put the case on it (Supcase Unicorn Beetle) and it really feels great now. I don't have the problem with feeling like I'm going to drop it now. The sides of the case are stickier than the sides of the i6 and this case provides a lot of protection without being super-thick. My son's case is a gel inner case and a plastic outer case. This is a rubber case on the sides, plastic on the back and a plastic screen on the front. There are retractable rubber things to seal the ports but I may cut off the Lightning port as the rubber things are a bit of a pain and I normally don't operate it in dirty environments. I'll have to decide on whether or not I want to use the belt holster clip - I normally don't wear a belt (all of my belts are too big now). The front screen protection may be nice but I've never had an issue there and the clear plastic piece already provides protection.
     
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    Ooh, just checked and they have a Plus at the Best Buy 15 minutes away. It will probably get snagged before I can get over there anyways. Hunting for a phone is much more fun than just ordering a phone. :)
     
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    Good, American GQ makes me laugh with what they think fashion is :)

    Esquire UK is the place to read.
     
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    If you hate phone sounds, don't you have a major issue with iphones making an unneccesarily and annoying noise when you SEND a text? Sure, you can create workarounds, but why is there at all, and why can't you turn it off permanently and still have your phone ping on incoming texts?

    So stupid.

    I don't think I've been trying to "say" anything this "whole time". I can't remember how it originally came up, but you are the one who generally brings it up and calls them skinny jeans. When I do so, I'm just playing along.

    I'll check the number of my Levi's and get back you to all. Stay tuned!

    Pretty much. Though if I could add one more word to each it would be "polished and limited" and "ugly and flexible".

    This too.

    I think listening to real world women is smarter than what any magazine might tell you. Who knows what their agenda might be, or who's doing the recommending and why?

    Speaking of which, I recently read up and suits and ties and formal dressing in advance of purchasing a new suit to replace the ancient one I owned in order to attend a wedding, and just to have a decent suit in general for future occasions. If you believe the internet and various style websites, men should be wearing pocket squares, and generally are these days -- it's practically a must for the well-dressed man in 2014. Then, at the wedding yesterday, among which there were several fashionable men, I saw only 3 out of a 100 male guests wearing them. (It might have been 4 had I not left forgotten mine at the hotel.)
     
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    Visited London for the weekend, played with both iP6 and 6+.
    The bigger one is a bit too big for me (even though i can play with the L5 racquet). If they had iP6 is space gray, i would have probably get it, they didn't so i can wait for the new Nexus device ;-) I would love for Apple to trim the freakin bezels and put a 5-5.5 screen in a smaller phone.
     
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    I don't have an issue with that because like I said "I hate phone sounds, so my iPhone is almost always on mute." It's hard to be annoyed with sounds I can't hear!
     
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    Mikeler on mute?
     
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    Went shopping with my daughter yesterday for a case for her new iPhone 5. She was amazed at how many places sell cases for a two-year old phone. She was even more amazed that there were cases for the iPhone 4* models.

    When we went to shop for a case for her old phone, we went to Best Buy and there was one case for her model. Sometime after that when she broke her case, she told me that she couldn't find cases for that model anymore. It felt like we could walk 30 yards at the mall and run into a kiosk with iPhone cases. Same thing with retail stores.
     
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    I can't hear you.
     
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    I discovered another iOS 8 annoyance. I'm a big fan of tabbed browsing. When you click on a link and press Open in Background, the new page used to load quickly in the background. Now it seems to slow down the original page where you clicked Open in Background.
     
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    My one remaining complaint on iOS 8 is that I don't get the chance to save WiFi passwords on my device at the office. The new algorithm uses the router setting for whether or not the password should be saved and it will retry the password on its own. Sometimes it succeeds and sometimes it fails moving from router to router and this is annoying. It may have something to do with the MAC address obfuscation too. I would just rather it always ask me if I want to remember the password - the new automated method sometimes saves me from entering the saved password and it does it transparently but it's a pain if it doesn't work because then I have to go to my desk to retrieve the password.
     
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    You only read me. I'm flattered.


     
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    I've used my iPhone 6 for 2 weeks and am actually going back to my Galaxy S5. I'm missing the extra battery life, multitasking abilities and some of my widgets. A lot of my iPhone apps aren't even working properly too so even though it's slower at opening apps, it's still my favorite device of the moment.
     
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    Can you imagine a fashion thread on here? Would be even more entertaining than this one :)

    As for listening to women, in my experience they preach their personal tastes and are heavily influenced by what is supposedly fashionable today, things that attractive musicians and the like wear. A few months back a girl told me men should be wearing slim t shirts with large graphic print or patterns on them, and trousers rolled up so you can see his ankles (no socks). That's what she likes and alot of people seem to be doing today, but it's not really for me.

    Esquire UK highlight the best of the classics, tailoring and spending extra on quality materials etc.. if your clothes fit right and they're made out of nice materials (no trousers bunching up at the bottom and made out of teflon), they'll last you forever and always be in fashion.
     
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    That's my experience too, i'm moving everything back to my S5 some time this week. The iPhone is just too restrictive for me to enjoy properly, that and the most popular apps still not being properly upgraded for the bigger screen has been a let down. That'll come soon, but there are too many great options out there for me to be messaging people on whatsapp and have it look like i'm using a phone from 5-10 years ago.
     
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    I used to work on Firefox and people did complain about whether or not a page loaded in 500 ms or 1 second. There were actually delays in place as you didn't want to start rendering until you had at least a decent idea of the overall page layout.

    From a practical perspective, it didn't really matter if it was 500 ms or 2 seconds.
     
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    That's my take as well.

    I have three suits that I had made in Singapore a few decades ago and a few other quality suits that fit and it would make for a good base if I needed to wear suits to the office.

    Overall, quality classic clothes that fit are comfortable and don't detract from your overall appearance and knowing that you look good and feel comfortable allows you do deal with the work at hand without distraction.
     
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    What phone for 2014 for Bart?
     
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    Another easy to way to avoid hearing that sound is to leave the phone off entirely. Or one could carry ear plugs and use them when pressing send.

    Sorry, but having to leave the phone on vibrate as a workaround to a design flaw is not a viable real-world solution. (My Mac Air has a similar problem, btw. When you press the power button to turn it on, it makes a loud beep that I don't think can be turned off. Great for libraries and other quiet places! So glad they added this helpful feature -- I mean, how would I know the computer was on if it didn't have a loud sound to tell me so??)

    What's your point? Did I miss some earlier post that this is in response to?

    You care about something like this, but not the much bigger problems iPhone has??

    I don't listen to women blindly, avoid extreme looks of any kind, and I use checks and balances. I will veto things I absolutely hate, and I'm also wary of items that my female BFF likes and my GF doesn't, and vice versa. I prefer when they're both onboard with something I own. My daughter is an occasional fail-safe as well. (When she told me my 'skinny' jeans were not skinny jeans at all, it was official!) These are three females of all different ages and backgrounds, and I know I've got a winning piece of clothing if it works for all demographics.

    That said, the women I'm most trying to please are the ones I haven't met yet. As I joke with with female bff: "I'm not trying to please you or the gf -- I've already got you two regardless of what I'm wearing. I'm trying to attract new p**sy!"

    The key thing I've discovered much too late in life when it comes to clothing is that clothes that fit one well are often more important than what the clothing actually is. Too often in the past I've worn things that were too big for me, and I think many males make that mistake. (Sounds like you've already figured this one out though.)
     
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    Exactly right. Something as simple as a button down shirt, so many people get wrong. One that fits perfectly and is made out of a beautiful material will lift any suit, you can wear it casually, layer it etc.. Getting sucked into what people are wearing now is usually fools gold. Simple is often the hardest to get right, but it pays off for sure.
     
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    Sounds like you have the right approach :)

    You're right, the fit is the most important. You could have something great in itself, but if it looks like a tent on you then it's a disaster.

    Personally it's tough for me as i'm a powerlifter, i've got big shoulders and a very wide back, but i'm a 28 inch waist. Things that fit me round the shoulders are way too big around the middle. Same for having big thighs but a small waist. Most of my stuff has to be tailored, so it's basically just picking which materials i like and have it made to fit. Off the rack is never really an option.
     
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    My bff is very big on picking clothes that work with one's own coloring, something that would have never occured to me on my own. I ended up getting a slate grey suit instead of the blue I preferred because she insisted it was a better choice for my coloring. But I did use my checks and balances system too -- I made sure both the 70 year old saleslady and her cute 22 year old assistant both agreed with the color choice as well before I said ok.
     
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    Smart. I never had anything tailored beyond my one suit when I first got it until I was almost 50 years old. Now I'll do it for other clothes from time to time.

    It was interesting to enter this strange world of suits and ties recently, since I've never had to wear them, and only had the one old suit. Now that I've delved in and gotten a decent suit and some nice ties, I'm all pumped to wear it. But sadly it's almost never needed.
     
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    I got light gray, dark gray and navy for the suits that I had made and those three colors should be good enough for almost all work and wedding/funeral-type occasions. Coloring is important (less so than fit), but the range of colors for men is a lot simpler to manage as you just have suit, ties, shoes and shirt. If you're just starting out with a few pieces on shirts, then you just need to get pieces that don't stand out. The shoes should go with the suit which is why I only have on brown suit (haven't worn it in decades as it's a winter weight and it might be too big for me now). I also don't own a pair of brown shoes today.
     

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