what phone for 2014?

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  1. heycal

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    Realized I could try these phones out much closer to my house than I thought, so I guess I will now be doing that every night for the next six months or so…

    Took another look at the iphone 5, the G2, and Samsung 4 tonight. Even though it was the smallest, the iphone seemed the easiest to type on and provided the best visuals for text messages and emails. Both of the other keyboards seemed nightmare-ish -- but that could partly be because they did not have autocorrect/autosuggestion enabled like the iphone did. Seemed like I could literally not type one word on the Samsung. G2 had the additional problem of my finger hitting the home button instead of the space bar above it and knocking me out of messaging a few times.

    G2 felt a little bulky tonight, Samsung 4 a bit better. Bottom row icons on G2 really do not seem as big as the iphone icons.

    Very annoyed that I couldn't just lower the volume all the way to silent on the iphone, but would need to either flip the switch or go into settings to completely silence it. On my current phone, I can simply press the volume key on the side of the phone and move quickly and seamlessly between ring volume, vibrate and completely silent in about 1 second. No additional buttons or screens or settings. Is there really no easy and fast way to go back and forth between these three choices on the iphone?

    None of the phones vibration strengths impressed me. All too weak. Samsung perhaps the strongest. Iphone maybe the lamest, and with no adjustable strength.

    It's flaws aside, iphone might be moving into the lead as of right now...
     
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    is this new IPhone 6 going to be as big as they say ? and when is Apple releasing this wonderful phone ?
     
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    Don't overlook wireless charging as a gimmick. I have a base on my nightstand. Nice to be able to check messages, go over the next days calendar, set alarms and reminders etc and just place it on the matt afterwards to wake up to a fully charged phone. No fumbling with cables in the dark.

    I also rigged one for my car. Get in, set the phone down on my center console. Seamless hands free and music via Bluetooth while the phone is charging... Look ma... No cables. Its very nice.

    For extra credit, place NFC tags on the charging bases to automatically adjust the ringer, vibration and other profile attributes. BTW... I'm also using NFC + Google wallet to pay for groceries, gas, etc... The local merchants are finally getting around to implementing wireless payments. Look ma... No credit cards.

    The nexus 5 is my daily driver these days... I like Android without the bloat. I too would pass on the GS5... And also the iPhone 5s if you can wait. At least until Apple reveals their big screen phone
     
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    You can change the text size on all phones. I've just tested it and changed mine to "huge", there were two words on each line of a text message! I was scrolling forever lol. The icons can be changed on Android to your preference, both size and look.

    As for reliability, I've spent more time working on people's iPhone's trying to fix things than I ever have on mine, but yeah. Trying to work out why it's deleted all their emails, why it takes forever to send a text, why it doesn't alert them everytime a message comes in, why photos aren't being sent to iCloud, why after updating the battery ran out by 3pm etc..

    The way I see it is 2 years is a long time to be stuck with something you can't change. I wouldn't buy a house and leave the other people's decoration as it was. Something as personal as a phone needs to be tweaked a bit to work for the individual. The needs of a teenage girl with her iPhone is different to a businessman for example, one system fits all isn't really how it works.

    I work in law and judges used to refuse to use text conversations from iPhone's as Apple decided to only sporadically tell you the time a message was sent or received, before they rectified that in the newest version. Teenagers don't care about those things, to a different kind of user it's something essential. Therein lies the problem with the restrictive nature of iOS.
     
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    It's not so much a particular feature, or features, will lure me back to iPhone - but what I may or may not have to give up by leaving the G2/Android for Apple's less fragmented user experience. In my limited experience with i5s/iOS7 I found a combo which was an improvement over the i4 and something I can live with and even enjoy as I get used to it. There is something to be said about a device, or even an experience, in which all components are designed to compliment one another. It's like walking into a room that has been set up by a skilled interior designer/decorator vs. one set up by the average Joe.

    I have plenty of time to see how things shake out in the smarphone battlefield, as I am happy with the G2 and won't be replacing it anytime soon. When I'm ready, I'll be debating over the i7 or the LG G4 or whatever the greatest thing since sliced bread is at that time. If I were you, I'd see if the new battery keeps your old phone viable for 4 more months, and see what Aug/Sept brings for the i6, G3, ect. Those phones might feature an electro-shock vibration setting and you'll be kicking yourself in the *** for not waiting.


    I'm with you. Call me when I can leave my phone anywhere around the house and when I come back to it, it's fully charged.

    This "wireless charging" is like gluing a pair of cardboard wings to your car, then telling people you fly.
     
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    Heycal you can lower the volume of the iPhone through the quick access menu or the volume knobs.
     
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    The reason wireless charging is popular is due to how bad the MicroUSB plug is. The Apple connector is a lot better but it's still something that you have to connect. Unfortunately the wireless charging platforms still have their issues.
     
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    This is coming... search for Wireless Energy Harvesting.

    Agree MicroUSB plug is awful (throw in HDMI in there as well). In fact all USB connectors are just awful. The 30 pin Apple connector wasn't all that better. The lightning connector is awesome. The physical technology has been around and been in use for years (paddle edge connector... check your 1980s Nintendo game cartridges)... surprising that no one else picked up on it. I am a bit disappointed that the "advanced capabilities" of this connector Apple promised 2 years are still MIA.

    You would have to throw in the mix the OnePlus:

    http://oneplus.net/

    Killer specs, Cyanogenmod, $349 for the 64GB contract free. I may just have to pick one up for myself.
     
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    Why are you asking us, Nostradamus?

    In my day we called these charging ports. My cordless home phone is sitting in one such 'wireless charging' device as we speak.

    I can see some advantage to one of these for my cell phone, so I guess it's the deceptive name of it that annoys me.

    And yet both businessmen and teenage girls seem to love their iphones. While I can find plenty of complaints and arguments about iphones in forums like these, I don't tend to come across them in the real world. I can't recall anyone ever saying to me "Gee, I sure regret getting an iphone". Most seem to either like them just fine, or love with them with a Moonie-like reverance. (Same with laptops -- I'm becoming one of these folks myself about my light as a feather Mac Air with it's all day battery power.)

    As for text size, yes, I saw how you could change it on the Samsung. But one had to choose between extra large or maximum or something, niether of which I find ideal, while iphone had a lovely cursor to slide to just exactly where you want it, Goldilocks style. Far superior.

    As for icon size, I'm not sure I checked on the samsung, but the G2 would not let me change the size of the most important icons, the ones on the bottom row of the home screen, and they are smaller than on the iphone. As for the other icons, no goldilocks feature there, either. Either normal or jumbo sized.

    And yet, if it's really true the iphone snooze button is permanently set at 9 minutes, I already want to shoot somebody and I don't even have one yet...

    I would hope so!

    My question was about looking for an easy and fast way to slip between silent, vibrate, and ring modes. Does one really need to either go into settings or flick that physical little switch on the side to even come close to doing this?

    Really? What's wrong with them? One of the appeals of avoiding an iphone is continuing to use the chargers I have around and that seem to be easily found when visiting people when you need juice in a pinch. I love that I can charge my phone with my kindle charger and vice versa, and so on and so forth. Big plus in favor of an Android phone for me.
     
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    I'm conflicted on this issue too (surprise, surprise). Part of me says "wait it out and see what's coming. Be smart about this. My current phone will get me through the summer just fine. Patience is a virtue that could pay off here." while another part of me says "Just get whatever's available now. Do I really want to be waiting for the NEXT BIG THING, and standing in line like sheep at some Apple Store in September -- or December after the phone is delayed for some reason -- only to find that Iphone 6 is too big for me or has some other aspect I can't abide by, and I end up getting the same iphone 5 six months from now that I can get next week?"
     
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    The Micro-USB is directional and the metal casing fatigues over time. I can put the Apple connector in without looking carefully.

    I just ordered my iPhone 5 online - no standing in line.
     
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    Silent - lower volume rocker to nothing or hit the switch on the side for vibrate only.

    Its really easy. Not worth getting OCD about.
     
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    The name is not deceptive. It is wireless inductive charging. No contacts or connectors. The phone has to be placed in some reasonable proximity to the charging base. I can do this half awake in the dark. For $15 or so the Nokia charging bases go for these days (with the AC plug), it's well worth it for me. Check out this application.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZo2pA0Qc9U

    Nothing wrong with the USB from an industry standard/implementation perspective. The physical implementation (connectors) is just so awful I'd have fired any engineer who designed them. How many times have you tried to plug in a USB A plug and realized that you had it upside down? There is no physical attribute that polarizes and orients the connector correctly (the 30 pin Apple connector is no better in this regard). Even the 6 sided USB B connector looks mostly square and can be easily mistaken for the wrong orientation. Worse with the microUSB connector. Couple that with the arbitrary orientation of the plugs (Nexus 4 has the flat microUSB side down, Nexus 5 has it up... really?). It's a good thing these guys didn't design power standards.... there would be scores of dead people. Just poor, incompetent design.

    The lighting physical connector is beautiful because it's simple and designed for the end user. The proprietary portion... ugly. But I can't blame Apple here. If they want to be industry standard... they'd have to go with a crappy, crappy connector.
     
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    The problem that I read about with Qi is that it stops charging once your device is charged, so it can discharge after that.
     
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    waiting for the LG G3, rumors have it to be out in america next month,
    see whats thats like, but im probably going to go with htc m8/lg g2 (dont think the g3 will be that much improved - worth the cost to g2)- since g2 is like 7-8months old
     
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    But it's not totally silent though, is it? It actually doesn't lower completely, but ALMOST completely. Listen closely and you're hear still hear it, correct? Hell, you can even see that it doen't lower completely, but really only goes down to one little bar instead of no bars at all. (At least on the iphone 5 that me and the Apple store kid were experimenting with.)

    Never noticed a problem with the USB cables. (Though I may now!) But my one experience with an apple-made charger, the one on my Mac Air, is not a good one: you even so much as look at the thing the wrong way and it can fall out.
     
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    If you hit the switch it goes totally silent.
     
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    So, you're probably not going to wait for the G3, then.
    Or you are?
    But not really...

    If you can wait, then wait. The phones available in the fall will be better than the phones available now, and if they are not, you'll get a nice deal on the older tech. The manufacturers aren't going to release lesser phones each cycle, despite the absence of the vibrate-then ring-then shout-then scream feature you pine for.

    Sounds like a poor solution for a problem which doesn't exist.
     
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    Wireless charging sounds pointless to me. More like an opportunity to pitch a concept that basically means you don't plug the phone in, but it still needs to be within 15 feet of a charger.
     
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    You have the iPhone 5, right? Do you have the black version?

    Always thought that was a beautiful looking phone, the 5s one with the black and silver never looked as good imo.
     
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    The black is nice because the screen is black when it's off.

    It feels like jewelry.
     
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    Yeah, the darkest version of the 5s doesn't look nearly as good as the 5 imo (5 is on the right). Also the black round the sides looks better to me.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Apple had very good earnings even though iPhone revenues were down. They must have sold a bunch of something else to provide great earnings - either that or they had lower costs.
     
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    My Galaxy S5 is toast. I'm heading back to my iPhone 5S. Looking forward to much rumored iPhone 6 with a 4.7 inch display come September.
     
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    Let me clarify what I'm asking and looking for and maybe you or Movda or another i5 user can clear this up. I'll use a real world scenario:

    1) I'm in an office building and have my ringer on fairly low.

    2) I have to hurry into a meeting and need to put in on vibrate pronto.

    3) I leave the meeting and walk out into a city street and want the ringer on high.

    4) All of sudden I'm sick of all the noise and don't want to talk to anyone or hear anything so I sit under a tree in central park and want my phone totally silent.

    In other words, I want to go from low ring to vibrate to high ring to COMPLETELY silent, seamlessly, easily, and quickly. You with me?

    With my current phone, I can do ALL or ANY of this by simply toggling the volume keys in a split second. Can I come close to doing the same thing with the iphone?

    Because the way I see it, if I have to go into settings/menus to do ANY of these things, in any order I choose, that is a major flaw and almost a deal breaker against the iphone. It's annoying on principle if nothing else.


    More like 15 mm within a charger. 15 feet would be great.
     
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    It's hard to argue against this logically. Let us analyze in terms of things that are important to me:

    1) What are the chances that a new iphone's screen will be a little bigger (and wider) than the current one -- but still under my personal max of 5" or so?

    Probably 70% (They could conceivably go from the current 4 inch straight to a huge 5.5 or something, which would suck).

    2) What are the odds that the battery on the new phone will be the same or even better than the current one?

    About 80%

    3) What are the odds the new phone will improve some aspect or function in a way I like?

    50%

    4) What are odds they will make something I like now worse?

    40%

    5) What are the chances the new phone will be made made TOO much heavier and fatter as it increases in size and lose the sleek and slender appeal of the current one?

    30%

    Obviously these are all guesses, but when you run the numbers, it's hard to argue against waiting. IF one can bear it in this American age of "I want it now!"...
     
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    Got my Z1 Compact yesterday. This thing is like a tiny tank. Hasn't skipped a beat at all and the waterproofing is really fun to play with.
     
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    Isn't the battery a problem if the phone gets stuck?
    Waterproof phone batteries are hard to take out and as Android oftens freezes I might see it as a problem.
    Apart from this I would get a Sony, even though I see no reason to upgrade my Galaxy S2 hardware.
     
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    Android freeze problems are usually due to App bugs.
     
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    i will wait for the g3 to be released and see what the reviews are, but im expecting the new device to have a slightly better performance within hardware - but i don't think it will justify its price compared to g2:

    thing is that my bro/sis have the htc one - really like that due to its speakers and since m8 arrived, thats tempting me - most likely be buying a new phone around august-october, dont need contract as im with giffgaff-sim only deal,
    price will be the biggest factor for me (so g2/ htc one- due to its speakers).

    ive currently got htc sensation - 3-3.5yrs old now - keeps crashing on me 3-5times a day, annoying me
     
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    There are ways of resetting the phone should it freeze.

    And yes, the S2 was a fine phone. Battery was an issue, though.
     
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    Not a phone guy but since I'm planning to upgrade, I'll wait for IPhone 6.
     
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    That may be the way to go. But man, that LG G2 has some appeal too...
     
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    On some of the rankings i've seen, it's top on a few on them. Pretty good going with the S5 and HTC One M8 coming out recently.
     
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    ^^^
    Anyone know the answer?

    G2 is really nice in a lot of ways.

    Hey, here's another question for those of us stuck using 2011 technology: with today's phone, is it possible to divert specific callers or a group of callers straight to voice mail, or block them all together? I get several robo calls/sales calls type things a day from all sorts of weird area codes.

    I might not want to block whole sets of area codes -- if that is even possible -- since some of them may be legitimate calls I might be interested in. But I don't want to hear the phone ring ten times a day with nonsense calls for every one call that's legitimate.

    What are my options for restricting calls these days, if any? (Verizon is my carrier, if it matters.)
     
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    Can only speak about the S3, but you can yeah. Any number you don't want contacting you can be blocked.

    They also have a nice feature for text messages where you can block all unknown numbers, or add a specific number to the spam setting (basically like we've had for years on email).
     
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    The iPhone has that call/text blocking feature.
     
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    Yeah was pretty sure you could, but not using an iPhone i could only really comment on what i'm using.
     
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    But what about blocking calls from specific area codes, and/or diverting them straight to voicemail? Like anything from an 800 or 866 area code, for example. 9 times out 10, those are spam calls, but ever so often one might legitimate, and if so, they can leave a voice mail if they want to. Having this ability is probably even more important than outright blocking in some ways.

    Amazing how these phones can do a million things these days, but often can't seem to do any of the things I myself actually want them to do...
     
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    I use the call blocking feature on the iPhone. It is incredibly easy to use compared to doing it on my daughters Google Galaxy Nexus. I don't really get text messages from anyone so I haven't tried blocking those.

    To my knowledge you can't manage by area code.

    I generally use the approach of putting known contacts in my contacts list with pictures. When they call, their picture shows up and I answer them. If I don't see a picture, then I look at the phone number. If I don't recognize the area code or exchange, then it goes to voicemail or I decline the call - depends on my mood. Is there a button where any calls that aren't in my contact list go to voicemail? I'd actually like that and I'd use it.

    I haven't investigated that yet though.

    A programmatic interface would be nice.
     
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    Regarding turning off all calls, texts, etc. Solution is to put your phone in airplane mode. Basically swipe up from bottom of phone and touch the Airplane icon and you're done.
     
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    I think that Do Not Disturb mode can be used to send calls not on the contact list to voicemail but it turns off other notifications as well which might not be desirable.
     
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    If you have to stop what you're doing and look at a ringing phone, only to see that it's some weird area code and a probable robocall, at which point you decline it to send it to voicemail, well, that sounds like a major drag.

    Can any non-iphoned do this? A 'divert straight to voice mail' feature seems highly desirable.

    Sounds like a workaround that's only slightly improved over going into settings. Far inferior to how you manage these things with other phones on the market, and the old phone I have now.

    Here's another thing the iphone probably can't do: give you a way to increase the text size of the words in the settings and menus. (I realize you can do that nicely within texting). Am I right about this?
     
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    iOS7 has global text size in settings. Some applications have their own individual settings.
     
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    My partner updated to iOS 7.1.1 on Tuesday, as of last night, her phone is now a brick.

    Someone at work is having problems with apps freezing, but has got away without the phone dying on them so far.

    So yeah, be careful when updating TT iPhone users! 7.1.2 shouldn't be that long judging by the number of people not happy with their latest effort.
     
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    I upgraded a few days ago. No problems with it. If I did have a problem, I'd just stop in at the local Apple Store.
     
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    Not sure what you mean. Are you saying you can indeed increase the size of the text in the settings/menus themselves?

    For example, on my phone, I think I can increase the font size and it affects virtuallly every word I see anywhere in the phone, not just in the messaging app or other sections. This makes everything a little bigger and easier to see. Is there something similar with iphone? (I know they have the zoom feature, but that's a whole other thing.)
     
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    Settings -> General -> Text Size.
     
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    All phones have it really. They have features for the hard of hearing and tweaks for the screen if your eye sight isn't the best, so adjusting the text size is pretty much a given with any modern phone.
     
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    Thanks. I'll investigate and try and confirm it could do what I'd like it to in this regard.

    One would hope so, but I could easily see Apple deciding what was the perfect text size and making it unchangeable. To be clear, I'm not talking about the text size within the messaging app, but the text size for all their menus and basically anywhere they have words.
     
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